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Count Morado

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I was a patreon for a while.I do like supporting projects that i enjoy since it gives them more of a motivation to finish it and produce it to a higher extent.However i also supported to get updates on the game on a certain schedule.When they can't even keep the schedule consistent or at least be more transparent with their supporters i've become a simple consumer.
I don't think its right to think like that: "The developer has no responsibility to worry about those of us who don't drop a penny".
Because some of us were once supporters or we might be in the future.
In order for the game to become bigger and more profitable you need to also attract the people that are currently not paying a dime cause everyone was once a simple consumer before they were "supporters"
And we'll have to disagree on much of what you are saying - including your continued misuse of the term "consumer." However, the key take away is that saying something like "testing starting next week" does nothing which will motivate the average person to move off the fence to donate/contribute. As has been shown in trends with all the developers who are on Patreon (you can see these trends on the site tracking this at graphtreon) - subscriber numbers flatten out and decrease between releases and they don't increase again until an actual release. Simply promising and estimating does next to nothing, no matter whose data you look at (or worse, it can cause a greater backlash if unforeseen delays occur - as is also a trend with developers, and Uberpie particularly).
 

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And we'll have to disagree on much of what you are saying - including your continued misuse of the term "consumer." However, the key take away is that saying something like "testing starting next week" does nothing which will motivate the average person to move off the fence to donate/contribute. As has been shown in trends with all the developers who are on Patreon (you can see these trends on the site tracking this at graphtreon) - subscriber numbers flatten out and decrease between releases and they don't increase again until an actual release. Simply promising and estimating does next to nothing, no matter whose data you look at (or worse, it can cause a greater backlash if unforeseen delays occur - as is also a trend with developers, and Uberpie particularly).
You'll have to excuse my english since its my 3rd language.So i might missuse some words here and there.
However i still stand with what i said.
I didn't claim that saying "Testing starting next week" is something that will contribute to people becoming patreons.
In my original post i said i wished we got something like that however i do understand why they don't do it since it will bring pressure on them and as a result an unfinished product.

I did however say that a lot of people were turned off by the inconsistency in updates and transparency with the SUPPORTING community and not the people that get it for free since you said they wouldn't or shouldn't care about those people in the first place.

Lastly the numbers increase and decrease during release and in between development respectively is to be expected since there are also a lot of people that rather pay one time to access the game instead of supporting all the way from development to release.
 

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You'll have to excuse my english since its my 3rd language.So i might missuse some words here and there.
However i still stand with what i said.
I didn't claim that saying "Testing starting next week" is something that will contribute to people becoming patreons.
In my original post i said i wished we got something like that however i do understand why they don't do it since it will bring pressure on them and as a result an unfinished product.

I did however say that a lot of people were turned off by the inconsistency in updates and transparency with the SUPPORTING community and not the people that get it for free since you said they wouldn't or shouldn't care about those people in the first place.

Lastly the numbers increase and decrease during release and in between development respectively is to be expected since there are also a lot of people that rather pay one time to access the game instead of supporting all the way from development to release.
I appreciate that English is your 3rd language. I only know 2 well, though a smattering of a few others which are siblings in the same language family tree. We are now devolving into off-topic. However, the context of your first post does not match this one. Suffice to say - I will say that had your third post (the above) been your first post, we wouldn't have had this enriching banter.
 

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Hello everyone
Just checking in to let you guys know things are still progressing nicely. We’re still chugging along with work and things and just wanted to show off something fun.
Anyway, back to work!

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She seems bustier and more muscular than before.
 

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She seems bustier and more muscular than before.
Well, Uberpie is continuously honing his style even before now. She does appear more muscular - but as for her bust (she must, she must...) she did start out more petite in the beginning, but the last update she's grown.

Bottom line is Uberpie was never that great at maintaining consistency in his models. I don't know if he ever created good reference art to work from - but all characters have morphed over the 5+ years of development. And it's going to happen in games that are actively being developed.
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are we going to be getting storylines where we force roger to become a trap or sissify him, i only ask because he has a very effeminate face and is an uber bully so it would be good story telling to have him turned into someones Bitch ---

makes one wonder if harry will also be getting the same treatment, since his face is also oddly effeminate. makes me think there might be an option to turn him into the house maid lmao
 

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are we going to be getting storylines where we force roger to become a trap or sissify him, i only ask because he has a very effeminate face and is an uber bully so it would be good story telling to have him turned into someones Bitch ---

makes one wonder if harry will also be getting the same treatment, since his face is also oddly effeminate. makes me think there might be an option to turn him into the house maid lmao
If there ever will be, it will most likely NOT be in the main/harem route but in either the netorare route or the friendship/sharing route. In the coming update only the main/harem and the netorare versions of the game will receive content. The friendship/sharing route is but a whisper at this time.

You could go to the discord and ask Uberpie, though.
 

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If there ever will be, it will most likely NOT be in the main/harem route but in either the netorare route or the friendship/sharing route. In the coming update only the main/harem and the netorare versions of the game will receive content. The friendship/sharing route is but a whisper at this time.

You could go to the discord and ask Uberpie, though.
to me it seems those idea's belong to the main route instead of the netorare or sharing.
harry is a cuck a mc is the bull, red also enjoyed humiliating harry when they were together with gerda.
we also saw him suck a dildo with the maid, so harry becoming a sissy/maid seem to fit in the main route.
about roger being a sissy, doesn't seem likely to me, he doesn't seem feminine to me either.
 

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to me it seems those idea's belong to the main route instead of the netorare or sharing.
harry is a cuck a mc is the bull, red also enjoyed humiliating harry when they were together with gerda.
we also saw him suck a dildo with the maid, so harry becoming a sissy/maid seem to fit in the main route.
about roger being a sissy, doesn't seem likely to me, he doesn't seem feminine to me either.
The only reason why I suggest it may not be in the harem/main route is based upon the post in discord from almost a year ago. So I guess it depends upon what Uberpie defines as "other similar kinks":
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The only reason why I suggest it may not be in the harem/main route is based upon the post in discord from almost a year ago. So I guess it depends upon what Uberpie defines as "other similar kinks":
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What kink do you mean specifically. Because both netori in regards to Harry and sissification (Danny) are already in the main/harem route. I interpreted that post as saying no kinks in regards to sharing/women with other men. That kind of thing.
 

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The only reason why I suggest it may not be in the harem/main route is based upon the post in discord from almost a year ago. So I guess it depends upon what Uberpie defines as "other similar kinks":
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he probably doesn't consider netori as ntr, i think usually and for most people it's not considered ntr.
also netori is a huge part of the ongoing plot, with danny- becca, clara
harry- gerda, possibly pricillia
and seems like also for future characters- Chantelle her mom, also that ugly indian kid and his nurse mom.
probably ntr is the sharing, netorase and netorare of course.
 
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What kink do you mean specifically. Because both netori in regards to Harry and sissification (Danny) are already in the main/harem route. I interpreted that post as saying no kinks in regards to sharing/women with other men. That kind of thing.
So, the current version is mainly the main/harem route but there are some scenes and kinks which shouldn't be expected, based upon Uberpie's speaking, to remain in that route once the two separate versions of the game are released (main/harem and netorare). He has mentioned that he doesn't expect the crossdressing scene of the MC expressing as Winifred, in particular, to continue in the main/harem route. Pennyworth, the fourth personality of the MC (Blue, Red, Winifred being the other three) probably won't exist in the main/harem route.

Danny is not a sissified character. Danny is a femboy (in avoidable scenes). Yes, there is a difference. I haven't seen anything about how that plotline will be affected by this splitting of the game into two (and then, maybe, three with the friendship/sharing) routes. And since Danny already has a sizable following, regardless of other proclivities regarding harem and netorare, I would assume Danny will remain in both versions of the game.

Particularly since Danny's storyline is already coded as such to be (nearly?) completely avoidable as it is, I don't necessarily see Danny's optional scenes removed from the main/harem route, but adding other characters with sissification, etc? That might be a bit much for a vocal individuals in the fandom. Which goes to the question why are we getting two completely different versions - netorare and harem - because there has been enough whining and wailing from a number of anti-netorare people (not all) that they can't stand even the option of netorare in their experience of playing. Some of this is due to coding issues in a previous version which didn't hide an option to a preview of what might be seen in a netorare version (Mary and Darnell in the gym).
he probably doesn't consider netori as ntr, i think usually and for most people it's not considered ntr.
probably ntr is the sharing, netorase and netorare of course.
I would assume the same - as would the vast majority of people - that netori is not considered NTR, should not be considered NTR, and using the same three letter acronym for various definitions within the same field/believe system/sexuality/etc whatever is highly problematic and should be discouraged rather than continued. Acronyms are supposed to shorten and delineate. Thank you for your part in using the terms, rather than just relying on the three-letters.

The NTR/netorare route is a completely different storyline/route/quest line than the friendship/sharing route - at least it has been presented as being planned as a third route after the first two, main/harem and NTR, routes for at least 3 years.
 
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So, the current version is mainly the main/harem route but there are some scenes and kinks which shouldn't be expected, based upon Uberpie's speaking, to remain in that route once the two separate versions of the game are released (main/harem and netorare). He has mentioned that he doesn't expect the crossdressing scene of the MC expressing as Winifred, in particular, to continue in the main/harem route. Pennyworth, the fourth personality of the MC (Blue, Red, Winifred being the other three) probably won't exist in the main/harem route.

Danny is not a sissified character. Danny is a femboy (in avoidable scenes). Yes, there is a difference. I haven't seen anything about how that plotline will be affected by this splitting of the game into two (and then, maybe, three with the friendship/sharing) routes. And since Danny already has a sizable following, regardless of other proclivities regarding harem and netorare, I would assume Danny will remain in both versions of the game.

Particularly since Danny's storyline is already coded as such to be (nearly?) completely avoidable as it is, I don't necessarily see Danny's optional scenes removed from the main/harem route, but adding other characters with sissification, etc? That might be a bit much for a vocal individuals in the fandom. Which goes to the question why are we getting two completely different versions - netorare and harem - because there has been enough whining and wailing from a number of anti-netorare people (not all) that they can't stand even the option of netorare in their experience of playing. Some of this is due to coding issues in a previous version which didn't hide an option to a preview of what might be seen in a netorare version (Mary and Darnell in the gym).
I would assume the same - as would the vast majority of people - that netori is not considered NTR, should not be considered NTR, and using the same three letter acronym for various definitions within the same field/believe system/sexuality/etc whatever is highly problematic and should be discouraged rather than continued. Acronyms are supposed to shorten and delineate. Thank you for your part in using the terms, rather than just relying on the three-letters.

The NTR/netorare route is a completely different storyline/route/quest line than the friendship/sharing route - at least it has been presented as being planned as a third route after the first two, main/harem and NTR, routes for at least 3 years.
I know you won't mind if I write this, but I think it's incredible how you're always aware of what happens in this thread and take the time to respond without offending (at least I haven't felt like you've offended anyone) and with arguments.
Although I imagine it must be tiring
 
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