CrazyRabbit

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There is one major problem in this game, why don't we have control over Anna? Then everyone would play the way they like.
Not a fan of that, that falls into the multiple protag tag.
But if MC's actions had a real effect on Anne's (like being a jerk makes her cheat) and if we had our choices carried over to the next game ; that'd be enough to me.
Or even a quick question like on Anna Exciting Affection : every time you see someone you encountered in the previous game you have a choice between having done the dirty with them or not.
 

leg28

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There is one major problem in this game, why don't we have control over Anna? Then everyone would play the way they like.
Not a fan of that, that falls into the multiple protag tag.
But if MC's actions had a real effect on Anne's (like being a jerk makes her cheat) and if we had our choices carried over to the next game ; that'd be enough to me.
Or even a quick question like on Anna Exciting Affection : every time you see someone you encountered in the previous game you have a choice between having done the dirty with them or not.
in fact you both are telling the same. this game is by all means made for multiple (2) protagonists. and we already had practically multiple protagonist game (yes, with more tony content - when together, mainly tony was one deciding) in large part of ch1-14. and suprisingly it worked good. both mcs were spending lots of time separated in communication with others. and we had choice what to do - to stop them both doing "dirty things". game was far better when anne was also protagonist with choice - we had story. when anne's decisions were out, game became storyless collection of porn clips.
 

Sadowdark

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Not a fan of that, that falls into the multiple protag tag.
But if MC's actions had a real effect on Anne's (like being a jerk makes her cheat) and if we had our choices carried over to the next game ; that'd be enough to me.
Or even a quick question like on Anna Exciting Affection : every time you see someone you encountered in the previous game you have a choice between having done the dirty with them or not.
(y)
 

Sadowdark

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in fact you both are telling the same. this game is by all means made for multiple (2) protagonists. and we already had practically multiple protagonist game (yes, with more tony content - when together, mainly tony was one deciding) in large part of ch1-14. and suprisingly it worked good. both mcs were spending lots of time separated in communication with others. and we had choice what to do - to stop them both doing "dirty things". game was far better when anne was also protagonist with choice - we had story. when anne's decisions were out, game became storyless collection of porn clips.
This is exactly what doesn't work well. Tony has very little content in this game, it's just a minor addition compared to his wife. Anna quickly gets out of control, becoming a sexual predator, fucking anything she gets with or without Tony's consent. We don't all want Anna to fuck everything with no choice. And Tony is a lucky cuckold idiot. And what Ch1 told himself at the beginning is just a lie. An example of this Tony idiot's dialogue. in
T: You see this guy in the bar?
A: yes
T: Do you like it?
A: I don't know?
T: I know you like it
A:Or maybe
T: You would like to fuck him
A: I don't know
T: Where is Anna?
 
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latex lvr

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For me the biggest problem with this game is there are no consequences to the cheating. We know that Anne is a cheating slut whatever way you play it Anne cheats, But there has been no consequences to the fact that she cheats and tony just seams to either be oblivious to it all or does know but does nothing about it.
The second problem for me is that our choices do not matter. In this last update I choose that Anne would tell Tony about she is sleeping with his father and not work in the club yet she doesn't tell him the whole truth about his uncle and the blackmail so therefore Tony without knowing the full storey suggest she work in the club, So again our choices just don't matter. If the dev could sort out those 2 things then we would have a great game again. He doesn't have to take out the cheating or the fact that Anne (and Tony depending how you play it) are sluts just implement consequences to their actions.

For me I used to love this game and couldn't wait for the updates to come out but now I'm meh about the updates. Ill play other games before I play this one now. With this last update I waited over a week to play it. I used to care about Anne and Tony and always wanted them to work out but now I couldn't really care less about Anne and wish that we would get a choice for Tony to kick Anne out and get with one of the other girls.
 

SevenCostanza

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In my opinion the dev needs to just stop whatever he's doing and come up with actual endings to the routes. From there he can work backwards and fill in the blanks. Until he has an actual end game in sight, the game will continue to be a jumbled incoherent mess where choices don't matter and the player is just along for the ride. I mean basic logical fallacies and inconsistencies have been around from early in the game and continue to be a problem years later and once in a while will get a quick band-aid fix that causes more problems lol.
I don't expect any changes or an end game until the supporters dry up and the milking is no longer useful in which case we'll get abrupt endings to the game and/or it being abandoned for the next milk- I mean game he has planned.

Dev if you're reading this: I hope you don't take all the recent critique as an attack, instead it should be viewed as a compliment. People are complaining because they are fans of the things you've done and are that passionate/caring but are just disappointed in the direction things have gone for a while now. You have the talent you just need to tighten up the execution. If you do continue to make games/VN's going forward I hope you change your approach to how they get done. Instead of trying to cater to a wider audience right off the bat it probably would have been better to stick to your original vision/story (The Cuckold) and used that to gain a following with which your next works could have an already built in fan base which you could grow with future games. By trying to please everyone, you've pleased no one (well besides the couple hundred subs you have left I guess). Initially the subs were in the thousands when the story first started because you had a plan and were executing it but once the money started coming in you sold out your vision for it and just did what you thought the big spenders wanted which of course led to you hemorrhaging subs. Even if you didn't have a specific ending in mind for your original game, The Cuckold, you at least knew the general direction you wanted to go in and were working towards that for a while. The importance of having an ending or at least a majority of the story already mapped out can't be understated. However due to a combination of greed and/or laziness the game took some hard left turns and we are now left with... whatever this is now. We all know money is important and likely the main reason most (all?) devs do this but it should be quite clear that the quick cash grab way of doing things is much less lucrative then building an actual supportive fan base in the long run (something the most popular/successful devs have shown). If this is something you wish to continue doing into the future, you should play the long game and garner actual support rather then temporary short term gratification. No matter what you do you will always get criticism from people (you can't satisfy everyone) but at least you'll be true to yourself while at the same time doing what's best for the business side of things. Either way, just want to thank you for the game as your efforts are appreciated and I hope the potential that most people here recognize doesn't go to waste.
 

NewTricks

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whaatttt??!!
i play this game from link 1-10 old version.... zzzzzz...
can i carry my old save to ver final 14 fix??
Don't play 1-10 version unless you want to try the "spicy" mod. It is a defunct build only still linked here because it is compatible with the "spicy" mod. You will not be able to import saves. The current version starts from chapter 1 except for the Chapter 15 which is standalone (may be first chapter of part 2).
 
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How to import part 1 to part 2?
if you're talking about my Part 1 & 2, then read this.
i have no better way to explain it.
if you're talking about CH15, there is nothing to import, just start a new game.
 

chicho1958

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whaatttt??!!
i play this game from link 1-10 old version.... zzzzzz...
can i carry my old save to ver final 14 fix??
I was playing that version and I don't remember if I could use the save, but if you can't I have tons saves from v14, from start game with 200 love, got like 10-14 saves at different places but was just testing to avoid anne having sex the less posible times while I banged them all, so best choice would be the first save with 200 love so you can experience other options, but try I just can't confirm if it will work, what I sure know is that isn't working trying avoid annne banging others even if you avoid them, some you avoid but others you don't even thou didn't have beach day where you meet duke and can send him to take a hike you avoid that part and later she'll tell mc she bang him in beach so to avoid him is best to meet him then avoid him, this game routes are broken.
 

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I was playing that version and I don't remember if I could use the save, but if you can't I have tons saves from v14, from start game with 200 love, got like 10-14 saves at different places but was just testing to avoid anne having sex the less posible times while I banged them all, so best choice would be the first save with 200 love so you can experience other options, but try I just can't confirm if it will work, what I sure know is that isn't working trying avoid annne banging others even if you avoid them, some you avoid but others you don't even thou didn't have beach day where you meet duke and can send him to take a hike you avoid that part and later she'll tell mc she bang him in beach so to avoid him is best to meet him then avoid him, this game routes are broken.
I think it’s because Anne’s pussy has a dick magnet and anyone within 10 miles of her can fuck her in all her holes, even if you try to stop her the force is too strong
 

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I think it’s because Anne’s pussy has a dick magnet and anyone within 10 miles of her can fuck her in all her holes, even if you try to stop her the force is too strong
10 miles ? I live NY and it reaches here too. Already finished the game but trying different things to see how to avoid her having a pussy like a NY subway where anyone can get a free ride, I did avoid plenty but have to start over to avoid a few more doing different things, like when you go beach and meet duke or troy whatever that white guy name is you need to go to beach and avoid him if you don't go beach she'll tell mc that she banged him. I edited my save to have 200love so I could tell no plenty times so she wouldn't cheat, but still you right with the 10 miles, might need to put a gps on her lol, avoided banging secretary because she take syou home then husband shows video to anne even thou she doesn't mind but wanted to avoid him/her meeting, avoided father/emma but mc has a sentence saying hope she not in same place as emma, too many broken links. Best way is to give both anne/mc options I think everyone would play the way they want, also on 2nd trial will avoid anne friend since she set me up and with her step brother best is to let him stay then keep him in bar 2nd time, if you don't let him stay the first time 2nd time he'll bang her, gonna see how I can break the patterns, but did avoid plenty guys, she got pissed but didn't matter have 200 love.
 

Sadowdark

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For a game like this, is that really a bad thing? So she needs a tattoo on her inner thigh that says, 'Caution, Merging Traffic".
Sure it's a bad game contradicts itself. Anna fucking everything and you have no control. Not everyone wants it because it becomes boring. In the statistics you have a false cuckold. But in fact, you are a happy cuckold idiot. What a couple gets these tasks for, I do not know. so as not to get bored of the game quickly. There is no consequence in this game.
 
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