The appeal of the taboo or controversial.

[Fliptoynk]

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Anyways, I wonder if someone would dare to make a vn/game about corruption of minors without making excuses like, all the gals in'ere are sweet innocent 14+.

How 'bout THAT for a taboo, huh?

 

[anne O'nymous]

Here is an actual example. Humans crave fatty and sugary foods because these where rare long ago. Now that we have plentiful access more than half the population is eating themselves to death.

Are you really sure of this ? I ask because for the World Health Organization, there were 2.350 billions to be overweight (from 1Kg to obese) in 2016 (child above 5 years included). So, if there's now, two years later, 3.5 billions of obese, we are fucked as specie.

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Anyways, I wonder if someone would dare to make a vn/game about corruption of minors without making excuses like, all the gals in'ere are sweet innocent 14+.

How 'bout THAT for a taboo, huh?

Any link would fall under the rule 7, but ask google, you'll see that it's not this rare.

 

[Skaldy]

Are you really sure of this ? I ask because for the World Health Organization, there were 2.350 billions to be overweight (from 1Kg to obese) in 2016 (child above 5 years included). So, if there's now, two years later, 3.5 billions of obese, we are fucked as specie.

This kind of stuff happens when you mess with evolution. We are the only spicies that protect weak and unhealty so our evolution is not only halted we are also getting into endangered spicies category. With in next 100 years simple illnesses and infections will be able to kill anyone due to over use of antibiotics. Your medicine usage is passed on to your kids so guess what somewhere in near future kids will be immunue to antibiotics lol.

As Bill Burr says we need to thin the herd a little bit or mother nature will take care of it.

 

[Fliptoynk]

The game about the hijab women aint that controversial. Yeah, the comments were hilarious but not hated... They're loving it! Especially the jews!!!

 

[Xalenda]

I think the biggest component to whether something is seen as taboo or controversial is your perception of it from the start. If you're against something in real life - and I mean, like, gung-ho "Kill every last one of them N****rs" - you'll find the idea of interracial couples nauseating and very disturbing.

Personally, I find extremely overweight / very-pregnant women (basically, they look like blimps) and lolis to fall into this category. I just have zero interest in banging a chick who could suffocate me with her ass or is too young to understand what she's really doing, and feel slightly disgusted when I see it in games (even if everything's consensual).

Now, if you're not so against those topics, the idea of it in a game might not appeal to you, but you won't feel any revulsion or opposition to it being there. I don't care if incest is a thing, because I've read enough fantasy/fiction and real-world history to know that it's just something that happened, usually under the pretense of blood-line purity. Likewise, since I've never owned, seen, or spoken to a slave that wasn't into BDSM, I don't see the problem with that, either.

Where things really start to fall into the "morally grey" area is when you introduce some factor that makes it the NPC's choice to give in to the player's advances. Be it an overwhelming Charisma score, pheromones, hypnosis/mind control, huge muscles / breasts, or exploiting some past shame for personal gain, the idea remains the same that it's not YOU making the choice to do it, now - it's them. You're just along for the ride, happy to have it happen.

What I'd like to see in more games/VNs going forward here is the introduction of NPCs who realize that they've fallen victim to one of these factors, but is now so far gone and has changed so much that they rebel and try to fight back, even if they ultimately fail. What would also appeal to me is their realization that this was done to them, but their lives are now better for it, and wish to see others feel/live/act/behave in a similar fashion.

This means you can have sequels to games where the harem breaks apart, only to coalesce into a love story, or where it grows even bigger, or it falls apart entirely, or now the protagonist from the first game is now the big-bad-boss of the second/third, etc. These kinds of games will allow us to experience not only the initial mindset of the taboo - it's wrong, but it feels so right - and come out the other side with a new perspective, whatever that may be.

 

[Rastafoo]

Controversial endings make a game memorable, but that doesn't mean its well liked. NTRPG2 is the perfect example.

 

[Ataios]

Incest is harmful, if it involves reproduction or some sort of coercion - which is the case if one the people involved is dependent on the other in some way. There are certain constellations that are not inherently harmful, e.g. homosexual relationships with everybody having a save income. That aside, I think it's also because, despite it's taboo nature it produces fairly "normal" looking porn. If you don't know they are mother and son, you just see a young man fucking a milf after all. While other fetishes are visually repulsive to many people this scene doesn't look the disturbing, though the context makes it taboo.

As far as the nun fetish goes: I think this is in decline not because it gets less taboo but because most nuns in the modern world are far beyond the age of being sexual attractive to many people. Today this fetish would go along with gerontophilia in most cases.

 

[ogr blanc]

my biggest problem with incest games today is that, its pointless, for one thing, it doesnt add anyting to the story or characters, most of the time, the MC lives with a family that either despise him, or at the very least, doesnt treat him as a family member to begin with.

then there's the whole patreon debacle, where we KNOW the game will end up changed later on(if it isnt abandoned before hand), turning what little story there is into a bigger mess with the "landlady and roomates".

finally, lets be honest, most of the time, games are incest, not because the story is about it, but because it will have a bigger shot at becoming a hit with lots of patreons, so many "developers" go for it as a low hanging fruit to cash in as much as possible.

 

[Xalenda]

But it doesn’t have to be pointless!

The best games and stories aren’t always the ones that show more ‘realistic’ aversions to incest, but those that deal with the concern of the taboo itself, of breaking such a huge moral and ethical boundary... those are stories worth reading.

Familial love that transcends platonic affection and moves into the physical is not something everybody does, but it’s one that most people are familiar with:

Meet girl, fall in love with girl, fuck/marry girl, repeat as desired.

My understanding is that, because the formula is so ingrained in us as a species, incestuous relationships are seen as both understandable, and sickening simultaneously. It may be low hanging fruit, but it’s something we can all understand.