VN Ren'Py The Adventurous Couple [TACOS S2 P4a] [Mircom3D]

[BlenderGuy]

The terms have changed a little since fetishes have gotten involved I.e the humiliation side of it etc but generally

A Cuckold is a husband to an adultress wife
A Wittol is a knowing husband to an adultress wife
A Cuckqueen is a wife to adultress husband
A Cuckoldress is the adultress wife
A Bull is the guy the wife is sleeping with

Now generally based on these somewhat archaic terms it could be considered both Tony and Anne are there respected Cucks as soon an the other cheats on them...

But in terms of porn/fetishes and the likes the cucks become someone who likes to watch there partners have sex. Again not really with the humiation aspect...

Wittol is a word I've never heard of before in my entire life.

Does the wife have to share evidence of the other man, for that man to be a Bull?
As in, is the term "Bull" used as a means of further humiliating the husband?


When I travelled for work in an former job, it was common for me and my friends to sleep with older women, who'd flip their wedding rings.

They'd all be hanging around in these little village pubs.
Their husbands/boyfriends were either at home, working away (like us) or on holiday with their mates.
Do they come under any of these? Also, although I had a large body count back then, I never considered myself a Bull, lol.

For me, a Bull is a guy who was clearly born to stretch a woman to her limits of pleasure.

As opposed to a guy like me, banging away, but with very little progress.

 

[Lagunavii]

Wittol is a word I've never heard of before in my entire life.

It's a very archaic term, it's said to come from a condensing of willing cuckold. Essentially in the original terms if a cuckold is someone who doesn't know there wife if being adultress a Wittol is a husband who knows she's cheating but puts up with it anyway...

It's not really a term that's thrown around now because when you say cuckold today you think a man watching his wife have sex, so course he knows.

Does the wife have to share evidence of the other man, for that man to be a Bull?
As in, is the term "Bull" used as a means of further humiliating the husband?

There may be more to bull than I know, perhaps drawing the term from the farming sense, ie a bull with fuck any cow.. But for me Yeah Bull is definitely more from the fetish side. It comes into play more with humiliation. That sorta, he's bigger than you mentality. Etc

They'd all be hanging around in these little village pubs.
Their husbands/boyfriends were either at home, working away (like us) or on holiday with their mates.
Do they come under any of these? Also, although I had a large body count back then, I never considered myself a Bull, lol.

Yes in the basic terms of things. Those woman were cucking there husbands. I myself would never consider you bull as I think the husband needs to be aware for you to be a bull - in terms of fetishes, some would argue they were just cheating and there was no Cuckholding involved, as the partners were not in the room.

 

[Adhdclassic]

A bull is a big dick alpha male.

 

[Lagunavii]

There's also the terms Stag and Vixen and depending on your path could actually apply to Tony and Anne better than the Cuck titles.

Essentially this is just Cuckolding without the humiliation that generally comes with the term these days. A man (the stag) who likes to watch his wife (the vixen) have sex with anybody and sometimes join in... Essentially the "hot wife"

 

[TonyMurray]

This makes it a bit better, just to be sure you can reach and hopefully progress on the cuckquean route without having anne fuck any other men right?

You can definitely reach the opening of the cuckquean route without Anne fucking anyone but you. I didn't test beyond that to see if you can get from there to the current update without her fucking anyone else, but I would presume you can. As mentioned, the cuckquean route doesn't currently have any content though, beyond Anne watching you get a blowjob from another woman, and then joining in with some blowing and sex (all from the other side of a bathroom stall via a gloryhole).

 

[Radnos Salazar]

You can definitely reach the opening of the cuckquean route without Anne fucking anyone but you. I didn't test beyond that to see if you can get from there to the current update without her fucking anyone else, but I would presume you can. As mentioned, the cuckquean route doesn't currently have any content though, beyond Anne watching you get a blowjob from another woman, and then joining in with some blowing and sex (all from the other side of a bathroom stall via a gloryhole).

Yeah, this game is at a very early stage, that route will surely expand and get more content, i just dont want it to have other variables like mandatory sharing of Anne.

 

[BlenderGuy]

It's a very archaic term, it's said to come from a condensing of willing cuckold. Essentially in the original terms if a cuckold is someone who doesn't know there wife if being adultress a Wittol is a husband who knows she's cheating but puts up with it anyway...

It's not really a term that's thrown around now because when you say cuckold today you think a man watching his wife have sex, so course he knows.



There may be more to bull than I know, perhaps drawing the term from the farming sense, ie a bull with fuck any cow.. But for me Yeah Bull is definitely more from the fetish side. It comes into play more with humiliation. That sorta, he's bigger than you mentality. Etc



Yes in the basic terms of things. Those woman were cucking there husbands. I myself would never consider you bull as I think the husband needs to be aware for you to be a bull - in terms of fetishes, some would argue they were just cheating and there was no Cuckholding involved, as the partners were not in the room.

Thanks for clearing all that up. If I ever did make a game related to this fascinating subject, I'd hate to mess it up.

Final question. Games related to hotwife/cucking tend to start with the husband pushing their wife into trying it.
With the wife enjoying it so much they end up effectively cheating on the husband with the guy who pleases them most sexually. Do you think that's the logical conclusion to such a relationship?

 

[Lagunavii]

You can definitely reach the opening of the cuckquean route without Anne fucking anyone but you.

But you can't get there without Anne at least doing something sexual to someone right? I mean you can't avoid the handjob in the Spa? There's the pizza guys wheee you choose how far Anne goes, but she has to do something right? Is Anne's boss another?

 

[sagerock820]

The terms have changed a little since fetishes have gotten involved I.e the humiliation side of it etc but generally

A Cuckold is a husband to an adultress wife
A Wittol is a knowing husband to an adultress wife
A Cuckqueen is a wife to adultress husband
A Cuckoldress is the adultress wife
A Bull is the guy the wife is sleeping with

Now generally based on these somewhat archaic terms it could be considered both Tony and Anne are there respected Cucks as soon an the other cheats on them...

But in terms of porn/fetishes and the likes the cucks become someone who likes to watch there partners have sex. Again not really with the humiation aspect...

I hate pigeon-holing stuff into groups. Not everything has to have a 'name' assigned to it. Just my opinion.

It also fascinates me how much time people spend thinking about and analyzing an AVN.

 

[Lagunavii]

Thanks for clearing all that up. If I ever did make a game related to this fascinating subject, I'd hate to mess it up.

Final question. Games related to hotwife/cucking tend to start with the husband pushing their wife into trying it.
With the wife enjoying it so much they end up effectively cheating on the husband with the guy who pleases them most sexually. Do you think that's the logical conclusion to such a relationship?

This is always the danger. And this game is a fine example.

Tony and Anne have been married for a while, the sex has become boring, Tony encourages Anne, Anne sleeps around, Anne enjoys sex again...

Now you can order what's the thing missing in Anne having sex and now enjoying it and say it's Tony so they are not suitable. You could argue no having sex with the same person just gets boring and it's the freshness of a new person.

I generally haven't been in these types of circles since my last partner died. I know couples who have made it work, I know couples who haven't generally if you set firm rules and stick to them you're fine...

The logical conclusion the paths to are I think as follows

The HotWife Path/Swingers path - this should end with both Tony and Anne still together embracing there sexuality, fantasies andbkinks

Anne Cheating Path - this will either end in divorce, or Anne leaving Tony for Martin, Drake Ryan etc etc it could have Tony being an ultimate cuck to bebfair

Both cheating path - should end in divorce regardless, the couple clearly aren't into each other

 

[Lagunavii]

I hate pigeon-holing stuff into groups. Not everything has to have a 'name' assigned to it. Just my opinion.

It also fascinates me how much time people spend thinking about and analyzing an AVN.

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You are quite right, it's difficult to pigeon hole with these terms... Esp given in today's world some of the words have different meanings depending on your age and understanding

I.e to me a cuckold is a husband of a cheating wife... But to someone a little younger it might well be a small ducked man who gets humiliated by his wife.

We weren't exactly analysing the game. Blender hadn't heard of the terms so was informed... Now now we both know there's only one real person who really analyizes this game.

I mean there's nothing wrong with taking the information presented, discussing it, having ideas ad coming to conclusions... Then there is what he does

 

[BlenderGuy]

This is always the danger. And this game is a fine example.

Tony and Anne have been married for a while, the sex has become boring, Tony encourages Anne, Anne sleeps around, Anne enjoys sex again...

Now you can order what's the thing missing in Anne having sex and now enjoying it and say it's Tony so they are not suitable. You could argue no having sex with the same person just gets boring and it's the freshness of a new person.

I generally haven't been in these types of circles since my last partner died. I know couples who have made it work, I know couples who haven't generally if you set firm rules and stick to them you're fine...

The logical conclusion the paths to are I think as follows

The HotWife Path/Swingers path - this should end with both Tony and Anne still together embracing there sexuality, fantasies andbkinks

Anne Cheating Path - this will either end in divorce, or Anne leaving Tony for Martin, Drake Ryan etc etc it could have Tony being an ultimate cuck to bebfair

Both cheating path - should end in divorce regardless, the couple clearly aren't into each other

I know plenty of people who decided their partner was the reason they were not happy in a relationship.
I think some people just get into relationships without knowing who they are themselves, with high expectations etc.
There's been neighbours where I live running off with other neighbours, clearly just because someone showed them some attention etc.

As for the game, in my opinion, Anne just loves feeling special to someone she finds physically attractive.
She's kinda malleable when it's with other men. Extremely impulsive too, as we see whenever pushed.
Anne seemed to like being centre of attraction whenever groped in public.

I seriously feel she'd have eventually slept with other guys, even if Tony hadn't suggested it.
She loves feeling desired by other men, even emotionally connecting with a few of them.

She's not Tony's hotwife, she's a woman finally enjoying herself completely, while Tony watches.

 

[Lagunavii]

I seriously feel she'd have eventually slept with other guys, even if Tony hadn't suggested it.
She loves feeling desired by other men, even emotionally connecting with a few of them.

Thats kinda how I see it too. It's there at the start in text, Anne loves showing herself off. I think personally as well, and this is shown better in some paths than others, but Anne is a size queen. Now we know Tony is not exactly lacking in that department... It may not be big enough for Anne.

She's not Tony's hotwife, she's a woman finally enjoying herself completely, while Tony watches.

I can agree with this, more so in the cheaters path as Tony has definitely lost control there. But she definitely seems to get who she wants on most paths...

 

[88stanford88]

When I had a look last time (as I'm nowhere near expert on the subject), I did find at least one resource saying that both cuckqueen and cuckquean are acceptable and are used to suggest ever-so-slightly different definitions. Not sure if that's the case or if it's just someone trying to explain it away or make it a thing, as I didn't catch that elsewhere, but I also didn't look too deeply. "Cuckqueen refers to a woman who enjoys watching her partner with others, while cuckquean is a term used interchangeably but, to some, may emphasize the degradation aspect of the role."

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Finally this is an informative post from you...the link you posted about the term cuckquean is very interesting...and after reading the entire article in depth I will quote what I think is an interesting thing to talk about with those who are interested in the term

By recognizing that not all cuckqueans are alike, the exploration becomes an exciting self-discovery experiment. Whether you lean towards a dominant archetype, a combination of several, or your preferences evolve over time, these archetypes act as guideposts to illuminate your unique path to pleasure.

cuckquean type 1

Submissive Cuckquean
In a D/s setting, the submissive cuckquean willingly relinquishes control, often with a fetish for humiliation, taking orders, and/or engaging in service.
Potential Involvement in Affair:

1. Takes verbal cues or humiliation from the hot husband and/or cuckcake.
2. Assumes the role of a "third wheel" or lowest in the D/s hierarchy when the cuckcake is present.
3. May act as a liaison between the hot husband and cuckcake.

Note: A cuckcake is a female “bull” in an alternative form of cuckolding where the bull and at least one other participant are female.

cuckquean type 2

Dominant Cuckquean

Similar to a D/s dynamic, the dominant cuckquean assumes a leadership role, consensually facilitating the hot husband and/or cuckcake dynamic.
Potential Involvement in Affair:

1. Directs and/or facilitates a sexual scene involving the hot husband and cuckcake.

• Co-dominates the hot husband or cuckcake.
• Assigns the cuckcake as the role of dominant during cuckquean scenes.

cuckquean type 3

Voyeuristic Cuckquean

The voyeuristic cuckquean takes pleasure in observing intimate engagements. They enjoy watching the hot husband and cuckcake, without necessarily participating.
Potential Involvement in Affair:

1. Watches the hot husband and cuckcake in the same room.
2. Watches/facilitates the hot husband and cuckcake in a virtual setting.
3. Consensually conceals presence and plays the role of a "peeping Tom."

cuckquean type 4

Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell Cuckquean

This cuckquean archetype is aware of hot husband's sexual relationships but prefers not to know the details.
Potential Involvement in Affair:

1. Consents to hot husband's affairs without requesting details.
2. Is aroused knowing something could be happening without it being disclosed.

cuckquean type 5

Tell-Me-Everything Cuckquean

This type of cuckquean takes pleasure in knowing and requires details of the hot husband's sexual activities.

Potential Involvement in Affair:

1. Hot Husband shares sexual activities in neutral or sexual settings.
2. Receives updates from cuckcake about experiences with the hot husband.

cuckquean type 6

Possible-Participant Cuckquean

This type of cuckquean is interested in participating with the hot husband and cuckcake, with the option of turning it into a

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Potential Involvement in Affair:

1. Assumes the role of the cuckquean, with the anticipation of potentially participating with consenting partners, turning the dynamic into a threesome.
2. Actively engages with the cuckcake to communicate, coordinate and establish expectations regarding a potential threesome.

EDIT
I realized today that the seventh type of cuckquean was missing. and it is the one that fits with the storyline

cuckquean type 7

Wing Quean
Takes pleasure in the hunt and participates in the selection/intro process between the hot husband and their partners.

Involvement in Affair:

1. Engages in the selection process at a bar or on an online dating site.
2. Facilitates introductions between the hot husband and selected partners.
3. Engages in the planning phase, coordinating events or scenarios where the hot husband can meet potential partners.

so now I am convinced that the kind of cuckquean who is included in the story of our adventurous couple is only 7...
pesto type 7 makes perfect sense with the story of our game

Radnos Salazar Malika1234

After finally revealing the meaning of the term cuckquean: what is the type of cuckquean you are looking for?

And what do you think is the “cuckquean” path that best fits the story between Anne and me?

For me due to the fact that there are no "cuckcake(s)"
the types 3, 4 and the type 5 are all already in the storyline.. maybe also Type 1 but i never seen any scene about type 2
but i really would like to know more about this fetish.. it can be really interesting

cheers

 

[sagerock820]

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You are quite right, it's difficult to pigeon hole with these terms... Esp given in today's world some of the words have different meanings depending on your age and understanding

I.e to me a cuckold is a husband of a cheating wife... But to someone a little younger it might well be a small ducked man who gets humiliated by his wife.

We weren't exactly analysing the game. Blender hadn't heard of the terms so was informed... Now now we both know there's only one real person who really analyizes this game.

I mean there's nothing wrong with taking the information presented, discussing it, having ideas ad coming to conclusions... Then there is what he does

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it. Everyone is different. I play the game and enjoy it or not. It's another form of entertainment.

 

[TonyMurray]

But you can't get there without Anne at least doing something sexual to someone right? I mean you can't avoid the handjob in the Spa? There's the pizza guys wheee you choose how far Anne goes, but she has to do something right? Is Anne's boss another?

Looks like you can avoid everything except for Anne giving Kenny a blowjob or two. I didn't see a way to avoid those. The spa hj/bj is avoidable but Anne gets a bit pissed at you. She soon forgets that though.

 

[88stanford88]

Both cheating path - should end in divorce regardless, the couple clearly aren't into each other

on your dreams

bad endings depends only from wrong choices and relationship points
here is my final scene of s2 p1b and as you can see I'm in both cheating path


do you think she is lying?

 

[Lagunavii]

Looks like you can avoid everything except for Anne giving Kenny a blowjob or two. I didn't see a way to avoid those. The spa hj/bj is avoidable but Anne gets a bit pissed at you. She soon forgets that though.

Oh god yeah. You can text her in the Spa can't you. I was just thinking about when she comes and has a quiet word with you.

There's actually a lot of stuff you can avoid the. Am I remembering wrong or does the female pizza delivery knock Anne back?

 

[Lagunavii]

on your dreams

bad endings depends only from wrong choices and relationship points
here is my final scene of s2 p1b and as you can see I'm in both cheating path
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do you think she is lying?

Yes in my dreams. Listen I play the Anne unfaithful path, I also play the Anne faithful path, I also play the Swingers path. I don't want all roads to leed to Rome so to speak. I want different endings for different paths. Or more to the point I want actions to have consequences, I want bad endings. It's a fine stance to have and although you don't agree with me it doesn't make either of us wrong.

No, I don't think she's lying, but at the same time your relationship score is high.

I've discussed this with you many times and you still don't get it.

For me there should be no reason for Anne to be in the unfaithful path with a high relationship score. It makes absolutely no sense to me. The only reason Anne should be on that path is if you've treated her like shit. Otherwise you're in a loving relationship, experimenting with this new lifestyle. It makes absolute no sense to me why a woman so in love with her husband, would just simply up and get with the one person he said no too. Honestly I can't wrap my head around it.

 

[TonyMurray]

Oh god yeah. You can text her in the Spa can't you. I was just thinking about when she comes and has a quiet word with you.

There's actually a lot of stuff you can avoid the. Am I remembering wrong or does the female pizza delivery knock Anne back?

You avoid the stuff in the spa when she comes over to you to check if everything's going okay. It's either you leave there, or Anne continues but it leads to sex from that one choice. The text message doesn't come into it.

I use the female pizza delivery option as a quick way of having nothing happen for these tests, but I also go for it in my actual saves to see if it might help nudge things along in terms of some girl-girl action. Anne was maybe more nervous about it, but she asks if she should try something and the girl says she would, but doesn't have time. It's another one that I kept hoping would come up again, but doesn't.