Java Tales of Androgyny [v0.3.51.3] [Majalis]

[ara1111]

I can't get over food. I always seem to be on the verge of starving. I don't even play Orcblood, and I frequently end up with scenes I don't want (like passing out and losing anal virginity to some unknown beast) because I run out of food. Specifically, this becomes a problem for me in the mossy expanse, where there really aren't any towns, and finding food comes down to the luck of your cache and "humanoid" trader node spawns...

Even with a Hunger Charm, how do you either gain a lot of food, or slow food loss to a crawl?

Just suck cock
Also how you heal
Also how you stall in fights
Also how you make yourself horny irl
Sucking cock is broken in this game

 

[thebighole]

Yeah, if the easiest way to deal with a situation is to save-scum it, I think that's a problem.

The easiest way to deal with the situation is to take your lumps.

 

[UndeadEve]

You showing dominance resulting in them dominating you it's quite counter-intuitive though

A few pages ago (don't remember the page) the devs told us why it's like that
They told us something along the lines of "the werewolves are WAY stronger than you think, they're only playing pretend fight with you, the more you are "dominant" the more they're interested in you."
Basically, if you win a fight, you only win a "pretend fight" with her, and since you're strong, something they REALLY like, you get fucked.

 

[Geralt_of_Trivia]

I can't get over food. I always seem to be on the verge of starving. I don't even play Orcblood, and I frequently end up with scenes I don't want (like passing out and losing anal virginity to some unknown beast) because I run out of food. Specifically, this becomes a problem for me in the mossy expanse, where there really aren't any towns, and finding food comes down to the luck of your cache and "humanoid" trader node spawns...

Even with a Hunger Charm, how do you either gain a lot of food, or slow food loss to a crawl?

there is something else you can eat that fills your hunger and is in great abundance

 

[mordet]

A few pages ago (don't remember the page) the devs told us why it's like that
They told us something along the lines of "the werewolves are WAY stronger than you think, they're only playing pretend fight with you, the more you are "dominant" the more they're interested in you."
Basically, if you win a fight, you only win a "pretend fight" with her, and since you're strong, something they REALLY like, you get fucked.

hey, I get the logic, but it's poorly conveyed in-game. that's why people are confused. If there was an event where that happened to someone else, before it happened to you, no one would complain.

 

[ara1111]

Also makes specializing in strenght or similar stats and you know getting stronger in an RPG feel pretty pointless if even one of the most basic enemies is always stronger than us forever regardless of anything just because

 

[Vintrion]

I always play objectively in ToA and always avoid starvation but mainly to avoid it I only play seeds I know have a small first zone so I can rush straight to the quests and get everything sorted/bought before I dump whatever gold remains on the inn to bump up food before Quetz/second zone. The generation can just outright fuck you over with an overly huge world. They sometimes provide routes to allow you to bypass Naga/Wasp but not always.

What always gets me about Urka is that even from defeating her in 6 rounds from Ultra Fireball spam she always regards you as a 'strong warrior' and not just a cheap-shotting mage. Which, just being Enchanter is enough for Ultra Fireball spam.

 

[mordet]

The generation can just outright fuck you over with an overly huge world. They sometimes provide routes to allow you to bypass Naga/Wasp but not always.

riposte is your ally.

 

[UndeadEve]

hey, I get the logic, but it's poorly conveyed in-game. that's why people are confused. If there was an event where that happened to someone else, before it happened to you, no one would complain.

I agree with you on that, the info is there, but it's really light and you can miss it (it's like a little warning telling you that if you're strong it's gonna be bad or something), but i also understand that "lore-wise", almost no one know what the fuck the werewolves are (hence the brothel madame quest to know more about them).
But i also understand the next one

Also makes specializing in strenght or similar stats and you know getting stronger in an RPG feel pretty pointless if even one of the most basic enemies is always stronger than us forever regardless of anything just because

I mean, you can manage to become stronger (or equal at least) than a god (quetzal) but you still can't be stronger than a regular werewolf ? doesn't make sense to me.
That you can't be stronger than the giant being representing the litteral land, i understand, but at some point you have to be stronger than a werewolf, right ?
even with the logic of "pretend fight", you can just make another fight with their "real strengh", even if it's another "joke fight" like the giant, just so that people have an understanding of how strong they actually are.
Maybe it's just me but i think it would be better that way.

 

[mordet]

I agree with you on that, the info is there, but it's really light and you can miss it (it's like a little warning telling you that if you're strong it's gonna be bad or something), but i also understand that "lore-wise", almost no one know what the fuck the werewolves are (hence the brothel madame quest to know more about them).
But i also understand the next one

I mean, you can manage to become stronger (or equal at least) than a god (quetzal) but you still can't be stronger than a regular werewolf ? doesn't make sense to me.
That you can't be stronger than the giant being representing the litteral land, i understand, but at some point you have to be stronger than a werewolf, right ?
even with the logic of "pretend fight", you can just make another fight with their "real strengh", even if it's another "joke fight" like the giant, just so that people have an understanding of how strong they actually are.
Maybe it's just me but i think it would be better that way.

I agree with you but the dev team don't seem to.

If I added another fight, people would complain that it's an unwinnable fight, or go looking for strategies on how to win it, like some people do with the giantess. There are ways to avoid the werewolf - either sneaking past her, scouting her out and avoiding her, or placating her another way. Or temporarily reducing your strength.

 

[UndeadEve]

I agree with you but the dev team don't seem to.

i would agree with them, but the fact is that people complain that they get fucked by the werewolf anyway, if there is a second fight, even if it's unwinnable, people would understand why they get fucked and would then avoid the fight because they know they can't win.
as of now, it's a constant repeat of "Why am i getting fucked even tho i won ?"
every
single
day

 

[Majalis (ToA)]

hey, I get the logic, but it's poorly conveyed in-game. that's why people are confused. If there was an event where that happened to someone else, before it happened to you, no one would complain.

They would though.

 

[mordet]

They would though.

We already had this discussion so there's no point in having it again.
While I got you, though, I need to ask, for the skills in-game that have a "For each skill level" tag: does the first level also count towards that?
Oh, and what's the difference between kip up and stand up?

 

[mordet]

just got an error Majalis_ToA

 

[Majalis (ToA)]

We already had this discussion so there's no point in having it again.
While I got you, though, I need to ask, for the skills in-game that have a "For each skill level" tag: does the first level also count towards that?
Oh, and what's the difference between kip up and stand up?

The first level counts, yeah. Kip Up instantly returns you to max stability, whereas Stand Up only recovers a portion, but costs less stamina (and can be used with less stamina).

just got an error Majalis_ToA

Thanks. Is it persistent? What did you click when it crashed? It's weird that it didn't load that particular asset... or tried to unload it twice.

 

[mordet]

The first level counts, yeah. Kip Up instantly returns you to max stability, whereas Stand Up only recovers a portion, but costs less stamina (and can be used with less stamina).

Thanks for the info, maybe this could be written on the tooltip.

Thanks. Is it persistent? What did you click when it crashed? It's weird that it didn't load that particular asset... or tried to unload it twice.

No, it only happened once. If I recall correctly, I clicked on the level up button when I was on the... fortress? the place next to the black knight.

 

[Majalis (ToA)]

Thanks for the info, maybe this could be written on the tooltip.

No, it only happened once. If I recall correctly, I clicked on the level up button when I was on the... fortress? the place next to the black knight.

Okay, actually figured it out, had to do with loading an unloading third world map assets, so that should be fixed.

 

[mr_tao]

I agree with you on that, the info is there, but it's really light and you can miss it (it's like a little warning telling you that if you're strong it's gonna be bad or something), but i also understand that "lore-wise", almost no one know what the fuck the werewolves are (hence the brothel madame quest to know more about them).

I think "you cannot defeat werebitches, you can only bore them to leave or excite them in fucking your ass" should be stated more clearly

 

[Advent515]

I think "you cannot defeat werebitches, you can only bore them to leave or excite them in fucking your ass" should be stated more clearly

This reminds me of werewolves from Disciples 2 where they can be defeated only by magic being physically invincible.

 

[Leo Humilis]

This reminds me of werewolves from Disciples 2 where they can be defeated only by magic being physically invincible.

Well, in this game, the only enemy who is invincible to physical attacks and may only be defeated by magic is the ghost (the fire elemental is the exact opposite). With the werewolves "in heat" (combat with the feral kind are pretty straightforward) it is basically that you need to lose in order to "win" and you "lose" when you win. I personally find this pretty refreshing as long as this dynamics is limited to to only one or few types of enemies.