VN Ren'Py Tavern of Spear [v0.31a] [Caro]

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AxelFoxe

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I just arrived where the voting takes place in the mountain town, what are the consequences, whether the tiger or the dog wins?
 

Unnoted

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I just arrived where the voting takes place in the mountain town, what are the consequences, whether the tiger or the dog wins?
I have 2 saves with different results and for now the biggest difference I noticed is that now when you sleep with Einar he is only in his underwear
 

az1996

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Yes, editting your stats did tend to break something in the script and set your HP to 0. First it was too high main stats and then it was too high max HP etc. Now I didn't encounter that anymore.

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I ran into this too when I returned from the mountain (I took a break from this game since May last year) and decided to look into it since I decomped the latest version:

Code:
if Zalt.str +Zalt.agi +Zalt.int +Zalt.cha +Zalt.end >= 100:
        $ Zalt.hp -= Zalt.maxhp
    if Zalt.ATK >= 700 or Zalt.maxhp >= 900 or Zalt.maxmp >= 900:
        $ Zalt.hp -= Zalt.maxhp
This is checked any time you load into the Forest Map.
For a porn game the author seems to care a fair amount for the security/integrity of playthroughs or something, from this check to (usually) only distributing the compiled versions of the scripts.
 
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I ran into this too when I returned from the mountain (I took a break from this game since May last year) and decided to look into it since I decomped the latest version:

Code:
if Zalt.str +Zalt.agi +Zalt.int +Zalt.cha +Zalt.end >= 100:
        $ Zalt.hp -= Zalt.maxhp
    if Zalt.ATK >= 700 or Zalt.maxhp >= 900 or Zalt.maxmp >= 900:
        $ Zalt.hp -= Zalt.maxhp
This is checked any time you load into the Forest Map.
For a porn game the author seems to care a fair amount for the security/integrity of playthroughs or something, from this check to (usually) only distributing the compiled versions of the scripts.
Thanks for the find. I didn't put time in finding that one out.
So the dev actually put effort in fucking with players, even though they can naturally achieve these stats. What a salty trojan coding bitch. He should put less effort in these traps and more into fixing and adding genuine content.
 
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nackedsnake

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I ran into this too when I returned from the mountain (I took a break from this game since May last year) and decided to look into it since I decomped the latest version:

Code:
if Zalt.str +Zalt.agi +Zalt.int +Zalt.cha +Zalt.end >= 100:
        $ Zalt.hp -= Zalt.maxhp
    if Zalt.ATK >= 700 or Zalt.maxhp >= 900 or Zalt.maxmp >= 900:
        $ Zalt.hp -= Zalt.maxhp
This is checked any time you load into the Forest Map.
For a porn game the author seems to care a fair amount for the security/integrity of playthroughs or something, from this check to (usually) only distributing the compiled versions of the scripts.
Thanks for the find. I didn't put time in finding that one out.
So the dev actually put effort in fucking with players, even though they can naturally achieve these stats. What a salty trojan coding bitch. He should put less effort in these traps and more into fixing and adding genuine content.
So you are saying the dev actively trying to Block players out of the game, if they "cheated" the stats?

Assuming he doesn't have some mental problems that want to make players suffer.
I can think of an reason: He want to sell the "Cheat Version" better. By denying the ability to cheat on their own, player might be more inclined to buy his "Cheat Version".

If the dev really cares about the integrity of the game, he should just coded in a way that nullify your modification.
Or if he's not mentally ill that want to punish players, could've just set a cap so player won't break the game.

But punishin' players often backfires. Especially for a porn game that relies on Goodwill / Word of Mouth.
Sounds kinda silly.
 
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I can think of an reason: He want to sell the "Cheat Version" better. By denying the ability to cheat on their own, player might be more inclined to buy his "Cheat Version".
From my knowledge there is no cheat version, just the cheat code available for higher tier supporters. So the game should behave like that since there is no different code base.
 
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nackedsnake

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From my knowledge there is no cheat version, just the cheat code available for higher tier supporters. So the game should behave like that since there is no different code base.
It's the fact the Dev is selling "Official Cheats", and actively punishin' players who use cheats that's not the "Official" one.
How the dev sell the cheats / whether there's a separate "cheat build" is irrelevant.
On top of that, the dev made this game extremely grindy and unbalanced, which leads to higher tendency to cheat.

Again, this is totally conspiracy theory, it might simply be that the Dev enjoy making players suffer. Tho I'm not sure which is worse.

And I don't believe it's just simply due to the dev is bad at / messed up the coding. He deliberately coded in this way that serves no purpose other than punishing players who cheats but not thru the "official" one.
There are many games sellin' cheats (be that a cheat code or a cheat version), this is the first one I saw has such behaviour.
 
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Marruk51

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And I don't believe it's just simply due to the dev is bad at / messed up the coding. He deliberately coded in this way that serves no purpose other than punishing players who cheats but not thru the "official" one.
There are many games sellin' cheats (be that a cheat code or a cheat version), this is the first one I saw has such behaviour.
But there is a very easy fix that tells you when you upload a save of the game, you can just follow that and make your cheated save valid

this is what the site says to do and it works:
"Your RenPy version have some save protection, to disable find this file \renpy\savetoken.py and replace if token_dir is None: by if True:"
 
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But there is a very easy fix that tells you when you upload a save of the game, you can just follow that and make your cheated save valid

this is what the site says to do and it works:
"Your RenPy version have some save protection, to disable find this file \renpy\savetoken.py and replace if token_dir is None: by if True:"
This looks like something different from what the other guy mentioned. Does it mean the dev is using more than one methods to punish "Unofficial Cheaters". :unsure:

Also, does someone from saveeditionline make this solution specifically for ToS? Or it's actually a widely used "save protection" For RenPy devs, Just like companies use denuvo? Tho ToS is the only RenPy game I saw has this.

Again, they can not really stop people (who know their shit) from tempering, just like there's no stopping pirating. But the dev's gesture says a lot.

Man shits' getting more and more interesting :KEK:
 
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This looks like something different from what the other guy mentioned. Does it mean the dev is using more than one methods to punish "Unofficial Cheaters". :unsure:

Also, does someone from saveeditionline make this solution specifically for ToS? Or it's actually a widely used "save protection" For RenPy devs, Just like companies use denuvo? Tho ToS is the only RenPy game I saw has this.

Again, they can not really stop people (who know their shit) from tempering, just like there's no stopping pirating. But the dev's gesture says a lot.

Man shits' getting more and more interesting :KEK:
I think that's a Renpy feature. I recently did import a foreign save, but only got one warning regarding "be careful about foreign saves/code" and that was it. Save over the file and the warning is no more.

I personally believe that Caro just dislikes people not playing their game like they intended it. Maybe even designed as a trap on his Discord bug channels:
"Hey, I got this 'bug' and my HP reduce to 0 everytime."
"Stop cheating then ha ha ha GOTT'EM!!!"
Something childish like that to feel better for intentionally coding this shit.

If their goal is to let players suffer then they would've added much more suffering content in the first place.
 
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I think that's a Renpy feature. I recently did import a foreign save, but only got one warning regarding "be careful about foreign saves/code" and that was it. Save over the file and the warning is no more.

I personally believe that Caro just dislikes people not playing their game like they intended it. Maybe even designed as a trap on his Discord bug channels:
"Hey, I got this 'bug' and my HP reduce to 0 everytime."
"Stop cheating then ha ha ha GOTT'EM!!!"
Something childish like that to feel better for intentionally coding this shit.

If their goal is to let players suffer then they would've added much more suffering content in the first place.
Funny Gaslighting.
So "Official Cheat" is "intended", but not other cheats that essentially achieve the same thing?

And you think break a save you've been playing on is not suffering enough? In a porn video game that requires excessive grinding?
There are many ways to introduce unharmful troll "trap" that won't hinder players' experience / progression, meanwhile acknowledge the usage of cheats.

But I definitely need to stop here. You do you.
 
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Eggyeggeggy

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I just think it's funny that caro apparently has time for this when he's trying to implement his quirky little combat features while wallowing in supposed mental turmoil that 90% of patreon porn devs suffer from
 

hatesfoxes99

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I just think it's funny that caro apparently has time for this when he's trying to implement his quirky little combat features while wallowing in supposed mental turmoil that 90% of patreon porn devs suffer from
I don't even know why any of the devs try to do combat or excessive grinding in a porn game, by the time you get to a scene your mentally out of it
 
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Eggyeggeggy

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I tried, I got to 2200 something HP and the fight ended prematurely. I don't think it's possible especially with the supposed anti cheat measures.
 
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(2. being prostitute for big mole)
I fight with predetor I try many time what did i do wrong Big mole lust is 85 me 75 and Lose to big mole there nothing happen
My bad, I meant proving your motivation for doing sex work:
Right after escaping your cell you have to tell the mole supervisor that you are a sex worker and then go to the big mole's office which is being pointed out.
 
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skylther

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So...does anyone know if the android version has been fixed? Can android players finally play normally? Or do we have to wair another decade? Ç.ç
 
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