Unity Taffy Tales [S1 v1.0.35 Redux] [UberPie]

[Count Morado]

That’s insane for supporters to wait 8 months for an update for content they have already played and to presumably to do twice more to catch up to current content, it’s honestly so disgusting for the devs to do and anyone defending it

Yeah, especially when 99% of us on this site are stealing... Er, acquiring... it to play for free (including me). It's disgusting what they are doing and we should demand respect for our lack of support.

The people who are subscribing on subscribestar did so knowing that this is exactly what the developers are working on. Once the developer was kicked off of Patreon, they decided to start work on a Steam release of "Season 1" content (whatever they decided that was... But since they had already said v0.89.8 was "Seasons 1-4", it's obvious it would be a portion of the beginning of the content). After that, they started their subscribestar account and said exactly what their plan was before anyone started subscribing.

No supporter on subscribestar went into this being misled.

 

[Kingkoopa97]

Yeah, especially when 99% of us on this site are stealing... Er, acquiring... it to play for free (including me). It's disgusting what they are doing and we should demand respect for our lack of support.

The people who are subscribing on subscribestar did so knowing that this is exactly what the developers are working on. Once the developer was kicked off of Patreon, they decided to start work on a Steam release of "Season 1" content (whatever they decided that was... But since they had already said v0.89.8 was "Seasons 1-4", it's obvious it would be a portion of the beginning of the content). After that, they started their subscribestar account and said exactly what their plan was before anyone started subscribing.

No supporter on subscribestar went into this being misled.

I support plenty of devs so I’m not just a filthy pirate only partly

Misled no but did the devs ever think this isn’t cool to do to our loyal supporters, did they ever get a chance to vote or have actual input on this huge decision, the devs have remade the game twice already but three times now is just taking the piss but they have been allowed to get away with it, so imo they are 100% taking advantage of their supporters who wanna see the game continue rather than unsubscribe and watch it be abandoned.

also there’s no fucking way you’d actually defend these guys remaking the game again, so it would t suprise me if your getting kick back to be their number defender all these years

 

[Count Morado]

I support plenty of devs so I’m not just a filthy pirate only partly

whatever may be the case for you with other devs, you started this conversation about this title and dev. And in this case we're both taking without compensation.

Misled no but did the devs ever think this isn’t cool to do to our loyal supporters, did they ever get a chance to vote or have actual input on this huge decision, the devs have remade the game twice already but three times now is just taking the piss but they have been allowed to get away with it, so imo they are 100% taking advantage of their supporters who wanna see the game continue rather than unsubscribe and watch it be abandoned.

people knew BEFORE they subscribed what the plan was. They could have "voted" by NOT subscribing. They can make their voices heard by not opening their wallet. They could also share their concern in subscribestar comments, comments in the subscriber-only discord channel and more.

This whole "think of the subscribers" false virtue is a funny card people play here on this site, as if subscribers are mindless children who have no control over their finances and no wherewithal to advocate for themselves.

also there’s no fucking way you’d actually defend these guys remaking the game again, so it would t suprise me if your getting kick back to be their number defender all these years

I'm not defending it. I'm simply stating the facts. Know the difference and don't make ridiculous accusations simply because a person doesn't agree with you. There is no need for histrionics, hyperbole, dramatics or accusations.

1. Dev started using "Seasons" to describe content in July 2023.
2. Dev got kicked off Patreon March 2024
3. Dev said shortly after being kicked that they would start working on a Steam release of Season 1.
4. Dev created Subscribestar March 2024 and told potential subscribers the plan before anyone subscribed.

That's the facts. You may not like it, but nothing was hidden, nothing was falsified.

I don't like that the game is paywalled, at all, honestly. Also I have been critical of Uberpie... But I always laugh when people accuse me of taking payola simply when I state the facts.

 

[Kingkoopa97]

whatever may be the case for you with other devs, you started this conversation about this title and dev. And in this case we're both taking without compensation.
people knew BEFORE they subscribed what the plan was. They could have "voted" by NOT subscribing. They can make their voices heard by not opening their wallet. They could also share their concern in subscribestar comments, comments in the subscriber-only discord channel and more.

This whole "think of the subscribers" false virtue is a funny card people play here on this site, as if subscribers are mindless children who have no control over their finances and no wherewithal to advocate for themselves.

I'm not defending it. I'm simply stating the facts. Know the difference and don't make ridiculous accusations simply because a person doesn't agree with you. There is no need for histrionics, hyperbole, dramatics or accusations.

1. Dev started using "Seasons" to describe content in July 2023.
2. Dev got kicked off Patreon March 2024
3. Dev said shortly after being kicked that they would start working on a Steam release of Season 1.
4. Dev created Subscribestar March 2024 and told potential subscribers the plan before anyone subscribed.

That's the facts. You may not like it, but nothing was hidden, nothing was falsified.

I don't like that the game is paywalled, at all, honestly. Also I have been critical of Uberpie... But I always laugh when people accuse me of taking payola simply when I state the facts.

The whole vote with your wallet is always a funny one, when people love a game and have to choose between getting milked with the hope of keeping it alive they tend to opt for that option. I never once said supporters are children I simply think the devs don't give two didly fucks what their supporters think in the comments or discord, im in the discord, The DEVS never speak only their mouth pieces (mods) I have been in both supporter and non supporter chat rooms too.

You may be stating objective facts but morally they are trash for doing this to supporters and fuck it even fans of the project.

Brother when your defending a cock up your ass whether your paying for it or are getting it for free its still a cock up your ass.

 

[Count Morado]

The whole vote with your wallet is always a funny one, when people love a game and have to choose between getting milked with the hope of keeping it alive they tend to opt for that option. I never once said supporters are children I simply think the devs don't give two didly fucks what their supporters think in the comments or discord, im in the discord, The DEVS never speak only their mouth pieces (mods) I have been in both supporter and non supporter chat rooms too.

You may be stating objective facts but morally they are trash for doing this to supporters and fuck it even fans of the project.

Brother when your defending a cock up your ass whether your paying for it or are getting it for free its still a cock up your ass.

dude, stop with the accusations of defending or getting payola or that I am paying for it. Just have an objective argument without going off the deep end.

I get it free the same way you do. From this site.

The dev - even before thinking about using subscribestar (in fact, they had pushed back against using it in the past , publicly even) - they said they would stop developing further releases and solely focus on a Steam release. This was before making steps to start a subscrivestar.

So, no, there want any danger of it being abandoned. And there were no hints or cries from the dev that they would stop working on the game.

Stick with the facts. Stick with whats known.

Or have an opinion, but make sure it is based on reality and not some illusion in your mind.

I simply think the devs don't give two didly fucks what their supporters think in the comments or discord, im in the discord, The DEVS never speak only their mouth pieces (mods) I have been in both supporter and non supporter chat rooms too.

I agree with you about Uberpie's thoughts about supporters... Unless they are high end $$$ or long term ones.

You have already said you are not and have not supported this game as a subscriber... Now you are saying you have been in Uberpie's subscriber-only discord channel. Which is it?

Or are you conflating Uberpie with your experiences in other developer's discord channels? Because the way you wrote it doesn't imply that.

Bottom line is, what you think happened, did not happen and your accusations about it AND ME are not only suspect, but highly antagonistic, irrational, and illogical.

 

[Kingkoopa97]

dude, stop with the accusations of defending or getting payola or that I am paying for it. Just have an objective argument without going off the deep end.

I get it free the same way you do. From this site.

The dev - even before thinking about using subscribestar (in fact, they had pushed back against using it in the past , publicly even) - they said they would stop developing further releases and solely focus on a Steam release. This was before making steps to start a subscrivestar.

So, no, there want any danger of it being abandoned. And there were no hints or cries from the dev that they would stop working on the game.

Stick with the facts. Stick with whats known.

Or have an opinion, but make sure it is based on reality and not some illusion in your mind.

I agree with you about Uberpie's thoughts about supporters... Unless they are high end $$$ or long term ones.

You have already said you are not and have not supported this game as a subscriber... Now you are saying you have been in Uberpie's subscriber-only discord channel. Which is it?

Or are you conflating Uberpie with your experiences in other developer's discord channels? Because the way you wrote it doesn't imply that.

Bottom line is, what you think happened, did not happen and your accusations about it AND ME are not only suspect, but highly antagonistic, irrational, and illogical.

Where did I state I was a never a supporter? I have supported this game on releases, I refuse to support long term for how they treat their loyal supporters with a shit sandwich (remakes).

The devs are taking people for a ride in circles over and over. regardless of their reasoning it all comes down to their own greed. We are fucked when the steam release happens I bet you that now. They are gonna make boat loads of money and not need to rush or feel pressure to continue the games content, we are in for a 3 year cycle to remake the whole game for steam releases which benefits NODBODY but them.

I was only half joking about you taking kickback from them but if I'm not the first to say it to you, maybe take a look in the mirror or this case PC monitor ask yourself why you carry so much water for these guys when they are screwing everyone supporter and pirate alike over time and time again.

That's enough for me though enjoy fighting for them and try not to drown

 

[BlaBlaCat]

Where did I state I was a never a supporter? I have supported this game on releases, I refuse to support long term for how they treat their loyal supporters with a shit sandwich (remakes).

The devs are taking people for a ride in circles over and over. regardless of their reasoning it all comes down to their own greed. We are fucked when the steam release happens I bet you that now. They are gonna make boat loads of money and not need to rush or feel pressure to continue the games content, we are in for a 3 year cycle to remake the whole game for steam releases which benefits NODBODY but them.

I was only half joking about you taking kickback from them but if I'm not the first to say it to you, maybe take a look in the mirror or this case PC monitor ask yourself why you carry so much water for these guys when they are screwing everyone supporter and pirate alike over time and time again.

That's enough for me though enjoy fighting for them and try not to drown

Dude, he’s criticized Uber just as much as he’s said anything good about him. And as far as I understand, this applies to other projects too. So yeah, you definitely can't accuse him of being biased.
You’ve been on the forum for a while (definitely longer than me) , but your memory seems really short. We’ve had plenty of heated debates here, you know (most of which were rightfully deleted).

 

[TheLonliestFapper]

Just to weigh on this argument. Telling people not to complain about games just because they don’t pay makes no sense even pirates invest time and effort into the game and wanna see it do better. People who pirate movies don’t pay but to a customer their 5* or 1* review matters all the same. I supported Uber I enjoyed it but it’s not like me paying meant I paid my dues so now I’m allowed to complain and other can’t because by that logic pirates shouldn’t praise games they like either after all they didn’t pay right? Regardless of if you’re a fan or a hater these forums are for opinions and discussion like this is quite literally the place to complain lol I don’t care for it much either but it’s valid all the same. I will say for as shit as Uber has been with his decisions I do like that if you’re a previous customer you can potentially get a key too. As a dev I don’t even think Ubers greedy I think he’s just gotten lazy (He used to be solid asf with the updates), and said laziness has resulted in me waiting 5+!? Years for my goddamn Tiffany sex scene and I’m probably going to have to wait minimum 2 more years because no shot he’s dropping it season 1.

 

[BobbyB1981]

whatever may be the case for you with other devs, you started this conversation about this title and dev. And in this case we're both taking without compensation.
people knew BEFORE they subscribed what the plan was. They could have "voted" by NOT subscribing. They can make their voices heard by not opening their wallet. They could also share their concern in subscribestar comments, comments in the subscriber-only discord channel and more.

This whole "think of the subscribers" false virtue is a funny card people play here on this site, as if subscribers are mindless children who have no control over their finances and no wherewithal to advocate for themselves.

I'm not defending it. I'm simply stating the facts. Know the difference and don't make ridiculous accusations simply because a person doesn't agree with you. There is no need for histrionics, hyperbole, dramatics or accusations.

1. Dev started using "Seasons" to describe content in July 2023.
2. Dev got kicked off Patreon March 2024
3. Dev said shortly after being kicked that they would start working on a Steam release of Season 1.
4. Dev created Subscribestar March 2024 and told potential subscribers the plan before anyone subscribed.

That's the facts. You may not like it, but nothing was hidden, nothing was falsified.

I don't like that the game is paywalled, at all, honestly. Also I have been critical of Uberpie... But I always laugh when people accuse me of taking payola simply when I state the facts.

It's true, they said that they were gonna work on a steam release since March 2024



The idea itself is the questionable one though. This is their subscribe star account at the moment (2025-17-01)






I don't know what's the fee for subscribestar, but money wise without taking into account the fees, they are making, 27k approx, they're not so far from their patron support ( I think they're even getting more money now), obviously they must had started with less and the support was increasing more during the months after their post.

What's really weird about the steam release, is the projection they have for sales, they've been working by 8 months and they've been using their subscribestar money to finance that development, suppose 80k (that could be way more), selling less than thousands of units would be unnaceptable (let's not forget steam's 30% cut)

How many units and at what price they will have to sell to pay for development cost and cover the money they no longer get from patreon?

At the end that's the problem of his subscribers

 

[BlaBlaCat]

It's true, they said that they were gonna work on a steam release since March 2024

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The idea itself is the questionable one though. This is their subscribe star account at the moment (2025-17-01)



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I don't know what's the fee for subscribestar, but money wise without taking into account the fees, they are making, 27k approx, they're not so far from their patron support ( I think they're even getting more money now), obviously they must had started with less and the support was increasing more during the months after their post.

What's really weird about the steam release, is the projection they have for sales, they've been working by 8 months and they've been using their subscribestar money to finance that development, suppose 80k (that could be way more), selling less than thousands of units would be unnaceptable (let's not forget steam's 30% cut)

How many units and at what price they will have to sell to pay for development cost and cover the money they no longer get from patreon?

At the end that's the problem of his subscribers

Patreon charges VAT (around 30%, depending on the country) directly to subscribers, and the creator receives the full pledged amount minus Patreon’s own fees, payment processing fees, etc.

On SubscribeStar, the platform's fee is taken from the payment itself, which is also around 30%. Additionally, some subscribers cancel their subscriptions at the end of the payment cycle. On top of that, there are the same platform and withdrawal fees to consider. Plus, their subscriber count on SubscribeStar is half of what they had on Patreon.

So, their gross income on SubscribeStar is no more than $17k–$19k, and it took them a year to reach that number, meaning they earned significantly less throughout the year. And this is before considering withdrawal fees and taxes. This amount is more than twice as low as what they could have been making on Patreon.

So yes, with all the complaints, unpredictable support, and Patreon’s strict rules, it’s a very risky business. That’s why there are very few truly professional, non-hobbyist projects on these platforms.

 

[BobbyB1981]

Patreon charges VAT (around 30%, depending on the country) directly to subscribers, and the creator receives the full pledged amount minus Patreon’s own fees, payment processing fees, etc.

On SubscribeStar, the platform's fee is taken from the payment itself, which is also around 30%. Additionally, some subscribers cancel their subscriptions at the end of the payment cycle. On top of that, there are the same platform and withdrawal fees to consider. Plus, their subscriber count on SubscribeStar is half of what they had on Patreon.

So, their gross income on SubscribeStar is no more than $17k–$19k, and it took them a year to reach that number, meaning they earned significantly less throughout the year. And this is before considering withdrawal fees and taxes. This amount is more than twice as low as what they could have been making on Patreon.

So yes, with all the complaints, unpredictable support, and Patreon’s strict rules, it’s a very risky business. That’s why there are very few truly professional, non-hobbyist projects on these platforms.

If this page can be believed, indeed at the very least they lost their half their earnings( supposing their 27k minus 8k-10k on deductions)



Supposing they've been loosing 17k per month, they've already lost 136k and they would need tens of thousands of sales to only cover that without considering how much they will need to earn to keep going on, supposing a year more it would be another 200k, so with a really buggy math they would need to sell 480k (because steams takes the 30%) to recover what they lost on this 8 months and to keep the old budget for another year, tbh I don't see that happening

 

[chunkas]

Well, well, well. It's been a while since I've looked into this topic. It even became interesting somehow, and what is the reason that the lazy milker Uber was thrown out of Patreon?
Heh, heh, heh, ... The launch of season 1 will begin on January 28. Seasons 1-5, that's what they call it now. Cleverly thought out. When an initially great game turns into indescribable shit, launch endless iterations of revamps. Fortunately, you don't really need to do anything, artificial intelligence will ruin everything that is possible without you.
So, Uber's dairy milking has moved to Steam. Well, let's see.

 

[fnnn90]

Does anyone know if any Daz model resembles Stacy?

 

[BlaBlaCat]

Well, well, well. It's been a while since I've looked into this topic. It even became interesting somehow, and what is the reason that the lazy milker Uber was thrown out of Patreon?
Heh, heh, heh, ... The launch of season 1 will begin on January 28. Seasons 1-5, that's what they call it now. Cleverly thought out. When an initially great game turns into indescribable shit, launch endless iterations of revamps. Fortunately, you don't really need to do anything, artificial intelligence will ruin everything that is possible without you.
So, Uber's dairy milking has moved to Steam. Well, let's see.

Oh, look, another cartoonish, bitter, envious clown celebrating the ban of one of the largest and most hardworking projects due to random censorship or complaints from the offended. The usual mantras about "milking" and "lazy" - Dude, considering the size of their team and how much content they’ve churned out over the years, your sorry little bellybutton wouldn’t even survive the workload. The stats and reality prove it.

Zero understanding of AI, digital art, the industry, or anything remotely related. But oh boy, so much bile and hatred - and look, they even know the word “milkers,” lol. Every clown like this crumbles when faced with simple examples of AI work. Let’s give it a shot with you too: show me 18+ art project in the industry that’s better or on the same level as current Uber’s. And I mean fully frames, plots, scenes, complex rich backgrounds , characters, angles, and so on. No pixel filters, no shortcuts. Not just random lora art made with prompts.

Well? Brave, bitter youth? I already know the answer.

 

[succhiale]

Oh, someone brought our clown's stinky ass to his nose, and now he's offended.

This is infinitely more fair and reasonable than celebrating when someone’s years-long work gets shut down because of censorship or snitching. The boy got upset counting other people’s money, found it wasn’t enough for him, and now he’s happy the store burned down. Who’s got a logic problem, my little donut?

And this - this is the only useful and honest thing from your otherwise ridiculous reply to my fairly simple question. You could’ve spared the forum from the sight of your steaming butt and just said, “No.” But I get it - you’re so hurt. Keep enduring, my sweet.

And here you go again, shitting yourself. But for people like you, that’s standard behavior. Uber + a programmer + writer + extra writers + an animator + a project manager. That’s 6 people.

Spotted: a clown rimjobber. Honestly, that’s pretty funny. Does your fake nose get in the way while you’re at it?

And here you go again, filling up your colorful pants. Name a 2D (+ai) project from the adult industry with the same or better quality and amount of content. Go ahead, daddy’s waiting.

Oh, and as expected, the pissed-off clown still hasn’t answered my question.

This part of the forum will probably get deleted, but your colorful little circus pants will take a while to clean. Honk honk.

You won’t have anything coherent to say to this either, but at least you’ll get a good cry out of it.) Don’t celebrate undeserved bans from censorship or snitching. We’re not here playing farming games. Live and let others... you know, enjoy themselves.

I'm generally shocked that it occurred to someone to write that there isn't enough content in Taffy Tales. Okay, if he wrote that not all characters get attention, that's true, but to write that there isn't enough content.... This is a gimmick. This is probably the game with the most fetishes I've seen, and one of the biggest games overall. However, it's important to note that there's a healthy amount of content here - you get a serving of spicy content in almost every scene or dialog. I recently tried Warlock and Boobs - also a hefty game. How I got tired of running around the map and constantly Alt+Tab to read the walkthrough. And in Taffy everything is clear and interactive. And yes - to be happy that someone's work was just removed from Patreon (whether Uber is telling the truth that they removed it without explanation or not, it's the fact itself that matters) - it's not very pretty. And yes - I too am waiting for an example of this scale of game using AI art at Uber's level (especially now - Uber has really stepped up in many aspects. He still has room to grow, of course, and I personally would like to see more attention to detail, but the reworked art in this post is VERY hard to top even Uber itself. It combines the best of Uber's style and neural network detailing)

 

[BobbyB1981]

Oh, look, another cartoonish, bitter, envious clown celebrating the ban of one of the largest and most hardworking projects due to random censorship or complaints from the offended. The usual mantras about "milking" and "lazy" - Dude, considering the size of their team and how much content they’ve churned out over the years, your sorry little bellybutton wouldn’t even survive the workload. The stats and reality prove it.

Zero understanding of AI, digital art, the industry, or anything remotely related. But oh boy, so much bile and hatred - and look, they even know the word “milkers,” lol. Every clown like this crumbles when faced with simple examples of AI work. Let’s give it a shot with you too: show me 18+ art project in the industry that’s better or on the same level as current Uber’s. And I mean fully frames, plots, scenes, complex rich backgrounds , characters, angles, and so on. No pixel filters, no shortcuts. Not just random lora art made with prompts.

Well? Brave, bitter youth? I already know the answer.

So, he should be praised for using a tool?, I don't see other devs getting any praise for using game engines, blender, etc.

For me Uber has this problems:

1. He uses a tool to speed up the art, yet the updates still take 6-8 months
2. It's interesting how he's using the tool, the problem is he included a lot of AI art in the builds when the art was not decent and without correcting mistakes (Chantelle 3 anuses, the red cult members that stand up like a sore thumb, Peter's face that looked really weird)

 

[BlaBlaCat]

So, he should be praised for using a tool?, I don't see other devs getting any praise for using game engines, blender, etc.

For me Uber has this problems:

1. He uses a tool to speed up the art, yet the updates still take 6-8 months
2. It's interesting how he's using the tool, the problem is he included a lot of AI art in the builds when the art was not decent and without correcting mistakes (Chantelle 3 anuses, the red cult members that stand up like a sore thumb, Peter's face that looked really weird)

Yes, he has problems. But I was talking about comparisons with other projects not because this one deserves praise just for using AI, but because AI today, AI six months ago, and AI last spring are entirely different beasts. And you’re recalling the time when he was trying to do all this on the clunky, barely usable SD from back then.
AI is a very raw but incredibly effective technology with a future ahead of it. In most aspects of art, it's groundbreaking, but in some areas, it breaks ass at such speeds that it spawns new problems. I could talk about this for hours, but it's all off-topic.

 

[succhiale]

So, he should be praised for using a tool?, I don't see other devs getting any praise for using game engines, blender, etc.

For me Uber has this problems:

1. He uses a tool to speed up the art, yet the updates still take 6-8 months
2. It's interesting how he's using the tool, the problem is he included a lot of AI art in the builds when the art was not decent and without correcting mistakes (Chantelle 3 anuses, the red cult members that stand up like a sore thumb, Peter's face that looked really weird)

You wrote a very interesting post - don't praise him for his use of AI. But here's the problem - you are very right - AI is now the same Blender for 3D animators. It used to be that those who made animations in Blender were not very well liked (I didn't catch those times myself, but I've been told about it). Even now, if you go to another famous site and watch videos made through Blender - there will be a lot of amateur and not particularly high-quality animations. And, in fact, this applies not only to Blender - MMD, Koikatsu, even DAZ - in each set of work in this software you can find a lot of bad examples. And up to a certain point, each of these software didn't have some “Wow” animators/model creators. Even now you can find works where, conventionally, a penis goes through the stomach in a complex pose, clothes go through arms and legs, unnatural movements and so on. But what's different is that there are people who have spent a huge amount of time developing themselves in this craft. And I will never tire of citing NyL as an example - it's the devil in the flesh. How good his animations are in Blender can only be admired (and envied by some). It's not about taste, it's about quality.
It's the same with Uber - a lot of people blame AI for the problems, but that's not entirely true. The fact that Chantelle had 3 anuses is not so much AI's problem as Uber's. He could have gone into photoshop (and now there's even a plugin that embeds photoshop into the Automatic environment) and just plastered two extra anuses in 5-10 seconds with the simplest stamp tool, but he didn't. Yes, the fact that the neural network initially generated 3 anuses is not the norm either, but that's not Uber's problem, it's the problem of those who created that neural network. And as BlaBlaCat already wrote - neural networks are now at a level that could only be dreamed of last spring (not to mention when 0.95.7 was released). Sorry for the huge amount of information, I just like that finally people are starting to realize that AI is not an evil entity that attacked Uber and made him generate art in it, but the same tool as Blender, Koikatsu, Photoshop, etc. and all mistakes are the mistakes of the person who used this software and under-tracked. I agree about the deadlines - Uber said the deadlines would be shorter, but they haven't changed or even increased. This is not the norm and it should not be like this. I also agree about the faces - Uber's problem even at the moment is that he uses different checkpoints, which makes it look like the same character, but the sub-styles are different. I'll attach a hastily made picture. You can especially see it in the MC and Becca comparisons.

 

[Readerf2b]

You wrote a very interesting post - don't praise him for his use of AI. But here's the problem - you are very right - AI is now the same Blender for 3D animators. It used to be that those who made animations in Blender were not very well liked (I didn't catch those times myself, but I've been told about it). Even now, if you go to another famous site and watch videos made through Blender - there will be a lot of amateur and not particularly high-quality animations. And, in fact, this applies not only to Blender - MMD, Koikatsu, even DAZ - in each set of work in this software you can find a lot of bad examples. And up to a certain point, each of these software didn't have some “Wow” animators/model creators. Even now you can find works where, conventionally, a penis goes through the stomach in a complex pose, clothes go through arms and legs, unnatural movements and so on. But what's different is that there are people who have spent a huge amount of time developing themselves in this craft. And I will never tire of citing NyL as an example - it's the devil in the flesh. How good his animations are in Blender can only be admired (and envied by some). It's not about taste, it's about quality.
It's the same with Uber - a lot of people blame AI for the problems, but that's not entirely true. The fact that Chantelle had 3 anuses is not so much AI's problem as Uber's. He could have gone into photoshop (and now there's even a plugin that embeds photoshop into the Automatic environment) and just plastered two extra anuses in 5-10 seconds with the simplest stamp tool, but he didn't. Yes, the fact that the neural network initially generated 3 anuses is not the norm either, but that's not Uber's problem, it's the problem of those who created that neural network. And as BlaBlaCat already wrote - neural networks are now at a level that could only be dreamed of last spring (not to mention when 0.95.7 was released). Sorry for the huge amount of information, I just like that finally people are starting to realize that AI is not an evil entity that attacked Uber and made him generate art in it, but the same tool as Blender, Koikatsu, Photoshop, etc. and all mistakes are the mistakes of the person who used this software and under-tracked. I agree about the deadlines - Uber said the deadlines would be shorter, but they haven't changed or even increased. This is not the norm and it should not be like this. I also agree about the faces - Uber's problem even at the moment is that he uses different checkpoints, which makes it look like the same character, but the sub-styles are different. I'll attach a hastily made picture. You can especially see it in the MC and Becca comparisons.

Its a big post explaining how for some reason instruments like blender is equal to AI shit generators.
AI is an mad monkey with a pen who is bruteforcing ton of garbage and waiting human to pick cherries out of it.
Sadly those cherries are still covered in shit and Uberpie is to busy to at least wash them.

 

[BobbyB1981]

You wrote a very interesting post - don't praise him for his use of AI. But here's the problem - you are very right - AI is now the same Blender for 3D animators. It used to be that those who made animations in Blender were not very well liked (I didn't catch those times myself, but I've been told about it). Even now, if you go to another famous site and watch videos made through Blender - there will be a lot of amateur and not particularly high-quality animations. And, in fact, this applies not only to Blender - MMD, Koikatsu, even DAZ - in each set of work in this software you can find a lot of bad examples. And up to a certain point, each of these software didn't have some “Wow” animators/model creators. Even now you can find works where, conventionally, a penis goes through the stomach in a complex pose, clothes go through arms and legs, unnatural movements and so on. But what's different is that there are people who have spent a huge amount of time developing themselves in this craft. And I will never tire of citing NyL as an example - it's the devil in the flesh. How good his animations are in Blender can only be admired (and envied by some). It's not about taste, it's about quality.
It's the same with Uber - a lot of people blame AI for the problems, but that's not entirely true. The fact that Chantelle had 3 anuses is not so much AI's problem as Uber's. He could have gone into photoshop (and now there's even a plugin that embeds photoshop into the Automatic environment) and just plastered two extra anuses in 5-10 seconds with the simplest stamp tool, but he didn't. Yes, the fact that the neural network initially generated 3 anuses is not the norm either, but that's not Uber's problem, it's the problem of those who created that neural network. And as BlaBlaCat already wrote - neural networks are now at a level that could only be dreamed of last spring (not to mention when 0.95.7 was released). Sorry for the huge amount of information, I just like that finally people are starting to realize that AI is not an evil entity that attacked Uber and made him generate art in it, but the same tool as Blender, Koikatsu, Photoshop, etc. and all mistakes are the mistakes of the person who used this software and under-tracked. I agree about the deadlines - Uber said the deadlines would be shorter, but they haven't changed or even increased. This is not the norm and it should not be like this. I also agree about the faces - Uber's problem even at the moment is that he uses different checkpoints, which makes it look like the same character, but the sub-styles are different. I'll attach a hastily made picture. You can especially see it in the MC and Becca comparisons.

I agree, AI ( I think machine learning is the most adecuate name) is not the problem and no tool is perfect so there would be times when they would need corrections, the problem is Uber did not do any favors to himself including the AI art in his builds when he didn't have more practice using it.

I think most of the bias against it is for his builds of 2-3 years ago, he didn't bother making any quality control and for a game making 20k+ per month, it was really dissapointing to say the least