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Played this probably 5 years ago, it was already an absolute great game then. I expect it has a lot more content now but i will wait a bit longer since as far as i understand, it got an NTR route added to it? That is a pity since it will slown down the progress of the original game. But ah well if that is what the people on e.g. Patreon want then w/e.
 

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Played this probably 5 years ago, it was already an absolute great game then. I expect it has a lot more content now but i will wait a bit longer since as far as i understand, it got an NTR route added to it? That is a pity since it will slown down the progress of the original game. But ah well if that is what the people on e.g. Patreon want then w/e.
NTR Cucks are rabid & will rent out thier backdoors to pay more than anyone to ruin everything.
 

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Played this probably 5 years ago, it was already an absolute great game then. I expect it has a lot more content now but i will wait a bit longer since as far as i understand, it got an NTR route added to it? That is a pity since it will slown down the progress of the original game. But ah well if that is what the people on e.g. Patreon want then w/e.
It's what Uber promised since the beginning, not out of money reasons only, but also because he likes NTR.
 
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NTR Cucks are rabid & will rent out thier backdoors to pay more than anyone to ruin everything.
You sure? The vanilla/non ntr kind love being stepped on by Uber and love making his life be on easy mode with how much money they give him in a consistent basis. It seems your kind is ruining anything much more than any NTR fan or group could by making your kind so easy to take advantage of.
 

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A Peek Behind the Curtain

Hey friends,

Today, I wanted to do something a little different and pull back the curtain on some of the technical and strategic details that go into a project like this. Over the years, we've gained a lot of experience (especially in getting banned, which we're experts at by now ), and I hope you might find this interesting, particularly if you've ever thought about making your own visual novel.

I'll just touch on the first couple of things that come to mind. These aren't in order of importance, just in the order they're popping into my head.

1. Make Something You Actually Like

I’m not going to give you a big speech about how we do this purely for the art. We truly love what we do, but let's be honest: if a project isn't financially successful, it won't survive for long, especially when you have a team to support.

This leads to a huge, interesting challenge. We’ve often looked at other successful projects- things we personally might not enjoy - and wondered why they took off. The temptation is always there to say, "Hey, let's just do that too! How hard can it be?"

The problem with that approach is that you're relying entirely on luck. You don't genuinely like the product you're making, you don't understand why people enjoy it, and you're just copying other developers, hoping to catch the same wave. Sometimes, that works. But when it doesn't, it teaches you nothing. You've just lost time and money. It’s a huge risk.

It sounds cliché, but it’s better to create something you are passionate about. It gives you a compass. You have a gut feeling for what's working and a better understanding of your own project. I hope I'm explaining this clearly, but the bottom line is: your passion is a practical tool.

2. Have a (Rough) Long-Term Plan

This is another huge one. You need to have a general idea of where your project is headed. This affects everything: game mechanics, story, and even monetization.

For example, in terms of story, once you hit major character milestones - like pregnancy, major piercings, tattoos, etc. - your room for maneuver becomes much smaller. These are often narrative end-points for certain arcs. (Yes, some very clever folks out there have invented parallel universes to allow for infinite monetization and work for their writers, but let's not get into that, haha).

The point is, you need to know where you're going. It makes no sense to invest resources in 100+ backgrounds, 40+ characters, and hundreds of outfits and emotions if your project is designed to be a short story. We learned that the hard way. A clear vision helps you focus your efforts where they matter most.

I could honestly write a dozen pages on just these two points, and I've tried my best to keep it brief. I really hope some of that was interesting!

If this kind of post gets a good response, please let me know. I have so many more observations saved up from all these years of development. I sometimes feel like I’ve personally hit every single roadblock in this industry, and I'd be happy to share more if it could help some of you avoid the same mistakes.

As always, thank you so much for your incredible support. It means the world to us.
(And yes - work on Season 2 is in full swing)

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For those who don't like a yap fest, this isn't for you lol.
The creator is still missing one piece of advice, and here it is: first, complete the game, then remake it as many times as you want. Right now, they're remaking it a third time. Only after you've completed the game. Otherwise, we'll have to wait years for a remastered version of the game that follows the original's storyline, or even surpasses it. It's also possible that something will change, the graphics will be even better, and the developers will decide to remake it.
 
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The creator is still missing one piece of advice, and here it is: first, complete the game, then remake it as many times as you want. Right now, they're remaking it a third time. Only after you've completed the game.
Well you're missing something too and here it is: Nobody gives a flying fuck about what you think and it's the creator's game so he can do whatever he wants.
 
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I have to ask something, sorry for the ignorance but what's the difference between the downloadable files? I'm seeing two different ones for like a general(?) and the other is for season 1-5. Are these two the same and that the Season 1-5 are just separated for easy installation or are they not?
 

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I have to ask something, sorry for the ignorance but what's the difference between the downloadable files? I'm seeing two different ones for like a general(?) and the other is for season 1-5. Are these two the same and that the Season 1-5 are just separated for easy installation or are they not?
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Great question. It all depends upon what you want to do.

Do you want to play a version with a lot of content? Go play v0.89.8 "Seasons 1-4" and then v1.07.3 "Season 5" <-- these are both the "in development" versions, not "finished" retail.

If you strictly want a netorare playthrough, play the short completely optional and separate netorare route in v1.07.3 "Season 5" <-- this is the "in development" version, not "finished" retail.

Do you want to see 4k images and video with some additional content added of the first 20% or so of the game, all of it in AI generated art? Play Season 1 Redux. <-- this is the "finished" retail version, nothing more will be added to it. Further Season Redux versions will be separate downloads in the future.
 

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What a coincidence as well that LostRaven, the only person on the team that actually communicated with people quit shortly after that decision... They hired the additional writer for the "NTR Route" that was really a piss and shit fetish route and then LR quit the next release.
 

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What a coincidence as well that LostRaven, the only person on the team that actually communicated with people quit shortly after that decision... They hired the additional writer for the "NTR Route" that was really a piss and shit fetish route and then LR quit the next release.
The netorare writer was hired like 2 years before lostraven left --- and only contributed for v0.95.7 that was released July 2023. Lostraven stayed on for v1.07.3 released February 2024 and up until Steam denied the game from listing at the end of January 2025 for Season 1 Redux. It had nothing to do with the netorare route writing, content, etc.
Who's the trap?
It's not Danny. Danny is gender fluid and is being sissified after Peter finds a picture of him cosplaying as Vivian.

It is Mia .
 
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so it doesn't actually answer the question. I've played a game 3-5 y ago, and want to play it one more time. Should i download redux version?(ai that bad? dunno, never played ai-generated games) or season version? Netorare > not for me
p.s. ah, going to play seasons, based on reviews more people play those, nvm
 
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Count Morado

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so it doesn't actually answer the question. I've played a game 3-5 y ago, and want to play it one more time. Should i download redux version?(ai that bad? dunno, never played ai-generated games) or season version? Netorare > not for me
p.s. ah, going to play seasons, based on reviews more people play those, nvm
I literally answered this question from someone else on the previous page. It's been asked and answered many many times.
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Great question. It all depends upon what you want to do.

Do you want to play a version with a lot of content? Go play v0.89.8 "Seasons 1-4" and then v1.07.3 "Season 5" <-- these are both the "in development" versions, not "finished" retail.
If you strictly want a netorare playthrough, play the short completely optional and separate netorare route in v1.07.3 "Season 5" <-- this is the "in development" version, not "finished" retail.
Do you want to see 4k images and video with some additional content added of the first 20% or so of the game, all of it in AI generated art? Play Season 1 Redux. <-- this is the "finished" retail version, nothing more will be added to it. Further Season Redux versions will be separate downloads in the future.
 
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