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What I'm saying is something I notice in both versions because it is difficult for him to satisfy Anne, but when he does it with other women he does satisfy them, demonstrating the wear and tear he refers to in the prologue, but the opposite of what I believed, when Anne begins to open up and He finds the space to have sex with other women without any reproach from her, making him feel freer and improving sex between them but with the negative consequence of creating a dangerous distance for the couple, it is a thought that I always had and wanted. share with you :)
Yep broken beyond repair I feel. Sad but its the broken couple, nothing too adventurous about them by the end.
 

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What I'm saying is something I notice in both versions because it is difficult for him to satisfy Anne, but when he does it with other women he does satisfy them, demonstrating the wear and tear he refers to in the prologue, but the opposite of what I believed, when Anne begins to open up and He finds the space to have sex with other women without any reproach from her, making him feel freer and improving sex between them but with the negative consequence of creating a dangerous distance for the couple, it is a thought that I always had and wanted. share with you :)
I think the reason for this was because the game was originally supposed to be full cuckold but the dev, wanting to maximize the player base ($), tried to add elements of sharing (hence the name), cheating, etc. So he had to add the husband having sex with others. He couldn't have the husband be a total limp dick loser unable to satisfy women otherwise the sharing and some cheating aspects wouldn't really make sense. So the husband is good with everyone except the wife in order to maintain the cuckold aspect. As the game progressed, people complained that the game was skewed too much to the wife's side (game was mostly cuckold despite the name and tags saying sharing, etc) so to try to maintain some kind of balance and not lose that demographic, he kept the husband banging others and wanting to hear about her 'adventures' so technically he's a cuck but not a cuck if that makes sense.
 

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I think the reason for this was because the game was originally supposed to be full cuckold but the dev, wanting to maximize the player base ($), tried to add elements of sharing (hence the name), cheating, etc. So he had to add the husband having sex with others. He couldn't have the husband be a total limp dick loser unable to satisfy women otherwise the sharing and some cheating aspects wouldn't really make sense. So the husband is good with everyone except the wife in order to maintain the cuckold aspect. As the game progressed, people complained that the game was skewed too much to the wife's side (game was mostly cuckold despite the name and tags saying sharing, etc) so to try to maintain some kind of balance and not lose that demographic, he kept the husband banging others and wanting to hear about her 'adventures' so technically he's a cuck but not a cuck if that makes sense.
I think when he started trying to do that, is when the problems started. The storylines began crossing over. I'm hoping he can keep them separate in TACOS, so far it seems to be good. I'm in it for the sharing/swinging, I have no interest in the cuck route.
 

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I think when he started trying to do that, is when the problems started. The storylines began crossing over. I'm hoping he can keep them separate in TACOS, so far it seems to be good. I'm in it for the sharing/swinging, I have no interest in the cuck route.
I just hope in the rework there is better dialogue branching. One thing that bugs me on the CH 1-14 version is if you play the faithful husband there is a few times Anne talks / acts like you sleep with other women. The MC doesn't even say anything like he hasn't but just full on agrees with Anne that he he sleept around a few times even tho I haven't on that playthrough.
Yep broken beyond repair I feel. Sad but its the broken couple, nothing too adventurous about them by the end.
I'm hopeful after their second vacation they become less broken since there is a moment they lay everything out in the open and seem to come to a better understanding with one another / reset. Well expect for the stuff with Martin if Anne is on the cheating path. Maybe im too hopeful idk but out of all the couples ive played in AVN's so far MC and Anne are my favorite husband and wife pair they just seem like alot of fun together even tho their lifestyle gets out of hand with the cheating from both sides.
 

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I'm hopeful after their second vacation they become less broken since there is a moment they lay everything out in the open and seem to come to a better understanding with one another / reset. Well expect for the stuff with Martin if Anne is on the cheating path. Maybe im too hopeful idk but out of all the couples ive played in AVN's so far MC and Anne are my favorite husband and wife pair they just seem like alot of fun together even tho their lifestyle gets out of hand with the cheating from both sides.
That reset was literally the one thing that could have set the game on a path where player choice was respected. Instead it was ignored and the hole dug deeper. While TACOS is not at that point yet, the handling of the spa scene does not give me much hope. Agreed on the likeable husband and wife pair and that is what makes derailing of the story hurts more.
 
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That reset was literally the one thing that could have set the game on a path where player choice was respected. Instead it was ignored and the hole dug deeper. While TACOS is not at that point yet, the handling of the spa scene does not give me much hope. Agreed on the likeable husband and wife pair and that is what makes derailing of the story hurts more.
ah I haven't played that far to see how it was ignored yet I recently discovered this game only played up to ch 10 or 11. But I did skipped ahead and spoiled myself a bit out of boredom one night since I was too tired to play but did read a few parts here and there lol. Tho from what I played If I recall there was like a mini reset before that also and seemed Anne ignored what she talked about that night 1/2 of the time. Even tho you said the one during their second vacation was ignored the 2nd did seem like more of a genuine reset at least the way it happened it felt like they will be honestly and open more often than not. But since I haven't played that far it's only my guess from a sneak peak haha.
 
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i think the biggest mistake made in the original story is that Anne and Tony don't really set any ground rules. Tony tells her it turns him on to think of her with other men, but doesn't specify who he wouldn't want her to fuck. specifically family and friends should have been off the table. then when Anne later tells her she is not happy with him fucking his coworkers, she conveniently forgets that she was fucking her boss until he got bored of her. then she fucks him again later after he splits with his wife. so definately the lack of ground rules was a big reason the game went to shit in my opinion. of course there were more.
 

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I see that once again they are not going to have clear rules and as a consequence we are once again going to see a potential disaster for the couple. The only thing I want is at least the story that he wanted to tell and I don't know how much freedom we are going to have to choose. because this game was never characterized by doing that, as long as I have a chance to have my ending with Nicole or Kelsie (what will she look like) I would be satisfied :p
 

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i think the biggest mistake made in the original story is that Anne and Tony don't really set any ground rules. Tony tells her it turns him on to think of her with other men, but doesn't specify who he wouldn't want her to fuck. specifically family and friends should have been off the table. then when Anne later tells her she is not happy with him fucking his coworkers, she conveniently forgets that she was fucking her boss until he got bored of her. then she fucks him again later after he splits with his wife. so definately the lack of ground rules was a big reason the game went to shit in my opinion. of course there were more.
yeah no ground rules didnt help think I mean the MC did tell her a few times just tell him about it a few times before things got out of control which seems she only follows sometimes. But yeah no real ground rules. Then if you go the cheating path MC does tell her how Martin ( his dad) is off the table but seems like she doesn't care and at one point starts to miss him to the point it seems like she starts to care for the dad more than the MC. Tho to be fair that's the cheating route you the player can pick so that makes sense. But to me that whole cheating path made me think even if there was ground rules it might not help that much as we think.

What I think the bigger problem is she went into the whole open relationship stuff too quickly after a certain point. It felt like not only they needed ground rules but ease into some of it a bit slower. While yes she did try to go slow at first but that slow part was ignored entirely on their first vacation because "she doesn't know anyone there". But to me that seemed like it opened a bag of worms more when she got home. while she did go somewhat slow at first when they got back it seemed to me because of all the stuff she did on her vacation made it easier to find a reason to not ease into certain scenario's slowly. If she wanted to do more because how she went wild and did anything whatever she wanted on their first vacation and it was easy for her spiral and just do what she wanted from there and only let her husband know about it some of the time.
 
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yeah no ground rules didnt help think I mean the MC did tell her a few times just tell him about it a few times before things got out of control which seems she only follows sometimes. But yeah no real ground rules. Then if you go the cheating path MC does tell her how Martin ( his dad) is off the table but seems like she doesn't care and at one point starts to miss him to the point it seems like she starts to care for the dad more than the MC. Tho to be fair that's the cheating route you the player can pick so that makes sense. But to me that whole cheating path made me think even if there was ground rules it might not help that much as we think.

What I think the bigger problem is she went into the whole open relationship stuff too quickly after a certain point. It felt like not only they needed ground rules but ease into some of it a bit slower. While yes she did try to go slow at first but that slow part was ignored entirely on their first vacation because "she doesn't know anyone there". But to me that seemed like it opened a bag of worms more when she got home. while she did go somewhat slow at first when they got back it seemed to me because of all the stuff she did on her vacation made it easier to find a reason to not ease into certain scenario's slowly. If she wanted to do more because how she went wild and did anything whatever she wanted on their first vacation and it was easy for her spiral and just do what she wanted from there and only let her husband know about it some of the time.
Good call. No rules is a biggie. When couples start out they usually have a list of rules and that dwindles down to just a couple. As time goes on they become more experienced and more attuned to each others limits. If the couple communicate and do it well, then they may throw out the rules, but by then they know each others boundaries extremely well. For example my wife and I don't have a rule for who we can and cant play with, but both us know full well family and exs crosses the line. We don't need a rule to know that, but getting to that place where you don't need many rules evolves over time not just a few months.

The "She doesn't know anyone there" clause is realistic. When a woman doesn't know anyone there and add some alcohol, panties start falling off all over the place (Not just women in the various lifestyles either). I found they usually return to normal life when they return home. Anne didn't, she just powered on and as you said, opened a bag of worms. That is certainly when things start going off the rails. I think she was still in vacation mode and she didn't even need to add alcohol :LOL:
 
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Gentlemen, I understand and agree with you, but it is a porn video game based on sex and pussy, MC is the good guy and the wife is the bad guy in the game, unlike games made to make the hero win, porn games are made to make the heroes lose good, now the routine is this, MC cuckolded and happy, the wife holds cock trophies, you ask for rules, here we are in the most absolute fiction and imagination, we are aiming and fucking, already thinking that MC you have the possibility of cheating or not, they give you this choice, Anna has no choice, actually if MC opposes, either the game ends or Anna instead of a cock, fucks three handsome black men. More obvious than that.
 
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Gentlemen, I understand and agree with you, but it is a porn video game based on sex and pussy, MC is the good guy and the wife is the bad guy in the game, unlike games made to make the hero win, porn games are made to make the heroes lose good, now the routine is this, MC cuckolded and happy, the wife holds cock trophies, you ask for rules, here we are in the most absolute fiction and imagination, we are aiming and fucking, already thinking that MC you have the possibility of cheating or not, they give you this choice, Anna has no choice, actually if MC opposes, either the game ends or Anna instead of a cock, fucks three handsome black men. More obvious than that.
Your post actually got me curious to do a speed run of a faithful Anne and MC while denying her alot. Honestly that route didnt feel she was that much of a "bad guy" sure there were times where it was unavoidable wasn't very often tho but alot of the time you were able deny her or have Anne decline. So after doing that speed run and while cheating is still cheating it seems like she wasnt that much of a cheat if you don't let her be by denying her or the player declining for her assuming to keep her on the faithful path. Tho i think that also depends on how you define cheating on a open relationship too cause in the case of this game felt like on a non cheating path while yes I did speed run she did tell us about the encounters after the fact most of the time. Only game over I noticed was during the first vacation. But if you are on her cheating path I agree with you she does get that " bad guy" feel.
 
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Gentlemen, I understand and agree with you, but it is a porn video game based on sex and pussy, MC is the good guy and the wife is the bad guy in the game, unlike games made to make the hero win, porn games are made to make the heroes lose good, now the routine is this, MC cuckolded and happy, the wife holds cock trophies, you ask for rules, here we are in the most absolute fiction and imagination, we are aiming and fucking, already thinking that MC you have the possibility of cheating or not, they give you this choice, Anna has no choice, actually if MC opposes, either the game ends or Anna instead of a cock, fucks three handsome black men. More obvious than that.
You're right of course. We had a good erotic story that went the path of the usual stereotypical tropes found in porn as most VNs do. As much as that disappoints me, I know there are some here who still desire to see TACOS redeem the mistakes of TAC. Mircom can make that happen. Its unlikely but you never know as Mircom does pop in on occasion to have a look at what's being said. So I think speculation is not only fun, it may persuade the dev to make some changes going forward as slim a possibility as that is. I have seen it happen before several times so never say never. I know I am a delusional optimist as well as a grumpy old Aussie :LOL:
 

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You're right of course. We had a good erotic story that went the path of the usual stereotypical tropes found in porn as most VNs do. As much as that disappoints me, I know there are some here who still desire to see TACOS redeem the mistakes of TAC. Mircom can make that happen. Its unlikely but you never know as Mircom does pop in on occasion to have a look at what's being said. So I think speculation is not only fun, it may persuade the dev to make some changes going forward as slim a possibility as that is. I have seen it happen before several times so never say never. I know I am a delusional optimist as well as a grumpy old Aussie :LOL:
Out of curiosity when do you think it went downhill because I'm playing my first playthrough slowly I been enjoying every minute of it so I honestly haven't put to much thought in the story or whatever. Only thing so far that has bugged me more than anything else I noticed is certain dialogue that pops up assumes the MC's has done something when in fact I didn't. That or some of that dialogue is there on purpose and is trying to show how the MC and Anne has a lack of communication and just full of assumptions not sure which.

Currently on either chapter 10 or 11
 

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What always interested me is playing her story without all that filler that had no other meaning than to please a group of patrons. I also share the hope that this time it will happen and I am also intrigued by what Kelsie will look like. :love:
To answer the previous comment, the decline began in chapter 10 but it was not until chapter 12 that it became evident. I argued with him on several occasions but he didn't listen. He only reacted when everything went to hell in chapter 15. I hope it helps you.
 

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Out of curiosity when do you think it went downhill because I'm playing my first playthrough slowly I been enjoying every minute of it so I honestly haven't put to much thought in the story or whatever. Only thing so far that has bugged me more than anything else I noticed is certain dialogue that pops up assumes the MC's has done something when in fact I didn't. That or some of that dialogue is there on purpose and is trying to show how the MC and Anne has a lack of communication and just full of assumptions not sure which.

Currently on either chapter 10 or 11
I'd have to agree with Leongen43's answer. Different people have different opinions on when it started. It depends on one's perceptions I suppose. Most agree things were off the rails by ch14.
 
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It's true, chapter 14 was a disaster, we didn't know what story it was telling and the idea of involving incest was the last thing I could endure before stopping being a sponsor. My idea is to come back if I'm sure he understood this time.
We are getting a Kelsie ending like we asked for soooo you never know, only Mircom does.
 
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It's true, chapter 14 was a disaster, we didn't know what story it was telling and the idea of involving incest was the last thing I could endure before stopping being a sponsor. My idea is to come back if I'm sure he understood this time.
oh damn haven't gotten that far yet but damn hope it's optional like with the phone with Anne between her step bro or that other guy forget his name. While incest isn't a turn off for me in these games since I have an open mind I don't go looking for it either and from what I played incest feels like it would be out of place in this game. expect for maybe Anne's step bro not sure didn't play that path yet
 
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