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more Ogre scenes, the next part of story mode
Well, that's all I wanted.

how do i get urka in to my party i fought her and won many time wat do i do i looked tho the post but no one talks about urka the talk how to get the other 2 companions can anyone help me
After you beat Urka, you have to let her take you to Pound Town.

If you are trying to do a Virgin run, then you can't get her. Though, it's not really much of a loss since she doesn't really do anything as a party member other than have sex with you or the other two.
 
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UndeadEve

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Well, that's all I wanted.
I admit i wanted more ogre scene for a long time now, no monster has that big of a dick (there is even a "skill" with it) but unfortunately you can do things only when you lose, and losing too many time means a game over.
So i was happy when i read they're making new scenes :D.
 

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Does anyone have a link to the save editor which doesn't use frossnow I will take anything?
All you need is a text editor, I personally prefer Notepad++, but the .json files can be opened with regular win. Notepad. BUt you will find Notepad++ to be much better for editing over all.
 

taglag

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If you are trying to do a Virgin run, then you can't get her. Though, it's not really much of a loss since she doesn't really do anything as a party member other than have sex with you or the other two.
I had not thought about it, but that is actually quite true, the Orc does not offer training or anything, at least from the other 2 you can get some training, as well as sex, and Trudy is is a good diversion for the Werewolf girlies. And Kylira Is a funny diversion with the Brigands.

But I am not a big fan of the Orc, I do normally pick them up, but late in the game. To totalitarian in nature for me, but can be a fun diversion too.

I have actually never sent Kylira to the Brothel, I guess I should make a save and do this sometime.. I always just put her in the party.
 

Abeldanger

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Meh. Hiro nearly always gets it in the end.
I'm not sorry about the pun.

Question for the game devs. Any chance we could get the choice to 'lie' about not having gold in the scenes that only allow you to choose 'low funds' when you're actually broke?
Because to get the scenes for the inn and the bunny, I actually had to use cheat engine to drop my gold due to having plenty and not much to spend it on.

'Under the desk' is pretty much my favorite scene type, even though its so rare to actually find. I would love to have the first innkeeper "can't pay" animated.
Might be less work just to have the bank have an option to leave x amount of gold as a deposit (or just a 'leave all' if setting up specific amounts would be burdensome), then wouldn't have to write a 'lie' subroutine to every money-dependent scene. Drop all your gold in the bank and go do your thing, then pick it back up later.

Edit: Oof, reading back through this thread is a minefield. Maj, I don't necessarily agree with all your decisions, but wanted to thank to you and Alis for your efforts on this game. I have found it fun. Hope there's no sour grapes based on interactions here. I funded it for a long time until I decided Patreon was no longer a platform I wished to participate in due to their anti-free-speech stances and fucked-up policies. Sent you a message asking if there was an alternate way to support ToA but didn't hear back before the next funding deadline was about to roll over, so I deleted all Patreon pledges and disabled my account there. Cheers and best of luck going forward.
 
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taglag

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Might be less work just to have the bank have an option to leave x amount of gold as a deposit (or just a 'leave all' if setting up specific amounts would be burdensome), then wouldn't have to write a 'lie' subroutine to every money-dependent scene. Drop all your gold in the bank and go do your thing, then pick it back up later.
Yes that would not be a bad Option to be able to lie and say you had no gold or have a place to deposit it all.

I normally just edit the save, and search for money, and set it to zero or one for now. If I wish to see a scene that requires me to have no money.

And then place it back to the original value later if I need to.
 

Abeldanger

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Yes that would not be a bad Option to be able to lie and say you had no gold or have a place to deposit it all.

I normally just edit the save, and search for money, and set it to zero or one for now. If I wish to see a scene that requires me to have no money.

And then place it back to the original value later if I need to.
Yeah, I have used tools like CheatEngine which can edit memory locations to achieve the same effect in the past (really liked the pooka bad end scene). If you really hate the ToA combat system, btw, you can use this to win or lose any encounter pretty easily, with a little practice on tracking value changes. Not gonna go into a full tutorial here, but e.g. CheatEngine enter your starting HP as a new search when combat begins, wait til it goes down, search for the new value as the next scan, repeat until you've narrowed it down to a single memory address, then either freeze it or bump it to 60 as necessary (to win) or set it to 1 or 0 to lose (you can set it back up to 60 after you start to see the defeat dialog if you don't want to heal at camp afterwards). Memory location for HP resets every combat so without writing a script to find it that's the easiest way to go.
Don't think every user is up to these methods, so a quick-n-easy fix might be a second value in the save to track banked gold, then a dialog tree with 'deposit all' 'withdraw 10' (repeatable) and 'withdraw all' options.
 
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Yeah, I have used tools like CheatEngine which can edit memory locations to achieve the same effect in the past (really liked the pooka bad end scene). If you really hate the ToA combat system, btw, you can use this to win or lose any encounter pretty easily, with a little practice on tracking value changes. Not gonna go into a full tutorial here, but e.g. CheatEngine enter your starting HP as a new search when combat begins, wait til it goes down, search for the new value as the next scan, repeat until you've narrowed it down to a single memory address, then either freeze it or bump it to 60 as necessary (to win) or set it to 1 or 0 to lose (you can set it back up to 60 after you start to see the defeat dialog if you don't want to heal at camp afterwards). Memory location for HP resets every combat so without writing a script to find it that's the easiest way to go.
Don't think every user is up to these methods, so a quick-n-easy fix might be a second value in the save to track banked gold, then a dialog tree with 'deposit all' 'withdraw 10' (repeatable) and 'withdraw all' options.
Or you can save edit with notepad, that works too.
 

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Are there more 'no gold' events besides the inn and the bunny debt?
Because I just made a save with no gold right outside the town. And the encounter button takes care of the bunny showing up.
 

taglag

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Or you can save edit with notepad, that works too.
Yeppers! I find for this game Note pad is far easier, and allows me much faster, and easier changes to this game as in changing my class, money, adding item's, skills, removing virginity, or finished quests so I can do them again.

I use cheat engine, and make tables for it when needed for some games, but it is just not the best or easiest for this game.
Are there more 'no gold' events besides the inn and the bunny debt?
Because I just made a save with no gold right outside the town. And the encounter button takes care of the bunny showing up.
The stay at inn with out enough money requires you to be basically broke. I cannot think right now, but seems like there may be another.
 
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You all say use the Notepad++ to edit your save. How do you get it to keep your edits? Ive tried to max out food for a bit but it always brings it back to what it was when i saved originally.
Any help would be great!
 

UndeadEve

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You all say use the Notepad++ to edit your save. How do you get it to keep your edits? Ive tried to max out food for a bit but it always brings it back to what it was when i saved originally.
Any help would be great!
do you edit the right save file ?
it's confusing why it's like that but, save 1 is save 0, save 2 is save 1 ect.
Also, do you edit in the right place ?
in the file there is 2 sides, i don't really know why and what is the second part used for, but it's there.
 
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You all say use the Notepad++ to edit your save. How do you get it to keep your edits? Ive tried to max out food for a bit but it always brings it back to what it was when i saved originally.
Any help would be great!
do you edit the right save file ?
it's confusing why it's like that but, save 1 is save 0, save 2 is save 1 ect.
Also, do you edit in the right place ?
in the file there is 2 sides, i don't really know why and what is the second part used for, but it's there.
Yes editing save0.json does not work well for me, I normally edit save1.json which like UndeadEve said save0.json is save1 in the game. the saves start like all hex numbered Items zero is one, 1 is two, and so on.

The edits are quite simple, but there is a catch. The bottom of the save ( anything past the name Hiro ) is default, and has nothing to do with your saved game.
So all your edits need to be in the top half of the game save above the Hiro default. I hope that makes sense.

Like here is a pumped up nearly complete Profile with a Pumped up save1.json ( I have attached), which in the game would be save2. This save file is at the beginning of a new game, before ever moving. The profile is needed because the save requires the extra points one gets during the creation of a new character. Which the nearly complete Profile gives.

The money, crystals, and food are bumped up major high, as are many of the skills. It is for testing or quickly buzzing through the game.

Looking at it in notepad++ might help you to see what you need to change to gain strength, and money, food, crystals whatever.

Looking at the QuestFlag (search for it in ,json file ) you can see what quest's you have done, and also what stage they may be at on ones where this is important.

If by chance you want to repeat a quest that you have already done, maybe in a different way. Example

"GADGETEER": 2,
Just highlight, and delete that line save it, load that save, and the quest will have never been done, and you can go do it again. NOTE the last questFlag will not have the [,] after it as in Example
"ELF": 9 (note the Comma missing in the last Quest flag, this is also true when editing the Inventory the last entry will not have a comma at the end of the double { } )

The .json is pretty self explanatory and for the most part very simple to understand. just always back up your save first encase you bumble something.
Like if the save you want to keep is save2. Make a new save in save3, and edit that one in Notepad++ which will be save2.json.

I hope some of that helps.
 
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UndeadEve

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The edits are quite simple, but there is a catch. The bottom of the save ( anything past the name Hiro ) is default, and has nothing to do with your saved game.
So all your edits need to be in the top half of the game save above the Hiro default. I hope that makes sense.
I will use this oportunity to ask, why is there a default part ?
I kind of understood it was the default (mostly because the name was hiro) but i don't understand why it's there at all.
 

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Basically save 0 is save slot 1 and slot 1 is actually slot 2 and so on. I just use slot 0 and quick save. Quick save is my preference.
 
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