VN Ren'Py The Adventurous Couple [TACOS S2 P2a] [Mircom3D]

[TonyMurray]

The relationship points are utter pointless. They are used once as far as I can see (the choice with Martin) and even then that doesn't matter cause you can make the choice for Anne anyway.

We should never have been given that choice in the first place. It should only be based on how low that score is. if you're going to score the current healthiness of the relationship there must be other repercussions.

I sort of agree, but at the same time some might want to see the Martin storyline regardless, so I understand why it's a choice. I think it's probably right that you don't get the option if the relationship score is too low though. They should definitely be used for more things though, I also can't think of another instance.

 

[Lagunavii]

consequence that is reserved for the path you have chosen

Finally we agree on something. Yes I do want negative consequences if I decide to play on the path where I'm a dick to Anne. I also want there to be positive consequences if I'm kind, caring and loving.

While I wouldn't describe the game as a masterpiece. I do appreciate the fact it is indeed good and with the many paths etc the replay value is amazing. I just prefer not to have the paths handed to me and to work for them either with negative or positive choices

 

[Sldia]

I usually play where Tony works hard, occasionally get a BJ at work while Anne sleeps with everyone. However, I just played where Tony does a couple of different masseuses, a waitress, one of the beach girls, Emma, Nicole, someone else from the gym, two or three from work, he's as much of a slut as Anne, if you play it that way.

 

[88stanford88]

Finally we agree on something. Yes I do want negative consequences if I decide to play on the path where I'm a dick to Anne. I also want there to be positive consequences if I'm kind, caring and loving.

While I wouldn't describe the game as a masterpiece. I do appreciate the fact it is indeed good and with the many paths etc the replay value is amazing. I just prefer not to have the paths handed to me and to work for them either with negative or positive choices

yes.. if you guess but.... I'm on the full plan of the MC
I have 19 rel points and Martin cheating on... and i fucked all the girls I like!... I tell her just the girls i know she is happy to know in order to add points
as Anne do the same she tell me everyone she knows that I will be happy to know about!

WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE!

... and as I said to you Tons of time... there is a way to save our marriage without missing any of the cheating scene

Are you sure that I don't know that the 15000 dollars airline job is without Martin
I know that she is cheating on me... but i don't care
Did you see the Uncle robert scene?
He is my UNCLE... a I agreed with his plan of gangbang my wife!,,, Do you think that I will never know about Martin? (I know already but is not the time to use this info on her..she must be very upset to me before using this info)

I will use this at thecorrect point to SAVE OUR MARRIAGE!

I have had a very similar story in my life and my wife will never leave me...she knows it is impossible to find a man who will give her the same freedom that I keep showing her every day to give. This is true love!

 

[Lagunavii]

I'll agree that there a

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You can face palm all you like but this is the actual term

 

[88stanford88]

there will be consequences maybe in S3 ,,, or maybe there will be a full season dedivates to the varous endings!
I really hope the endings will not be just a single pics with the test as in all other games
I really hopes that endings will like the great sequeols in the movies...
one full season to describe 1 or 2 endings!

for me the best ending in the real life is:
going to sleep and TOMORROW... re-open your eyes ready to a new adventure

 

[Lagunavii]

yes.. if you guess but.... I'm on the full plan of the MC
I have 19 rel points and Martin cheating on... and i fucked all the girls I like!..

As I've told you many times I don't care what path you're on or how you're playing. You clearly have your own way of playing this and as you have said many times to you the game is a masterpiece. I do respect that.

For me though, I don't talk in terms of what path I'm on. I talk about the game as a whole. Cause for me and others as demonstrated in this thread. The game has flaws and I have some minor issues with it (kinda like how you have expressed a wish for cctv in the past)

I just wish that us a players were not making direct choices for Anne. It is after all not a multi protagonist game. I'd rather the actions I did previously (good or bad) the choice was made for me. Be a dick to Anne course she's going elsewhere. Be kind loving. Course she's going to be obedient to you. Etc etc.

 

[88stanford88]

You can face palm all you like but this is the actual term

To be acquiescent with the wife's cheating is to be a cuckold
...but I'm not acquiescent at all! I was talking about being the one who pushed her to fuck others I'm her husband and I want that she fuck with other men... she was reluctant for years with my plan! Anne said no to me many many times!
in the first 5 years of marriage she never accepted my plan!

I am the one in the beginning who tells her who she should or should not fuck with...Anne does what I want her to do!

because I am an Alpha!
Now i will back to ignore you again... I have received 4 notification about your posts and I have better things to do , sorry!

 

[Lagunavii]

but at the same time some might want to see the Martin storyline regardless, so I understand why it's a choice

That's what multiple playthroughs are for the dev is now actively encouraging going for multiple saves so I don't think we are going to get a choice like this in future.

 

[sagerock820]

I'll agree that there a



You can face palm all you like but this is the actual term

It says he is aware of her infidelity. There is no infidelity in an honest open relationship. And I hate the word 'cuckold', because it implies humiliation and I am not a fan of humiliation. I like sharing/swinging but not cheating.

 

[robrize2169]

Anne's cheating paths are not really fun to play. i tried out the new content with Martin initially and before she goes to meet him at the hotel, she sits in the park and thinks to herself..why am i cheating on Tony with his dad? then she just brushes it off and gets on with it. makes zero sense to me. so i have just 1 path i follow now and it is the swinging/sharing path. but now even that seems to be descending into Anne cheating. she fucks Drake at the spa and doesn't tell Tony about it when she goes back home. so that makes her a cheater according to the rules of their open relationship. yet she doesn't get tagged as unfaithful. Tony is unfaithful as soon as he gets a bj from the masseusse early on. yet he tells Anne about it, but she just laughs it off thinking it's a joke. yet he has told her and is still unfaithful? yeah the stats mean nothing.

 

[Justaphase]

I agree with all of you, glad others share this sentiment. Is my memory getting bad or does it feel like it's nearly worse than the 1st game in this regard now? The first definitely had a lot of "Anne fucking around while Tony's out of sight or at home", but at the same time also had several major events they did together as a couple, like the end swinger club (even if anne was still fucking around, tony was actively participating as a voyeur instead of hearing about it over dinner )

Yah unfortunately some may prefer the appearance of Anne to Michael Jackson

You're not wrong. There are some things that I prefer about the remake but some things are better about the original.
Look at Dre for example. In the original you have the option to join them in a threesome, whereas in the remake Tony is forced to watch through the door being completely left out. All because Ann wants her and Dre's first time to be "special" I mean what the hell is that about? Why is she thinking of him in a romantic way? Since when was this the arrangement, I thought it was only supposed to be sexual.

 

[sagerock820]

You're not wrong. There are some things that I prefer about the remake but some things are better about the original.
Look at Dre for example. In the original you have the option to join them in a threesome, whereas in the remake Tony is forced to watch through the door being completely left out. All because Ann wants her and Dre's first time to be "special" I mean what the hell is that about? Why is she thinking of him in a romantic way? Since when was this the arrangement, I thought it was only supposed to be sexual.

Agree, she should not be having romantic feelings towards anyone other then Tony. Not on a sharing path.

 

[Sixty]

So, as you guys complain about Anne becoming wild beyond the initial game with Tony- I'm pretty sure that the whole idea is that things are spinning out of Tony's control, and that he's going to be confronted with the realities of the lifestyle he pushed for.

Her behavior is supposed to get a little out of hand. That's the idea. How he handles it, how she handles it, and where it ends up is the tension of the story. Mircom's not trying to just write a porn-delivery game, he's letting actions have consequences. He's telling an actual story, with drama and potential for negative results for one or both characters, or at least for their marriage.

At a guess- and I have no inside information, this is just a guess- we're going to get game endings where Anne's behavior is open and thrills Tony, endings where they stay together but he has no real control anymore, and endings where he loses her or becomes secondary to Martin, Dre, or whomever. And of course endings where they close things back up and relegate the adventures to their history.

That's one of the classic tropes of the genre. The dude pushes for her to sleep around and the consequences grow beyond his ability to control.

 

[Lagunavii]

You're not wrong. There are some things that I prefer about the remake but some things are better about the original.
Look at Dre for example. In the original you have the option to join them in a threesome, whereas in the remake Tony is forced to watch through the door being completely left out. All because Ann wants her and Dre's first time to be "special" I mean what the hell is that about? Why is she thinking of him in a romantic way? Since when was this the arrangement, I thought it was only supposed to be sexual.

They both suffer from the fact that other than the beginning overall premise, a couple trying to save a marriage (a premise both games seem to forget) there's no overall arching plot to the game. While it happens at different paces in both it essentially becomes "The Anne Show" in both and it's hard to see why or how this matters to the overall plot. I guess a cheating wife that could lead to divorce gives a better story than a wife experementing with permission

It seems to be getting handled better in this one, which is one thing Tacos is doing better (but we are still 5 chapters behind so there is chance for this to go off rails like previously)

Also speaking of previous versions, the small chapter 15 we got... Its interesting that Anne gets blackmailed in that version for sleeping with Martin (despite what you chose in chapter 1) so it seems cheating Anne was at least the canon route. Adding more fuel to the it's the Anne Show. Obviously this might be handled differently now.

Essentially there's no clear destination at the moment and the game seems to be making pointless stops along the way... The stops are better in one than the other or rubbish in both.

 

[Lagunavii]

I'm pretty sure that the whole idea is that things are spinning out of Tony's control, and that he's going to be confronted with the realities of the lifestyle he pushed for.

See that's what I meant a few posts ago when I said the relationship points don't seem to have consequences..

The choice to cheat with Martin should never have been given to us a player. It should have been for us based on our previous choices actions...

Narritively, it makes little to no sense why Anne would cheat on Tony if the relationship points are high cause you've treat her well, it does makes sense if you've been a dick to her.

Narritively it makes no sense for Tony to loose control of the arrangement if he's totally devoted to Anne. It does if he's took his eye of the ball cause he's dicking other woman

I've absolute no problem with Anne being a bike. But I'm all for actions having consequences. I want the reasons Anne is a slut to make sense.

 

[robrize2169]

You're not wrong. There are some things that I prefer about the remake but some things are better about the original.
Look at Dre for example. In the original you have the option to join them in a threesome, whereas in the remake Tony is forced to watch through the door being completely left out. All because Ann wants her and Dre's first time to be "special" I mean what the hell is that about? Why is she thinking of him in a romantic way? Since when was this the arrangement, I thought it was only supposed to be sexual.

i had Tony nix Dre when Anne wanted to introduce them. mostly i did this because in the original it seemed like Anne was falling in love with Dre, judging by the scene in ep 15 where she is basically clinging to him like a bitch in heat the moment he showed up. still it does kinda seem like Mircom is going down the same road again with her jumping on every guy she meets and not including Tony in anything. they just aren't on the same page anymore. he is still into his dumbass fetish and she could give 2 shits since her nymphomania is now in full swing. as much as i love Anne's looks, her pesonality is shit. definately not the kind of woman any man should marry since they can fuck her constantly after meeting her for the first time. Tony's options for women seem pretty non-existant too. my pt is swinging and it's the only path i am playing in this remake since there are other games to play. i see in the gallery mod that there are a few women Tony can fuck, but my playthrough seems to have blocked him from it.
i continue to play though, but only on this 1 path. then i check the gallery and i am done till the next update. i used to play this game for hours and hours trying out different paths. but no i am pretty bored with it. shame really. it should have just continued the original version but work on making the choices really matter instead of what we have now.

 

[gam2000]

Hey, no judgement here, but when people start down that road of open relationships, one of the couple is likely to take to it more than the other. Then, there is hurt on the other and there may be no going back. That may be the whole point of the game. MHO

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

So, as you guys complain about Anne becoming wild beyond the initial game with Tony- I'm pretty sure that the whole idea is that things are spinning out of Tony's control, and that he's going to be confronted with the realities of the lifestyle he pushed for.

Her behavior is supposed to get a little out of hand. That's the idea. How he handles it, how she handles it, and where it ends up is the tension of the story. Mircom's not trying to just write a porn-delivery game, he's letting actions have consequences. He's telling an actual story, with drama and potential for negative results for one or both characters, or at least for their marriage.

At a guess- and I have no inside information, this is just a guess- we're going to get game endings where Anne's behavior is open and thrills Tony, endings where they stay together but he has no real control anymore, and endings where he loses her or becomes secondary to Martin, Dre, or whomever. And of course endings where they close things back up and relegate the adventures to their history.

That's one of the classic tropes of the genre. The dude pushes for her to sleep around and the consequences grow beyond his ability to control.

I must reject your hypothesis, this is the entire game viewed through what I'd describe as an ntr-fandom lens.

Now, perhaps that is indeed what mircom's goal is, but he's never struck me as that style or intention - it feels like it's supposed to be a hotwife-focused game.

Notice how in your analysis all those outcomes are decidedly on the ntr end of the scale - at the very best Tony is a willing voyeur, at the very worst they're practically split up. "Actions have consequences", except when they don't - many of the later game events happen on autopilot.

Overall, it's not that "drama and potential for negative results for one or both characters" is a bad thing at all, it's that "drama and potential for positive results for one or both characters" seems to be found much less often.

 

[robrize2169]

Hey, no judgement here, but when people start down that road of open relationships, one of the couple is likely to take to it more than the other. Then, there is hurt on the other and there may be no going back. That may be the whole point of the game. MHO

yeah i looked at the gallery where Anne cheats with Ryan and Tony catches them. i had him wait till later in the day and Anne tells him lies and he calls her on the bs then leaves to go stay at Dave's. i do like that the gallery allows you to watch the game from that point on too so you can see what happens next. that is how i will see other paths instead of playing over from the beginning since most choices don't really matter anymore. for me, i will continue to play the gallery from those scenes further and i am sure it will lead to divorce since Tony has left her and she just goes on with her cheating while he isn't around.