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And I understand that you like NTR.. BUT in terms of percentage of audience I'm pretty sure that is the least liked fetish of them all. Sandbox isn't a fetish.. but it is a style of game that follows in the footsteps of NTR's stranglehold.

With that being said I think it would be kinda cool to see the fetish's.. and gamestyles ranked from favorite to least favorite. That would be an interesting graph.. and who knows, it might prove me wrong.
I understand. But my questions is why is it a turn off? Maybe I just look at things different. But I am more concentrated on the woman. I couldn't care less which man is involved.

I would like to see that graphic also. It would be interesting. someone should do it
 

firevoodoo

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I understand. But my questions is why is it a turn off? Maybe I just look at things different. But I am more concentrated on the woman. I couldn't care less which man is involved.

I would like to see that graphic also. It would be interesting. someone should do it
Here is the thing. NTR the way I understand it is MC’s love interest has sex with another NPC. That’s obviously huge turn-off for any normal male if he is emotionally invested in the story. Not everyone is wired that way I guess. Apparently, cuckholding is one of many ways westerners proceed with collective suicide these days. Oh well.

Now, there is this sort of overcompensating attitude, on the other hand, to consider every female NPC as MC’s love interest. Thus the trail of the dead dads in 95% of incest-centered VNs. I noticed the trick to keep dad alive for the authors is to never show mom in person and only communicate to her via phone or alike. That’s how you keep local arm-chair DonJuans from going berserk for “forcing NTR upon them” for the crime of keeping dad around =)

I personally couldn’t care less if some random NPC has intercourse with another NPC. Not NTR in my book.

P.S. Generally, I’m not a fan of harem stories. The thing about VN why it is appealing in the age of free high-def. porn is suspension of disbelief via good story (something porn-makers do not bother these days). MC banging every single female NPC after 3-4 lines of chat is dumb plotless porn in still pics. Minus actual porn lol. Let’s be real: visually, no VN has a chance against vid with live actors.
 

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Here is the thing. NTR the way I understand it is MC’s love interest has sex with another NPC. That’s obviously huge turn-off for any normal male if he is emotionally invested in the story.
I guess I am not normal then. I can be emotionally invested in a game, and at the same time understand that I am not actually the MC, so I don't care who fucks the chick, as long as the chick is getting fucked. Which is why I don't get the turn off. As long as NTR is made optional, people who dislike it shouldn't care, imo.

I am not a fan of harem either. As I said. I like corruption, blackmail, and humiliation.
 

JokerLeader

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I doubt that it does. For the previous version of the game JokerLeader had two versions of the Walkthrough Mod, one for the base game and one for the incest patch. My guess would be that the incest patch hadn't yet been updated for 1.5 when he updated the Walkthrough Mod for 1.5, so maybe wait a day or three to give him a chance of updating his Walkthrough Mod for the 1.5 incest patch. :unsure:
Correct when I updated the mod the patch was still in version 1.4.
 

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Did the Dev stop using the stats heart and the good/bad counter? It disappeared after Pipers lollipop scene for me.
 
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I like this one more than Denos City so far, the story is better, really good models, i've seen the base from the "sister" in a few games but damn this one looks good.

One thing i hope after this update, love to see MC teach the "niece", looks like the "sister" is working something for her but it would be good for MC to do it.

Looking forward for the next updates.
 

Britfinder13

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New Android port. Nothing too fancy but let me know if you have any issues.

Version: 1.5 w/ JokerLeader WT and Gallery unlocked

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

This unofficial port/version is not released by the developer, download at your own risk.

(if it gives you a .zip, just rename it as .apk)

Help me pay for some storage if you want. Or don't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Can this be re upped as it gives an error loading page
 

EnderSoap

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Here's a gallery unlocker that will probably work for any future updates as well.

Make sure the filename is gallery_unlocker.rpy and place in the /game/ folder.
anyone know if this still works? also when I try to download, it opens to a separate link rather than downloading is that normal? How would I change the writing on the separate link into a rpy file?
 

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I guess I am not normal then. I can be emotionally invested in a game, and at the same time understand that I am not actually the MC, so I don't care who fucks the chick, as long as the chick is getting fucked. Which is why I don't get the turn off. As long as NTR is made optional, people who dislike it shouldn't care, imo.

I am not a fan of harem either. As I said. I like corruption, blackmail, and humiliation.
You can enjoy a game as if it were a movie, as a simple viewer and not identify yourself with the character you are playing as. It´s OK. But videogames have a roleplay component that you are missing and most people don´t.

Obviously, players know that they are not Cristiano Ronaldo when they play FIFA, or Geralt of Rivia in The Witcher, or a soldier in the WWII in Call of Duty. But at some level, people play to identify themselves with the character that are playing as (that's the definition of roleplaying) and not only making the mechanical acts with the mouse or the gamepad and seeing the action in the screen as viewers. And obviously, most people like to be the hero of the game: the one that scores the goal to win the match, kills the monster or saves the day in the battle. Again, it´s not true, obviously, and people know that it´s not true, but for a minute the player enjoys being the hero in the fiction.

It´s the same with erotic or porn games: nobody wants to play the part of the loser that doesn´t get the romantic interest or is cheated, but the young and attractive "alpha" character that seduces the romantic interests, except some people that, for some reason, have the fetish of playing as that loser. That's why NTR, in any form, generates rejection in most of the people.

I think it´s a basic concept, but it seems that a lot of devs don´t understand it, since even in games that are not even about NTR, masochism or domination, create MCs that are not attractive to play as. For example, but not only, "beta" males that have to appeal to lame tricks to see a boob, like spying, blackmailing, drugs or even hypnotism and magic. Or passive male characters that always follow the lead of female characters and are not able to take the initiative. Or female characters that maybe have a great 3D model but have the personality of unattractive, rude bitches, or behave like cliché, rude men. I´m not talking about this game, since I haven´t played it yet. I´m talking in general.

I assume it´s because most of the devs maybe know how to create a 3D renders, but are totally amateur writers that don´t know the basics of creative writing for videogames.
 
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SpaceBall1

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You can enjoy a game as if it were a movie, as a simple viewer and not identify yourself with the character you are playing as. It´s OK. But videogames have a roleplay component that you are missing and most people don´t.

Obviously, players know that they are not Cristiano Ronaldo when you play FIFA, or Geralt of Rivia in The Witcher, or a soldier in the WWII in Call of Duty. But at some level, people play to identify themselves with the character that are playing as (that's the definition of roleplaying) and not only making the mechanical acts with the mouse or the gamepad and seeing the action in the screen as viewers. And obviously, most people like to be the hero of the game: the one that scores the goal to win the match, kills the monster or saves the day in the battle. Again, it´s not true, obviously, and people know that it´s not true, but for a minute the player enjoy being the hero in the fiction.

It´s the same with erotic or porn games: nobody wants to play the loser that don´t get the romantic interest or is cheated, but the young and attractive "alpha" character that seduces the romantic interests, except some people that, for some reason, have the fetish of play as that loser. That's why NTR in any form, generates rejection in most of the people.

I think it´s a basic concept, but it seems that a lot of devs don´t understand it, since even in games that are not even about NTR, masochism or domination, create MCs that are not attractive to play as. For example, but not only, "beta" males that have to appeal to lame tricks to see a boob, like spying, blackmailing, drugs or even hypnotism and magic. Or passive male characters that always follow the lead of female characters and are not able to take the initiative. Or female characters that maybe have a great 3D model but have the personality of unattractive, rude bitches, or behave like cliché, rude men. I´m not talking about this game, since I haven´t played it yet. I´m talking in general.

I assume it´s because most of the devs maybe know how to create a 3D renders, but are totally amateur writers that don´t know the basics of creative writing for videogames.
What I got out of all of this is…I am more diverse then most people. I am more able to enjoy any game. I’m more mature. All the facepalms to my comments just tell me I am right. It’s amusing.

I am in it for the story so all those things you mentioned as turn offs don’t matter to me if the story is good. Again, I’m just trying to see the hot girls get naked so the male characters don’t matter to me. I am not going to mention other games because that is not allowed. But for example I am not into tying women up, gags, spanking with paddles and stuff like that, but one of my favorite games has that and it’s great because of the story.

I never cared for role play video games. And this must be the reason.
 
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OMG when Elaine tells you she has no gag reflex & then shoves your fingers in her mouth & down her throat right outside in public, I wanted to fuck her so bad, so hard, but of course we have to wait………………………………
 

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Hahaha, no, your are not. It´s OK. I´m not going to say that your way of enjoying the videogame is not correct. But you are not more "mature" because you miss the roleplaying part of playing a videogame. You are just being a viewer of the videogame, like if it were a movie, but with the mechanical part of clicking the mouse. That´s not being "more mature". You just don't enjoy the whole pack of the experience.
I know I am not. That was sarcasm. Thank you for your conversation. Much appreciated.

But I disagree about not enjoying "the whole pack". I think I am able to enjoy it even more then those who are "one dimensional" and only enjoy the one-person perspective. For example NTR since that was discussed. I can view from the MC's perspective, but when someone else is fucking the girl, I am able to pretend I am that other guy. So not more mature. But more diverse is more accurate, I think.
 
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