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swmas

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The sense that this game makes comes as a combination of several different game concepts, so people who're looking for a "pure" experience might be confused or frustrated by some of it.

At its onset it was a straight-out violated heroine game but with hapless cute boys and futa monster girls instead of hapless cute girls and male monsters. The concept was "survive as long as you can before something fucks you into a game over", like all the rest.

As it progressed though it incorporated more inspiration from CoC (i.e. dominant victory sex and submissive loss rape) and took the concept into victorious virtuous hero vs. loser slut as a sliding scale; the more you win the more virtuous you stay and the more you lose the sluttier and more depraved you become. These aren't too heavily gated, though, so you can easily end up doing one of the slutty scenes and then run into one of the virtuous hero scenes.

Then on the side there are some dating sim-esque scenes with recruitable party members and none of these really fit into the whole hero vs. slut mechanic of the adventure portions and the mechanics of these are -very- barebones, there isn't really relationship progression or anything and everyone just sticks to their personalities (Urka is a rough-but-not-mean dominant, Trudy is a snarky switch who thinks he's way stronger than he is, Kylira is a sweet mostly-bottom who's bashful about his desires, Hiro is a gung-ho but cutely hapless switch).

People who just want something to jack it to find the format frustrating, especially with the complex battle system. You have to actually play a game and go around figuring out how to unlock scenes and so on. It's not easily conductive to "one-handed play". It tries to be broadly appealing, too, it's not one of those terrible sissy-fetish games where everything is about how weak and pathetic the main character is or one of those equally terrible macho bimbo games where everyone is a dumb slut there to be mind-controlled or whatever by the main character. It's a mix of things and you have to meet it where it is so to speak, the implementation isn't perfect.
If I wanted a game like any regular rpg, to win battles and save the world, I wouldn't play a game where I am a crossdressing male sissy with a huge ass and pigtails that sucks cock all the time. But I would very much play that if I wanted just to fap. The battle system if fine for whoever wants it but I wish it wasn't mandatory. Maybe a auto-resolve/auto-lose battle option would work or a pacifist class or perk.
 

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If I wanted a game like any regular rpg, to win battles and save the world, I wouldn't play a game where I am a crossdressing male sissy with a huge ass and pigtails that sucks cock all the time. But I would very much play that if I wanted just to fap. The battle system if fine for whoever wants it but I wish it wasn't mandatory. Maybe a auto-resolve/auto-lose battle option would work or a pacifist class or perk.
Combat and RPG's go together like peanut butter and jelly.

There already is a surrender option so if it bothers you that much just surrender every time then. It's not like you have to fight and there are basically zero consequences to losing all the time. Also, turn on cheats if you want to avoid the few game overs that can occur from doing this.
 
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swmas

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Combat and RPG's go together like peanut butter and jelly.

There already is a surrender option so if it bothers you that much just surrender every time then. It's not like you have to fight and there are basically zero consequences to losing all the time. Also, turn on cheats if you want to avoid the few game overs that can occur from doing this.
As I said, I don't play it for the RPG I play it to fap, If I wanted turn-based, mostly text combat I'd play an '80 crpg.
It's about the time it takes with loading end even clicking surrender, it adds up, especially when you don't have to, the results are the same.
 

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As I said, I don't play it for the RPG I play it to fap, If I wanted turn-based, mostly text combat I'd play an '80 crpg.
It's about the time it takes with loading end even clicking surrender, it adds up, especially when you don't have to, the results are the same.
I wish all the 90's RPG's I used to play back in the Snes/Genesis era had porn in them, lol. It would give a whole new meaning to grinding in Phantasy Star and Final Fantasy that's for sure. :LOL:

I get that but just like you have your likes and dislikes so do the rest of us. I'm glad there is a little more to the game than just the sex. Right now I would put the game at like 90% sex and 10% game. I personally would like to see it closer to 50/50.

I do understand this will never happen because Pateron is a double-edged sword. If they can make thousands a month just by adding a couple of paragraphs and half a dozen pornographic photos then why rock the boat and do anything else and while I am happy to see them make money it also saddens me because I know not much will ever happen with the "game" portion.

As far as the load times what are you playing on? On the PC you can preload the game at the start and that pretty much takes away all of the load times.
 
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I wish all the 90's RPG's I used to play back in the Snes/Genesis era had porn in them, lol. It would give a whole new meaning to grinding in Phantasy Star and Final Fantasy that's for sure. :LOL:

I get that but just like you have your likes and dislikes so do the rest of us. I'm glad there is a little more to the game than just the sex. Right now I would put the game at like 90% sex and 10% game. I personally would like to see it closer to 50/50.

I do understand this will never happen because Pateron is a double-edged sword. If they can make thousands a month just by adding a couple of paragraphs and half a dozen pornographic photos then why rock the boat and do anything else and while I am happy to see them make money it also saddens me because I know not much will ever happen with the "game" portion.

As far as the load times what are you playing on? On the PC you can preload the game at the start and that pretty much takes away all of the load times.
Just wanted to say your mod is amazing <3
 
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As I said, I don't play it for the RPG I play it to fap, If I wanted turn-based, mostly text combat I'd play an '80 crpg.
It's about the time it takes with loading end even clicking surrender, it adds up, especially when you don't have to, the results are the same.
You my friend swmas are getting likes from me. The reason: you have wrote a magic word "FAP" here. I'm actually not kidding. Long time no see if somebody stating what is obvious. I must admit that Skip/Continue button would be much greater if it could be somewhat configurable in games menu - with some spiced option to randomly resolve encounters (yeah... one-hand game play, xoxo...).
 
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Vintrion

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I'm one of the people that likes struggle, bad ends, and even playing against shitty games just to reach a particular scene because it's more immersive that way. I would always just start a new game and plan my route way ahead of time than to just load a save and rush to content. I often 'fail' as soon as I meet a Brigand. Always skip old dialogue though. This doesn't apply to some games that would take 2 hours of grind before you can actually see content.
Well akshually it's one trap and a horde of very aroused futanaris so
I don't actually know the preferred terminology of this particular community, but the only NPC with a dick and vagina is Naga, everyone else is just a shemale, or dickgirl if you wanted a vague non-offensive term.

You'd get flack over it on most futa-oriented communities since the oldest purists believe futa must be hermaphroditic, but everything around western-artists just take it as a loan-word to apply to basically anything, sometimes crossdressers. This argument is pretty common though, and often derailing, so it's easier to ignore this post if you have disagreements because it usually attracts even more unrelated posters into arguing about it.

Personally, I prefer non-hermaphroditic.
 
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If I wanted a game like any regular rpg, to win battles and save the world, I wouldn't play a game where I am a crossdressing male sissy with a huge ass and pigtails that sucks cock all the time. But I would very much play that if I wanted just to fap. The battle system if fine for whoever wants it but I wish it wasn't mandatory. Maybe a auto-resolve/auto-lose battle option would work or a pacifist class or perk.
If you open combat by choosing Duck, then Surrender, you'll lose in two moves. Not an entire skip combat option, but it's something if you really hate the combat.
 
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If I wanted a game like any regular rpg, to win battles and save the world, I wouldn't play a game where I am a crossdressing male sissy with a huge ass and pigtails that sucks cock all the time.
well i would...
 

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Follow the link in my sig to the mod thread for the download link and if you enjoy the mod please give it a like. :)
 
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If you open combat by choosing Duck, then Surrender, you'll lose in two moves. Not an entire skip combat option, but it's something if you really hate the combat.
On a contrary note, I actually enjoy the combat aspect of this game, even though I struggle with it with certain enemies. Maybe it's the balance / stance system but I often feel like I've got not idea what I'm doing. I often just resort to Seducing as it's much easier to win. Do you guys have any tips for combat?
 

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On a contrary note, I actually enjoy the combat aspect of this game, even though I struggle with it with certain enemies. Maybe it's the balance / stance system but I often feel like I've got not idea what I'm doing. I often just resort to Seducing as it's much easier to win. Do you guys have any tips for combat?
Yes. Upgrade your armor, weapon and other items in Blacksmith. To do this you need to collect many Crystals (best way collecting it from Golem) and need to have enough gold. Weapon +10 will deal more damage than a weapon +1. Armor +10 will protect you better than armor +1.
 
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Vintrion

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That's a lot of grind by chance, and exceeding 3 would be at a point where you wouldn't actually need the extra blips of damage.

There's a lot of ways to be stronger:

Bonus Points: You can get 4 extremely fast, or 8 if you start up Iron-man mode and gun it for the nearest achievement bad end

Warrior: dump points into Str/Agi and use the Broadsword+1, which scales better than the Gladius+2 from the spider. Rarely, the low perception will actually be a major detriment, so it's really only good for beating down everything you can actually fight, but just falling victim to the few events that could potentially be a bad end.

Thief: +3 Agi from bonus points, Cat Potion, and just steal all the end-game gear, a few others can do this with bonus points. You generally steal one item less at monster town, even after buying shoes of running to increase your agility before attempting it.

Mage/Enchanter: Nuke everything with Ultra Fire 3+Oil combo. This doesn't work on everything. On Queztl and possibly Iron-man for Mage/Enchanter, just dump all your initial mana into Queztl then use tempo attack/second wind spam with some appropriate blocks, the bleed-stacks and Broadsword+1/Gladius+2 will have enough strength to down her in time. Eat the Ox/Bear/Cat potions before the fight and acquire Heal from Kylira instead of wasting crystals on True/Ultra Heal. Try it out first several times on normal, it's easier to do Number One Hero and Pure Hero in two separate runs.

Grab spam: Some enemies do this while erect, if your agility is higher you can duck and jack them off before they can force you to suck dick.

As for 'best' regardless of Mage's more ideal magic and stat distribution, I prefer Enchanter then maxing out Charisma, for fun, and can still prepare for and fight most encounters with no problem. Although I just dump all my bonus perk points into Agi just because stealing is way more convenient than grinding gold.
 
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