EvolutionKills

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I've said it before: this is a female protag game in which the majority of the narrative is mistakenly given to a male character. Tony is the least interesting person here. It would be so much better if we were privy to more of Anne's thoughts and desires instead of his simple-minded "ya babe, fuck him" BS.

Think about the first Martin scene (in the bathroom). The MC is given a set of choices: to keep Martin out of the shower, to let him in (but no sex), or to have sex with Anne. The latter two choices make absolutely no sense in a story in which Martin already stole his son's girlfriend with the power of his giant schlong. Many, perhaps most, players will go ahead and send him in there anyway, because that's the kind of game it is, but even for a guy with an out of control cuckolding fetish, there's one and only one answer he could rationally give.

Now, reconsider that scene if we're in Anne's head, rather than Tony's. Her husband tells Martin to stay out of the shower, and he does, but she can see that huge dick right there, and she's intrigued. Depending on what she's done, how far Tony's pushed her, how corrupted she is, she might just slip out of bed later that night and crawl into Martin's. A choice she makes, because there's actually a justification for her wanting to fuck him. That reason doesn't exist from Tony's POV. After which all her sneaking around behind her husband's back to bang his dad makes a lot more sense, because now she's addicted.

The same goes for the Dre scene in their apartment. If Tony joins them, she says later that she wishes he hadn't. Nothing at all comes of this, because Tony's an idiot and he doesn't actually care much about what Anne does or doesn't want. Wouldn't that scene be better if Anne was in bed, thinking to herself that she wishes Tony had left her and Dre alone, and plotting to make that happen at some point?

Again: with Ryan, she can cheat on her husband, but the game's ridiculous about setting it up, because the perspective is wrong. Tony has to send Ryan home, and then he has to leave the bar himself. In other words, Tony has to take two actions to make her cheat on him; if he doesn't do those things, there's no way to know whether or not Anne and Ryan fucked. How does that make sense? Ryan should leave the bar for "reasons," Anne should decide that she wants to fuck him, and Tony shouldn't find out until later...and I don't mean the next morning. We can still see the scene if we're playing from Anne's POV, but now there's actual narrative intrigue; we know she's cheated, we can learn why she's cheated, and now that's something she and her husband are going to have to deal with. As it stands, they have a lame breakfast confrontation in which Tony whines that she did something he's not only been begging her to do, but in which he specifically set up the conditions for her to do it. And now he's upset, for about a minute, because she hid it from him. Wouldn't it be so much better if she hid it from him for a long time? If, a few weeks down the road, he was forced to confront the fact that Anne's not really doing this for the sake of his fetish anymore?

I realize why devs don't write female protag games, but this one should be. Or at least dual protag.
I'm pretty sure you just gave that scenario more thought than the dev ever did. :unsure:
 

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The other reason the game shouldn't be told exclusively from Tony's POV is that he doesn't actually care what Anne wants. His thinking never evolves beyond the initial idea: that it would be hot for her to have sex with other people and let him watch/tell him about it. In the beginning, he pushes and pushes and pushes (despite her reluctance) until she finally starts giving in. Once she goes all the way, he simply expects it of her. He gets less and less involved with her activities as the story goes on, and a large percentage of the ideas and adventures are actually initiated by Anne. Meanwhile, he's doing all sorts of things he shouldn't — having sex with masseuses, waitresses, his ex, coworkers she specifically asked him not to have sex with, her best friend without clearing it in advance (even though she's okay with it), and so forth — and usually not even bothering to lie about it; he just doesn't tell her.

The story stops being about Tony's cuckold fetish pretty early on; most of what's happening on the screen is strictly for the players' enjoyment, which is one of the many ways the story went off the rails. But someone does have reasons for what they're doing or not doing, and that's Anne. Which is why we should be in her head, not her husband's. Especially because he's a moron.
 

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The other reason the game shouldn't be told exclusively from Tony's POV is that he doesn't actually care what Anne wants. His thinking never evolves beyond the initial idea: that it would be hot for her to have sex with other people and let him watch/tell him about it. In the beginning, he pushes and pushes and pushes (despite her reluctance) until she finally starts giving in. Once she goes all the way, he simply expects it of her. He gets less and less involved with her activities as the story goes on, and a large percentage of the ideas and adventures are actually initiated by Anne. Meanwhile, he's doing all sorts of things he shouldn't — having sex with masseuses, waitresses, his ex, coworkers she specifically asked him not to have sex with, her best friend without clearing it in advance (even though she's okay with it), and so forth — and usually not even bothering to lie about it; he just doesn't tell her.

The story stops being about Tony's cuckold fetish pretty early on; most of what's happening on the screen is strictly for the players' enjoyment, which is one of the many ways the story went off the rails. But someone does have reasons for what they're doing or not doing, and that's Anne. Which is why we should be in her head, not her husband's. Especially because he's a moron.
I mean they're both pretty vapid, it's not like anne really cares about his wishes; I remember playing it the first time and chuckling when you dont wanna go to the shoe store and you go anyway, or you turn down the first vacation waiter and she gets all butthurt.

Face it, both characters are kiddie-pool-deep, and that's not always a bad thing, this is a porn game after all..

Nothing that either of them does indicates to me they actually care about one another, but until nothing is forever or life worth living releases an update, I have to post here :ROFLMAO:
 

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Anne hesitates at the beginning of the game, but it is Tony who manipulates her and pushes her into the arms of other guys. He created the monster slut Turbo Anne who fucks everything that is out of his control. And then Tony goes sideways. For me it was hopeless because they stopped working as a couple. Tony the idiot has been outsmarted by Martin twice, of course it all depends on our choices. Tony should say you stole my girlfriend, just try to steal my wife and I'll kill you.
 
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With the doctor, Anna cheats on the front desk guy, with the guy on the beach in the gazebo, and a few others, and she never tells Tony about them, it's cheating. Statistics are broken, should change that Anna is unfaithful. And your explanation that it's personal, hopeless crap you're telling.
By the time all the events you mention happen, Anne and Tony are in an open relationship, so it can't be cheating. Anne has a free pass to have sex with whoever she wants, and she doesn't need to tell Tony about them if she doesn't feel like it, and vice versa he is able to do the same with other women. We know this because Tony himself has sex with various women and never tells Anne about them. This suggests there is an unspoken agreement between the two of them, to only tell each other about their individual sexual encounters if they want to.

If what you said was correct, then both Tony and Anne would get extremely upset when they found out about the other person's sexual encounters, and yet the only time that happened was when Tony found out about Anne having sex with Martin. On every other occasion, both Tony and Anne pretty much accepted the revelation calmly and without any indication that they considered the other person to have cheated. That may be your interpretation, but it's not how Tony or Anne view it.
 
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Regardless of the merits or faults of this game. What I don't understand is the need for yet another revamp. It seems to me, that the Dev doesn't have any longterm plan for this game, which is maybe why he keeps falling back to revamps of older content? Why not end the game first, and then revamp it when it's completed? He could probably end it, in a few more updates if he really wanted to. At the present rate of ten days per update, it's going to take another 9 updates at least, to get up to date. Which probably means 2 years without any continuation of the game. I can't imagine any of his patrons are that interested in another revamp, that they're willing to wait two years to get further progress in the game?
 
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Tony should say you stole my girlfriend, just try to steal my wife and I'll kill you.
This leads again in a nonsense in the storyline... Martin appearas in the CH9 Tony invited Martin to go in the bathroom
Martin appears at the end of the chapter 7 and Anne and Tony are on the "same page"
Anne has already had sex with about 10 men and she in many cases most of the time she decides who she wants to have sex with.
but she is not forced to tell tony everything... there are options where Tony can choose not to let Anne tell about what she did.
It seems to me that you want to tell Mircom the same things that led him to the decision to write the original story of this legendary couple...

I'm not sure but I'm afraid you will be disappointed again with Tacos
 
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This leads again in a nonsense in the storyline... Martin appearas in the CH9 Tony invited Martin to go in the bathroom
Martin appears at the end of the chapter 7 and Anne and Tony are on the "same page"
Anne has already had sex with about 10 men and she in many cases most of the time she decides who she wants to have sex with.
but she is not forced to tell tony everything... there are options where Tony can choose not to let Anne tell about what she did.
It seems to me that you want to tell Mircom the same things that led him to the decision to write the original story of this legendary couple...

I'm not sure but I'm afraid you will be disappointed again with Tacos
I'm not surprised that the topic of Martin always comes up. :ROFLMAO:You show up here. I ask the developer a question and I know I'm going to like Tacos. I have to post my questions here and his answers.
 
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By the time all the events you mention happen, Anne and Tony are in an open relationship, so it can't be cheating. Anne has a free pass to have sex with whoever she wants, and she doesn't need to tell Tony about them if she doesn't feel like it, and vice versa he is able to do the same with other women. We know this because Tony himself has sex with various women and never tells Anne about them. This suggests there is an unspoken agreement between the two of them, to only tell each other about their individual sexual encounters if they want to.

If what you said was correct, then both Tony and Anne would get extremely upset when they found out about the other person's sexual encounters, and yet the only time that happened was when Tony found out about Anne having sex with Martin. On every other occasion, both Tony and Anne pretty much accepted the revelation calmly and without any indication that they considered the other person to have cheated. That may be your interpretation, but it's not how Tony or Anne view it.

It think the calm acceptance is less an active considered choice by the author to depict two adult well fleshed out characters trying to make an open relationship work, and more so that actually having either of them respond in anger would threaten to derail what little narrative is there.

It's not thoughtfulness, but rather the opposite, in that the author never actually intended to explore the logical conclusions of their actions. That's why they kiss and make up and it all gets brushed under the rug, cause actually dealing with it head on in a way that made sense or had any consequences would be hard.

They act like they do to maintain the status quo.
 
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By the time all the events you mention happen, Anne and Tony are in an open relationship, so it can't be cheating. Anne has a free pass to have sex with whoever she wants, and she doesn't need to tell Tony about them if she doesn't feel like it, and vice versa he is able to do the same with other women. We know this because Tony himself has sex with various women and never tells Anne about them. This suggests there is an unspoken agreement between the two of them, to only tell each other about their individual sexual encounters if they want to.

If what you said was correct, then both Tony and Anne would get extremely upset when they found out about the other person's sexual encounters, and yet the only time that happened was when Tony found out about Anne having sex with Martin. On every other occasion, both Tony and Anne pretty much accepted the revelation calmly and without any indication that they considered the other person to have cheated. That may be your interpretation, but it's not how Tony or Anne view it.
Anne cares who Tony fucks only once, she tells him she can't fuck her co-workers and then she gets unfaithful status which isn't illogical because then. Anne doesn't care anymore and doesn't ask Tony who she's fucking with. With these people, Tony can make a baby, but Anne doesn't care anymore. Strange to me
 

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Regardless of the merits or faults of this game. What I don't understand is the need for yet another revamp. It seems to me, that the Dev doesn't have any longterm plan for this game, which is maybe why he keeps falling back to revamps of older content? Why not end the game first, and then revamp it when it's completed? He could probably end it, in a few more updates if he really wanted to. At the present rate of ten days per update, it's going to take another 9 updates at least, to get up to date. Which probably means 2 years without any continuation of the game. I can't imagine any of his patrons are that interested in another revamp, that they're willing to wait two years to get further progress in the game?
I do not agree with you in this because for first...
1) that's why the dev started a new game with the female lead Christina
and
2) Tacos is coming with better renderings and more detailed sex scenes to avoid the misunderstandings that have been created in facts that the developer described well in his January 17 post on his patreon page
3) as you can see in the Tacos stats box there is no more swinging/sharing points... so the game is focused on the original Title that was "the Cuckold"

deciding to just watching is almost the same as participating and masturbating while watching in the same room of the sex action is also a way to join Anne and her new partner...
just this makes Tacos very interesting for old fans like me! And I'm sure with the next update will be much clear to anyone.

4) at this point for his fans that support him for more than 5 years waiting (you said 2 years) I think in max 1 Year this game will be ready... but if 2 Years will not be a problem for the fans

I remind you that more than 50/60% or maybe more are ready for the whole game up to CH15 and I think about 20% will not be in the new game,,, I also think that the new renders will be no more than 20/30%
Dialogues will be much better and useless choices will be removed....only 2 main paths: Anne faithful/unfaithful mixed with Tony faithful/unfaithful ... Tony will be a cuckold in both paths with maybe different amount of points

Finally there won't be the useless scenes that Mircom had chosen to do to follow wrong advice
I have already talked about this in about 2 or 3 of my previous posts
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-adventurous-couple-tacos-part-1-mircom3d.7192/post-10166037
and
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-adventurous-couple-tacos-part-1-mircom3d.7192/post-10173712

you are free to quote some part of them

I'm sure the dev will have success and it looks like a his supporters are growing up.(he always had about 300/400 supporters with ups and down)

The dev now has the experience of a professional developer and won't make the same mistakes as in the past

I'm looking forward to see the next Tacos update
 
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These are my questions to the developer and his answers

Hi, I have some questions about TACOS


1. Will Tony finally be able to fuck the first boss's wife, Anne, while she fucks him? Why I couldn't do it in your game. It was asking for it?

Yes Kenny and Candace play a much bigger roll in the original story. Candace will be available to fuck.


2. Will we finally have full control over Anne or will she again be a slut who fucks everything that moves and we watch her fuck guys we would never choose, like dirty homeless people That we didn't have full control over Ania, that was the worst part of your game.

Some control yes over her decisions. Not complete control. Some actions of hers will be dependent on "cheat" or not.


3. Will the stats be improved? Anna cheats with the doctor, the receptionist, the guy on the beach in the gazebo and a few others and the stats will not change always faithful but should change to unfaithful

The stats will be more accurate yes.


4. Will in-game choices matter? because they haven't had one recently. I rejected Martin and got him back in Ch15. I didn't want Anne not to work at Uncle Tony's bar, the game ignored my choice and Anne worked there and tricked Tony not telling him what she was going to do there and Tony the idiot didn't ask why, which was hopeless. Will I be able to turn down characters I don't want Anne to fuck? A doctor who haunts me at night, a guest from the reception, a guest from the beach in Altana and a few others

Choices will matter and play a big part in how Anne behaves


5 I wish they would act as a couple more often and do more together. Since they started operating alone they have lost the sense of being a couple has been lost and the game should be called "Happy Adventures of Worhe Anne"

I agree, I want to have them be more of The Adventurous Couple I had invisioned.


6. Anne has different partners and fucks old and young guys with different body types. Tony has very few girls and women to fuck. I counted 5 mature women. I wish Tony had as many women to fuck as Anne had guys of all ages and . Mature young, older women

I will try to even that out.


7. I would like the routes to be different from each other, e.g. when I'm on a swing tour, I don't mix that tour with another tour like you did recently in your game. I was on a faithful route, but I had a fraudulent route

Agree,

8. These are the sentences the couple get from this forum, I never understood what they were for. They may not perform these tasks at all, they get nothing for them. This is redundant, or while it should provide stat points for being faithful or unfaithful, it would be more logical.

It’s not meant to be something that has a tangible payoff or payout. It’s about opening up Anne and the couple to adventurous sexy things to try out and become more free.
This idea was taken from a real life group that my wife and I were a part of.


9. What will be the endings good - Anne gets pregnant with Tony, bad - the couple divorces

There will be multiple endings. Good and Bad

10. Will we have a choice or do we want Anne to work at Uncle Tony's club?

This is far in future but their will be choices as to how she behaves in the club.

11. Why don't I have swing stats in the new game?

Swing stats will come later in the game.

12. Will I have a choice so that Anna doesn't finally fuck the doctor?

Yes, just for you lol. But all kidding ashes the choice will be given to the players for that scene.

13. Will there be a dialogue of Anne's thoughts ?

For some scenes yes, but not for all.

14. So if I understand TACOS correctly! the first week of the game will be the same and the rest of the chapters will be completely different? with new scene selections and dialogue? one you've always wanted to make but never added your ideas to the game?


First couple weeks will be the same with some new scenes added and old ones reworked. Going forward from that part will be a mix of old and new. Some of the old scenes were definitely planned but a lot were not.
There will be more with Nicole, Kenny and Candace, Erik, Dre and of course Martin. These are mainstay characters who's stories will progress.


15. So if I don't pick one of those characters like Martin, I won't have him. I meant more that if I don't pick one of these characters, Anne doesn't cheat with them?

They’ll still be there as they are part of the story but the “hot” scenes won’t be available. Correct!
 

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I think what we're seeing in some of these latter comments is something of a stratification based on age, or maturity level (don't mean that in a negative way). This entire site if full of games catering to someone less than 21 or so. No substance, virtually no grounding in reality. That's odd to me as I don't see that as the demographic that has a lot of money.

This game, however, at least flirts with concepts beyond that age. In doing so, I think it's natural to attract those like me whose twenties are in the rear view mirror. But with that attraction we expect a more nuanced and natural mindset from the characters. Although I have never been in an open relationship, from everything I've read and experienced the way this story is written the relationship would have about a snowballs chance of surviving because of the lack of structure in their sharing. Again, this entire exercise would benefit from some introspection and reflection.
 

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These are my questions to the developer and his answers

Hi, I have some questions about TACOS


1. Will Tony finally be able to fuck the first boss's wife, Anne, while she fucks him? Why I couldn't do it in your game. It was asking for it?

Yes Kenny and Candace play a much bigger roll in the original story. Candace will be available to fuck.


2. Will we finally have full control over Anne or will she again be a slut who fucks everything that moves and we watch her fuck guys we would never choose, like dirty homeless people That we didn't have full control over Ania, that was the worst part of your game.

Some control yes over her decisions. Not complete control. Some actions of hers will be dependent on "cheat" or not.


3. Will the stats be improved? Anna cheats with the doctor, the receptionist, the guy on the beach in the gazebo and a few others and the stats will not change always faithful but should change to unfaithful

The stats will be more accurate yes.


4. Will in-game choices matter? because they haven't had one recently. I rejected Martin and got him back in Ch15. I didn't want Anne not to work at Uncle Tony's bar, the game ignored my choice and Anne worked there and tricked Tony not telling him what she was going to do there and Tony the idiot didn't ask why, which was hopeless. Will I be able to turn down characters I don't want Anne to fuck? A doctor who haunts me at night, a guest from the reception, a guest from the beach in Altana and a few others

Choices will matter and play a big part in how Anne behaves


5 I wish they would act as a couple more often and do more together. Since they started operating alone they have lost the sense of being a couple has been lost and the game should be called "Happy Adventures of Worhe Anne"

I agree, I want to have them be more of The Adventurous Couple I had invisioned.


6. Anne has different partners and fucks old and young guys with different body types. Tony has very few girls and women to fuck. I counted 5 mature women. I wish Tony had as many women to fuck as Anne had guys of all ages and . Mature young, older women

I will try to even that out.


7. I would like the routes to be different from each other, e.g. when I'm on a swing tour, I don't mix that tour with another tour like you did recently in your game. I was on a faithful route, but I had a fraudulent route

Agree,

8. These are the sentences the couple get from this forum, I never understood what they were for. They may not perform these tasks at all, they get nothing for them. This is redundant, or while it should provide stat points for being faithful or unfaithful, it would be more logical.

It’s not meant to be something that has a tangible payoff or payout. It’s about opening up Anne and the couple to adventurous sexy things to try out and become more free.
This idea was taken from a real life group that my wife and I were a part of.


9. What will be the endings good - Anne gets pregnant with Tony, bad - the couple divorces

There will be multiple endings. Good and Bad

10. Will we have a choice or do we want Anne to work at Uncle Tony's club?

This is far in future but their will be choices as to how she behaves in the club.

11. Why don't I have swing stats in the new game?

Swing stats will come later in the game.

12. Will I have a choice so that Anna doesn't finally fuck the doctor?

Yes, just for you lol. But all kidding ashes the choice will be given to the players for that scene.

13. Will there be a dialogue of Anne's thoughts ?

For some scenes yes, but not for all.

14. So if I understand TACOS correctly! the first week of the game will be the same and the rest of the chapters will be completely different? with new scene selections and dialogue? one you've always wanted to make but never added your ideas to the game?


First couple weeks will be the same with some new scenes added and old ones reworked. Going forward from that part will be a mix of old and new. Some of the old scenes were definitely planned but a lot were not.
There will be more with Nicole, Kenny and Candace, Erik, Dre and of course Martin. These are mainstay characters who's stories will progress.


15. So if I don't pick one of those characters like Martin, I won't have him. I meant more that if I don't pick one of these characters, Anne doesn't cheat with them?

They’ll still be there as they are part of the story but the “hot” scenes won’t be available. Correct!
Wow, can’t believe he answered all those questions for you. Good job and good questions by the way, now let’s play and see if they’re true. Oh I also would have asked him if Annes pussy will have the bbc magnet removed so she can actually walk by one without jumping on his dick, also will Tony ever get a chance to fuck that lawyer by his old office or that hotty from vaccation that he always saw when getting coffee?
 
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Wow, can’t believe he answered all those questions for you. Good job and good questions by the way, now let’s play and see if they’re true. Oh I also would have asked him if Annes pussy will have the bbc magnet removed so she can actually walk by one without jumping on his dick, also will Tony ever get a chance to fuck that lawyer by his old office or that hotty from vaccation that he always saw when getting coffee?
yeah, so many wasted characters. There was also that waitress in the beginning who just disappeared and was replaced.
 

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I think what we're seeing in some of these latter comments is something of a stratification based on age, or maturity level (don't mean that in a negative way). This entire site if full of games catering to someone less than 21 or so. No substance, virtually no grounding in reality. That's odd to me as I don't see that as the demographic that has a lot of money.
I dunno, how many people actually read Playboy unironically for the articles? From what I remember, they had a pretty crack editorial staff (kinda like how Buzzfeed is now, even though most know of them as the stupid quiz website), but it largely wasn't what they were known for outside of those already in the know.

But yeah, mid-30's here, and I do unironically play these games more for the story than anything else. The titillation is fun, but it's fun in the way Game of Thrones was; but the reason folks got hooked on that series was the characters and narrative, the occasional tiddie was just a bonus.

I do think however there is a general lack of maturity among this whole sub-genre, as seen in the premise of many games, their protagonists, and even down to the actions of the developers themselves. Lots of games about cringey twenty-something losers who look and act like dumb pre-teens while they trip into unearned pussy left and right. The barrier to entry is low, the standards are rock bottom (NTR focused games are largely slop in the trough of the NTR fanboy hogs), and the allure of Patreon funding is high. Not exactly the sort of environment that attracts and fosters an abundance of auteur talent.
 

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I do not agree with you in this because for first...
1) that's why the dev started a new game with the female lead Christina
and
2) Tacos is coming with better renderings and more detailed sex scenes to avoid the misunderstandings that have been created in facts that the developer described well in his January 17 post on his patreon page
3) as you can see in the Tacos stats box there is no more swinging/sharing points... so the game is focused on the original Title that was "the Cuckold"

deciding to just watching is almost the same as participating and masturbating while watching in the same room of the sex action is also a way to join Anne and her new partner...
just this makes Tacos very interesting for old fans like me! And I'm sure with the next update will be much clear to anyone.

4) at this point for his fans that support him for more than 5 years waiting (you said 2 years) I think in max 1 Year this game will be ready... but if 2 Years will not be a problem for the fans

I remind you that more than 50/60% or maybe more are ready for the whole game up to CH15 and I think about 20% will not be in the new game,,, I also think that the new renders will be no more than 20/30%
Dialogues will be much better and useless choices will be removed....only 2 main paths: Anne faithful/unfaithful mixed with Tony faithful/unfaithful ... Tony will be a cuckold in both paths with maybe different amount of points

Finally there won't be the useless scenes that Mircom had chosen to do to follow wrong advice
I have already talked about this in about 2 or 3 of my previous posts
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-adventurous-couple-tacos-part-1-mircom3d.7192/post-10166037
and
https://f95zone.to/threads/the-adventurous-couple-tacos-part-1-mircom3d.7192/post-10173712

you are free to quote some part of them

I'm sure the dev will have success and it looks like a his supporters are growing up.(he always had about 300/400 supporters with ups and down)

The dev now has the experience of a professional developer and won't make the same mistakes as in the past

I'm looking forward to see the next Tacos update
All of what you say may be correct. I don't know, because I haven't played the new version, and I haven't decided whether I will yet. I just don't see any point in starting again, and just making a load of cosmetic changes, and having to wait years to get any further in the storyline. Is this really a genuine attempt to tidy up the game, or just another excuse to procrastinate, because we've been there before haven't we?

If what you say is correct and we get an improved game, that finally makes sense, because in a lot of places it currently doesn't. Then I'm all for that, and maybe, just maybe, it will be worth the wait. But for the moment I'm going to reserve judgement, because this Dev's last attempt to revamp the game, was a major disappointment.

For me personally, I don't need the Dev to go back and correct all the bad parts of the game ( at least not now anyway). I'd prefer it, if he just got on with the game, and completed it. Because it doesn't need to be perfect for me to enjoy it. And I think if you've played this game for a long time and you're still playing it, regardless of all it's faults, then those imperfections are not a dealbreaker when it comes to enjoying it. So why is it so necessary to go back and change those things right now?
 

88stanford88

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This game, however, at least flirts with concepts beyond that age. In doing so, I think it's natural to attract those like me whose twenties are in the rear view mirror. But with that attraction we expect a more nuanced and natural mindset from the characters. Although I have never been in an open relationship, from everything I've read and experienced the way this story is written the relationship would have about a snowballs chance of surviving because of the lack of structure in their sharing. Again, this entire exercise would benefit from some introspection and reflection.
Surely the choice to write Tacos with more dialogues and renders follows your discourse of more introspection ... however the story is based on a couple who have been married for 5 years ... and important... they have no children.
I don't know many childless couples who after 5 years of marriage continue to be together if they don't find an alternative way to motivate the continuation of their relationship...
Usually they become animal rights activists and I have neighbors who have about 15 dogs, cats and birds... they dedicate all day to taking care of and collecting animals

what I mean is that many comments fail to put themselves in the shoes of a couple and what it means to have a relationship that after 5 years has produced nothing ... many do not realize the boredom that a relationship of this type may cause

I believe that this story is very believable by following and reading the dialogues between them well and that one of the possible endings could just be that Anne gets pregnant or that it turns out that one or both of them are unable to have children for some health reason
I don't think they are into introspection and reflection...
I believe that when you are 25/27 years old (considering college finished around 22) the couple is trying to stay together and they decide how to do it.... I already described the only event that for me can change the status quo of their relationship---
they can also decide to divorce at the end ... but this would be a bust for both Tony and Anne
 
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Zara Scarlet

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These are my questions to the developer and his answers

Hi, I have some questions about TACOS


1. Will Tony finally be able to fuck the first boss's wife, Anne, while she fucks him? Why I couldn't do it in your game. It was asking for it?

Yes Kenny and Candace play a much bigger roll in the original story. Candace will be available to fuck.


2. Will we finally have full control over Anne or will she again be a slut who fucks everything that moves and we watch her fuck guys we would never choose, like dirty homeless people That we didn't have full control over Ania, that was the worst part of your game.

Some control yes over her decisions. Not complete control. Some actions of hers will be dependent on "cheat" or not.


3. Will the stats be improved? Anna cheats with the doctor, the receptionist, the guy on the beach in the gazebo and a few others and the stats will not change always faithful but should change to unfaithful

The stats will be more accurate yes.


4. Will in-game choices matter? because they haven't had one recently. I rejected Martin and got him back in Ch15. I didn't want Anne not to work at Uncle Tony's bar, the game ignored my choice and Anne worked there and tricked Tony not telling him what she was going to do there and Tony the idiot didn't ask why, which was hopeless. Will I be able to turn down characters I don't want Anne to fuck? A doctor who haunts me at night, a guest from the reception, a guest from the beach in Altana and a few others

Choices will matter and play a big part in how Anne behaves


5 I wish they would act as a couple more often and do more together. Since they started operating alone they have lost the sense of being a couple has been lost and the game should be called "Happy Adventures of Worhe Anne"

I agree, I want to have them be more of The Adventurous Couple I had invisioned.


6. Anne has different partners and fucks old and young guys with different body types. Tony has very few girls and women to fuck. I counted 5 mature women. I wish Tony had as many women to fuck as Anne had guys of all ages and . Mature young, older women

I will try to even that out.


7. I would like the routes to be different from each other, e.g. when I'm on a swing tour, I don't mix that tour with another tour like you did recently in your game. I was on a faithful route, but I had a fraudulent route

Agree,

8. These are the sentences the couple get from this forum, I never understood what they were for. They may not perform these tasks at all, they get nothing for them. This is redundant, or while it should provide stat points for being faithful or unfaithful, it would be more logical.

It’s not meant to be something that has a tangible payoff or payout. It’s about opening up Anne and the couple to adventurous sexy things to try out and become more free.
This idea was taken from a real life group that my wife and I were a part of.


9. What will be the endings good - Anne gets pregnant with Tony, bad - the couple divorces

There will be multiple endings. Good and Bad

10. Will we have a choice or do we want Anne to work at Uncle Tony's club?

This is far in future but their will be choices as to how she behaves in the club.

11. Why don't I have swing stats in the new game?

Swing stats will come later in the game.

12. Will I have a choice so that Anna doesn't finally fuck the doctor?

Yes, just for you lol. But all kidding ashes the choice will be given to the players for that scene.

13. Will there be a dialogue of Anne's thoughts ?

For some scenes yes, but not for all.

14. So if I understand TACOS correctly! the first week of the game will be the same and the rest of the chapters will be completely different? with new scene selections and dialogue? one you've always wanted to make but never added your ideas to the game?


First couple weeks will be the same with some new scenes added and old ones reworked. Going forward from that part will be a mix of old and new. Some of the old scenes were definitely planned but a lot were not.
There will be more with Nicole, Kenny and Candace, Erik, Dre and of course Martin. These are mainstay characters who's stories will progress.


15. So if I don't pick one of those characters like Martin, I won't have him. I meant more that if I don't pick one of these characters, Anne doesn't cheat with them?

They’ll still be there as they are part of the story but the “hot” scenes won’t be available. Correct!
This all seems very good. But the question is, will the Dev be able to make all of this work, without making the errors he has made repeatedly throughout the duration of this game? As recently as Chapter 15, he made a complete mess of everything, as you pointed out. It's not inspiring me with a lot of confidence, that he's going to be able to achieve what he claims above. We could end up with another revamp, that's no better than what we currently have. Making a lot of changes to the game, means a lot of potential to screw things up even more, So until I see something different that tells me the Dev has learned from past mistakes, I'm going to take all of the above with a huge pinch of salt.

If he's going to devote a load of time revamping the game, then he has to get it right, so that this isn't another massive waste of time. So far the changes seem to have been fairly cosmetic, and therefore less potential to fuck things up. But after the first few weeks, it appears we're going to get a lot more revamped content, and that's when things could start to go wrong again, if the Dev hasn't learned from the errors he's made in the past.

The Dev claims he wants Anne and Tony to be the couple he originally envisioned them to be. But it was him who made them into the couple they've become and nobody else. If he wanted them to be different, then why didn't he make them that way? That statement makes no sense whatsoever. And when he starts saying stuff like that, I start thinking does this guy really have a clear vision for this game?
 
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