BlaBlaCat

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It's true, they said that they were gonna work on a steam release since March 2024

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The idea itself is the questionable one though. This is their subscribe star account at the moment (2025-17-01)



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I don't know what's the fee for subscribestar, but money wise without taking into account the fees, they are making, 27k approx, they're not so far from their patron support ( I think they're even getting more money now), obviously they must had started with less and the support was increasing more during the months after their post.

What's really weird about the steam release, is the projection they have for sales, they've been working by 8 months and they've been using their subscribestar money to finance that development, suppose 80k (that could be way more), selling less than thousands of units would be unnaceptable (let's not forget steam's 30% cut)

How many units and at what price they will have to sell to pay for development cost and cover the money they no longer get from patreon?

At the end that's the problem of his subscribers
Patreon charges VAT (around 30%, depending on the country) directly to subscribers, and the creator receives the full pledged amount minus Patreon’s own fees, payment processing fees, etc.

On SubscribeStar, the platform's fee is taken from the payment itself, which is also around 30%. Additionally, some subscribers cancel their subscriptions at the end of the payment cycle. On top of that, there are the same platform and withdrawal fees to consider. Plus, their subscriber count on SubscribeStar is half of what they had on Patreon.

So, their gross income on SubscribeStar is no more than $17k–$19k, and it took them a year to reach that number, meaning they earned significantly less throughout the year. And this is before considering withdrawal fees and taxes. This amount is more than twice as low as what they could have been making on Patreon.

So yes, with all the complaints, unpredictable support, and Patreon’s strict rules, it’s a very risky business. That’s why there are very few truly professional, non-hobbyist projects on these platforms.
 

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Patreon charges VAT (around 30%, depending on the country) directly to subscribers, and the creator receives the full pledged amount minus Patreon’s own fees, payment processing fees, etc.

On SubscribeStar, the platform's fee is taken from the payment itself, which is also around 30%. Additionally, some subscribers cancel their subscriptions at the end of the payment cycle. On top of that, there are the same platform and withdrawal fees to consider. Plus, their subscriber count on SubscribeStar is half of what they had on Patreon.

So, their gross income on SubscribeStar is no more than $17k–$19k, and it took them a year to reach that number, meaning they earned significantly less throughout the year. And this is before considering withdrawal fees and taxes. This amount is more than twice as low as what they could have been making on Patreon.

So yes, with all the complaints, unpredictable support, and Patreon’s strict rules, it’s a very risky business. That’s why there are very few truly professional, non-hobbyist projects on these platforms.
If this page can be believed, indeed at the very least they lost their half their earnings( supposing their 27k minus 8k-10k on deductions)

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Supposing they've been loosing 17k per month, they've already lost 136k and they would need tens of thousands of sales to only cover that without considering how much they will need to earn to keep going on, supposing a year more it would be another 200k, so with a really buggy math they would need to sell 480k (because steams takes the 30%) to recover what they lost on this 8 months and to keep the old budget for another year, tbh I don't see that happening
 
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Well, well, well. It's been a while since I've looked into this topic. It even became interesting somehow, and what is the reason that the lazy milker Uber was thrown out of Patreon?
Heh, heh, heh, ... The launch of season 1 will begin on January 28. Seasons 1-5, that's what they call it now. Cleverly thought out. When an initially great game turns into indescribable shit, launch endless iterations of revamps. Fortunately, you don't really need to do anything, artificial intelligence will ruin everything that is possible without you.
So, Uber's dairy milking has moved to Steam. Well, let's see.
 

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Well, well, well. It's been a while since I've looked into this topic. It even became interesting somehow, and what is the reason that the lazy milker Uber was thrown out of Patreon?
Heh, heh, heh, ... The launch of season 1 will begin on January 28. Seasons 1-5, that's what they call it now. Cleverly thought out. When an initially great game turns into indescribable shit, launch endless iterations of revamps. Fortunately, you don't really need to do anything, artificial intelligence will ruin everything that is possible without you.
So, Uber's dairy milking has moved to Steam. Well, let's see.
Oh, look, another cartoonish, bitter, envious clown celebrating the ban of one of the largest and most hardworking projects due to random censorship or complaints from the offended. The usual mantras about "milking" and "lazy" - Dude, considering the size of their team and how much content they’ve churned out over the years, your sorry little bellybutton wouldn’t even survive the workload. The stats and reality prove it.

Zero understanding of AI, digital art, the industry, or anything remotely related. But oh boy, so much bile and hatred - and look, they even know the word “milkers,” lol. Every clown like this crumbles when faced with simple examples of AI work. Let’s give it a shot with you too: show me 18+ art project in the industry that’s better or on the same level as current Uber’s. And I mean fully frames, plots, scenes, complex rich backgrounds , characters, angles, and so on. No pixel filters, no shortcuts. Not just random lora art made with prompts.

Well? Brave, bitter youth? I already know the answer.
 
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succhiale

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Oh, someone brought our clown's stinky ass to his nose, and now he's offended.

This is infinitely more fair and reasonable than celebrating when someone’s years-long work gets shut down because of censorship or snitching. The boy got upset counting other people’s money, found it wasn’t enough for him, and now he’s happy the store burned down. Who’s got a logic problem, my little donut?

And this - this is the only useful and honest thing from your otherwise ridiculous reply to my fairly simple question. You could’ve spared the forum from the sight of your steaming butt and just said, “No.” But I get it - you’re so hurt. Keep enduring, my sweet.

And here you go again, shitting yourself. But for people like you, that’s standard behavior. Uber + a programmer + writer + extra writers + an animator + a project manager. That’s 6 people.

Spotted: a clown rimjobber. Honestly, that’s pretty funny. Does your fake nose get in the way while you’re at it?

And here you go again, filling up your colorful pants. Name a 2D (+ai) project from the adult industry with the same or better quality and amount of content. Go ahead, daddy’s waiting.

Oh, and as expected, the pissed-off clown still hasn’t answered my question.

This part of the forum will probably get deleted, but your colorful little circus pants will take a while to clean. Honk honk.

You won’t have anything coherent to say to this either, but at least you’ll get a good cry out of it.) Don’t celebrate undeserved bans from censorship or snitching. We’re not here playing farming games. Live and let others... you know, enjoy themselves.
I'm generally shocked that it occurred to someone to write that there isn't enough content in Taffy Tales. Okay, if he wrote that not all characters get attention, that's true, but to write that there isn't enough content.... This is a gimmick. This is probably the game with the most fetishes I've seen, and one of the biggest games overall. However, it's important to note that there's a healthy amount of content here - you get a serving of spicy content in almost every scene or dialog. I recently tried Warlock and Boobs - also a hefty game. How I got tired of running around the map and constantly Alt+Tab to read the walkthrough. And in Taffy everything is clear and interactive. And yes - to be happy that someone's work was just removed from Patreon (whether Uber is telling the truth that they removed it without explanation or not, it's the fact itself that matters) - it's not very pretty. And yes - I too am waiting for an example of this scale of game using AI art at Uber's level (especially now - Uber has really stepped up in many aspects. He still has room to grow, of course, and I personally would like to see more attention to detail, but the reworked art in this post is VERY hard to top even Uber itself. It combines the best of Uber's style and neural network detailing)
 

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Oh, look, another cartoonish, bitter, envious clown celebrating the ban of one of the largest and most hardworking projects due to random censorship or complaints from the offended. The usual mantras about "milking" and "lazy" - Dude, considering the size of their team and how much content they’ve churned out over the years, your sorry little bellybutton wouldn’t even survive the workload. The stats and reality prove it.

Zero understanding of AI, digital art, the industry, or anything remotely related. But oh boy, so much bile and hatred - and look, they even know the word “milkers,” lol. Every clown like this crumbles when faced with simple examples of AI work. Let’s give it a shot with you too: show me 18+ art project in the industry that’s better or on the same level as current Uber’s. And I mean fully frames, plots, scenes, complex rich backgrounds , characters, angles, and so on. No pixel filters, no shortcuts. Not just random lora art made with prompts.

Well? Brave, bitter youth? I already know the answer.
So, he should be praised for using a tool?, I don't see other devs getting any praise for using game engines, blender, etc.

For me Uber has this problems:

1. He uses a tool to speed up the art, yet the updates still take 6-8 months
2. It's interesting how he's using the tool, the problem is he included a lot of AI art in the builds when the art was not decent and without correcting mistakes (Chantelle 3 anuses, the red cult members that stand up like a sore thumb, Peter's face that looked really weird)
 

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So, he should be praised for using a tool?, I don't see other devs getting any praise for using game engines, blender, etc.

For me Uber has this problems:

1. He uses a tool to speed up the art, yet the updates still take 6-8 months
2. It's interesting how he's using the tool, the problem is he included a lot of AI art in the builds when the art was not decent and without correcting mistakes (Chantelle 3 anuses, the red cult members that stand up like a sore thumb, Peter's face that looked really weird)
Yes, he has problems. But I was talking about comparisons with other projects not because this one deserves praise just for using AI, but because AI today, AI six months ago, and AI last spring are entirely different beasts. And you’re recalling the time when he was trying to do all this on the clunky, barely usable SD from back then.
AI is a very raw but incredibly effective technology with a future ahead of it. In most aspects of art, it's groundbreaking, but in some areas, it breaks ass at such speeds that it spawns new problems. I could talk about this for hours, but it's all off-topic.
 
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So, he should be praised for using a tool?, I don't see other devs getting any praise for using game engines, blender, etc.

For me Uber has this problems:

1. He uses a tool to speed up the art, yet the updates still take 6-8 months
2. It's interesting how he's using the tool, the problem is he included a lot of AI art in the builds when the art was not decent and without correcting mistakes (Chantelle 3 anuses, the red cult members that stand up like a sore thumb, Peter's face that looked really weird)

You wrote a very interesting post - don't praise him for his use of AI. But here's the problem - you are very right - AI is now the same Blender for 3D animators. It used to be that those who made animations in Blender were not very well liked (I didn't catch those times myself, but I've been told about it). Even now, if you go to another famous site and watch videos made through Blender - there will be a lot of amateur and not particularly high-quality animations. And, in fact, this applies not only to Blender - MMD, Koikatsu, even DAZ - in each set of work in this software you can find a lot of bad examples. And up to a certain point, each of these software didn't have some “Wow” animators/model creators. Even now you can find works where, conventionally, a penis goes through the stomach in a complex pose, clothes go through arms and legs, unnatural movements and so on. But what's different is that there are people who have spent a huge amount of time developing themselves in this craft. And I will never tire of citing NyL as an example - it's the devil in the flesh. How good his animations are in Blender can only be admired (and envied by some). It's not about taste, it's about quality.
It's the same with Uber - a lot of people blame AI for the problems, but that's not entirely true. The fact that Chantelle had 3 anuses is not so much AI's problem as Uber's. He could have gone into photoshop (and now there's even a plugin that embeds photoshop into the Automatic environment) and just plastered two extra anuses in 5-10 seconds with the simplest stamp tool, but he didn't. Yes, the fact that the neural network initially generated 3 anuses is not the norm either, but that's not Uber's problem, it's the problem of those who created that neural network. And as BlaBlaCat already wrote - neural networks are now at a level that could only be dreamed of last spring (not to mention when 0.95.7 was released). Sorry for the huge amount of information, I just like that finally people are starting to realize that AI is not an evil entity that attacked Uber and made him generate art in it, but the same tool as Blender, Koikatsu, Photoshop, etc. and all mistakes are the mistakes of the person who used this software and under-tracked. I agree about the deadlines - Uber said the deadlines would be shorter, but they haven't changed or even increased. This is not the norm and it should not be like this. I also agree about the faces - Uber's problem even at the moment is that he uses different checkpoints, which makes it look like the same character, but the sub-styles are different. I'll attach a hastily made picture. You can especially see it in the MC and Becca comparisons.
 

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You wrote a very interesting post - don't praise him for his use of AI. But here's the problem - you are very right - AI is now the same Blender for 3D animators. It used to be that those who made animations in Blender were not very well liked (I didn't catch those times myself, but I've been told about it). Even now, if you go to another famous site and watch videos made through Blender - there will be a lot of amateur and not particularly high-quality animations. And, in fact, this applies not only to Blender - MMD, Koikatsu, even DAZ - in each set of work in this software you can find a lot of bad examples. And up to a certain point, each of these software didn't have some “Wow” animators/model creators. Even now you can find works where, conventionally, a penis goes through the stomach in a complex pose, clothes go through arms and legs, unnatural movements and so on. But what's different is that there are people who have spent a huge amount of time developing themselves in this craft. And I will never tire of citing NyL as an example - it's the devil in the flesh. How good his animations are in Blender can only be admired (and envied by some). It's not about taste, it's about quality.
It's the same with Uber - a lot of people blame AI for the problems, but that's not entirely true. The fact that Chantelle had 3 anuses is not so much AI's problem as Uber's. He could have gone into photoshop (and now there's even a plugin that embeds photoshop into the Automatic environment) and just plastered two extra anuses in 5-10 seconds with the simplest stamp tool, but he didn't. Yes, the fact that the neural network initially generated 3 anuses is not the norm either, but that's not Uber's problem, it's the problem of those who created that neural network. And as BlaBlaCat already wrote - neural networks are now at a level that could only be dreamed of last spring (not to mention when 0.95.7 was released). Sorry for the huge amount of information, I just like that finally people are starting to realize that AI is not an evil entity that attacked Uber and made him generate art in it, but the same tool as Blender, Koikatsu, Photoshop, etc. and all mistakes are the mistakes of the person who used this software and under-tracked. I agree about the deadlines - Uber said the deadlines would be shorter, but they haven't changed or even increased. This is not the norm and it should not be like this. I also agree about the faces - Uber's problem even at the moment is that he uses different checkpoints, which makes it look like the same character, but the sub-styles are different. I'll attach a hastily made picture. You can especially see it in the MC and Becca comparisons.
Its a big post explaining how for some reason instruments like blender is equal to AI shit generators.
AI is an mad monkey with a pen who is bruteforcing ton of garbage and waiting human to pick cherries out of it.
Sadly those cherries are still covered in shit and Uberpie is to busy to at least wash them.
 

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You wrote a very interesting post - don't praise him for his use of AI. But here's the problem - you are very right - AI is now the same Blender for 3D animators. It used to be that those who made animations in Blender were not very well liked (I didn't catch those times myself, but I've been told about it). Even now, if you go to another famous site and watch videos made through Blender - there will be a lot of amateur and not particularly high-quality animations. And, in fact, this applies not only to Blender - MMD, Koikatsu, even DAZ - in each set of work in this software you can find a lot of bad examples. And up to a certain point, each of these software didn't have some “Wow” animators/model creators. Even now you can find works where, conventionally, a penis goes through the stomach in a complex pose, clothes go through arms and legs, unnatural movements and so on. But what's different is that there are people who have spent a huge amount of time developing themselves in this craft. And I will never tire of citing NyL as an example - it's the devil in the flesh. How good his animations are in Blender can only be admired (and envied by some). It's not about taste, it's about quality.
It's the same with Uber - a lot of people blame AI for the problems, but that's not entirely true. The fact that Chantelle had 3 anuses is not so much AI's problem as Uber's. He could have gone into photoshop (and now there's even a plugin that embeds photoshop into the Automatic environment) and just plastered two extra anuses in 5-10 seconds with the simplest stamp tool, but he didn't. Yes, the fact that the neural network initially generated 3 anuses is not the norm either, but that's not Uber's problem, it's the problem of those who created that neural network. And as BlaBlaCat already wrote - neural networks are now at a level that could only be dreamed of last spring (not to mention when 0.95.7 was released). Sorry for the huge amount of information, I just like that finally people are starting to realize that AI is not an evil entity that attacked Uber and made him generate art in it, but the same tool as Blender, Koikatsu, Photoshop, etc. and all mistakes are the mistakes of the person who used this software and under-tracked. I agree about the deadlines - Uber said the deadlines would be shorter, but they haven't changed or even increased. This is not the norm and it should not be like this. I also agree about the faces - Uber's problem even at the moment is that he uses different checkpoints, which makes it look like the same character, but the sub-styles are different. I'll attach a hastily made picture. You can especially see it in the MC and Becca comparisons.
I agree, AI ( I think machine learning is the most adecuate name) is not the problem and no tool is perfect so there would be times when they would need corrections, the problem is Uber did not do any favors to himself including the AI art in his builds when he didn't have more practice using it.

I think most of the bias against it is for his builds of 2-3 years ago, he didn't bother making any quality control and for a game making 20k+ per month, it was really dissapointing to say the least
 
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Yes, he has problems. But I was talking about comparisons with other projects not because this one deserves praise just for using AI, but because AI today, AI six months ago, and AI last spring are entirely different beasts. And you’re recalling the time when he was trying to do all this on the clunky, barely usable SD from back then.
AI is a very raw but incredibly effective technology with a future ahead of it. In most aspects of art, it's groundbreaking, but in some areas, it breaks ass at such speeds that it spawns new problems. I could talk about this for hours, but it's all off-topic.
Yeah, models get better with time and the results are amazing the problem is Uber at the beggining and people who use it to create slob make the tool get a bad reputation and people reject it, it has happened with programming languages, game engines and more tools.

It was a great idea making an early adoption of the tool, the problem was the quality control, Chantelle's 3 anuses is a pretty dammed example
 
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Any kind of update for Season 1-4 Android version? Won't run on latest Android. Game looks fun, don't really want to start at Season 5.
 

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Any kind of update for Season 1-4 Android version? Won't run on latest Android. Game looks fun, don't really want to start at Season 5.
Just wait 1 week, supposedly. "Season 1" of the redux (which, we're told is actually 3 Seasons, not 5) is planned for Steam release. Look for an APK then?

Or find an older Android device or find a way to play on a computer.
> We could never have imagined patreon would do this - dated 2024

really? this was pretty well known thing patreon did.
Uberpie enrolled in Victim Card 101 along with Gaslighting 105. Remember, he knew the rules because Patreon gave him a second chance in 2018. Also, as far as I know, no one else saw the communications between Uberpie and Patreon that led up to the final removal - so it's all his side of the story.
 
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Uberpie enrolled in Victim Card 101 along with Gaslighting 105. Remember, he knew the rules because Patreon gave him a second chance in 2018. Also, as far as I know, no one else saw the communications between Uberpie and Patreon that led up to the final removal - so it's all his side of the story.
Oh wow, I was not aware of the 2018 thing. that is even crazier
 

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I was wondering how those patreon subscribers feel with it. Dame it's been a whole year!
It doesn't look like they care, I was reading their discord and there's an interesting post were one of the admins said the project in the long run got more support in subscribestar than patreon
 
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