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I'm not secretly a Brit, I'm publicly a Brit ;) I'm also always chatting about British and European things in my Discord server.
In terms of the game, there are lots of references and details that a non-Brit wouldn't know about, and also things that happened in the Premier League over the last 20 years that are hard to pick up unless you are close to it. Most of the football talk, stories, moves etc. are grounded in that rich vein of history, with a little bit of Messi thrown in for good measure. I grew up watching football, played it until I was 18, and have supported Newcastle United since I was 11. Yeah, that's been quite the journey ;) So I do chuckle a lot when you get the occasional comment about how "the soccer is not realistic". Such a tell.
My proofreader does a very good job of helping translate my British English into American English, to help it work better for an international audience. I could have done the whole thing natively but then my niche game would have been even smaller than it is... probably!
trust me as someone who can't read at all without software I don't care how they speak

I'm just grateful to be able to enjoy your game with a great love story

I don't really care what kind of English they use
 

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I'm not secretly a Brit, I'm publicly a Brit ;) I'm also always chatting about British and European things in my Discord server.
In terms of the game, there are lots of references and details that a non-Brit wouldn't know about, and also things that happened in the Premier League over the last 20 years that are hard to pick up unless you are close to it. Most of the football talk, stories, moves etc. are grounded in that rich vein of history, with a little bit of Messi thrown in for good measure. I grew up watching football, played it until I was 18, and have supported Newcastle United since I was 11. Yeah, that's been quite the journey ;) So I do chuckle a lot when you get the occasional comment about how "the soccer is not realistic". Such a tell.
My proofreader does a very good job of helping translate my British English into American English, to help it work better for an international audience. I could have done the whole thing natively but then my niche game would have been even smaller than it is... probably!
Haha, I guess I should have checked. :giggle: Your proofreader is very good then, a few things did slip through but I bet most people wouldn't notice. I am not a sports person so I wouldn't be able to tell if all the game talk had any clues though.
 
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He definitely is! Good proofreader, great person! There are some small non-football things that Ivy mentions about Surrey, and the teasing of Lauren being from Portsmouth (a shithole) when she is actually from West Wittering. For anyone reading this from Portsmouth, I'm sorry that you live there. Try West Wittering ;) Lots of other little things I can't even remember now and lots to come.
 

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He definitely is! Good proofreader, great person! There are some small non-football things that Ivy mentions about Surrey, and the teasing of Lauren being from Portsmouth (a shithole) when she is actually from West Wittering. For anyone reading this from Portsmouth, I'm sorry that you live there. Try West Wittering ;) Lots of other little things I can't even remember now and lots to come.
I was going to respond to the other comment to say Ivy isn't the only Brit, but I couldn't remember who it was who was from NotPortsmouth. Proofreader missed one of our stars in the last update though - "Chloe Kely" I think it was (instead of Kelly). Immediate loss of respect when I read that :LOL:
 

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Haha yes someone else spotted the typo. It's already fixed in my version. I have a big soft spot for Chloe. Off the pitch she seems v average looking but on it, just wow. Complete transformation. I still marvel at that power penalty of hers, with the little skip to start her run up.
 

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I'm only human Tony! :LOL:
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

I feel ya. I do beta testing for a number of games and then they get released and someone spots a spelling mistake or continuity error and I hang my head in shame and wonder how the hell I missed that. :ROFLMAO: (and if I'm going to get fired. :()
 
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Buck stops with the developer. That's why I now have mental health issues after all the criticisms that keep being thrown at me ‍♂ and I do this for fun...
You've gotta have a thick skin to be a AVN dev. I couldn't do it, and it's why so many devs leave F95. And at a guess, I reckon 90% of the criticism is not constructive or valid.
 

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Spot on. I've now got friends in the community and testers etc and that is worth so much. Great for moral support. What has helped me is having a v low bar for putting users on ignore, and in general never reading reviews. If someone wants to helpfully criticise you do it in comment or via DM so you can have a discussion. The fact they choose a form where noone can interrogate or explore says a lot.
 

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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

I feel ya. I do beta testing for a number of games and then they get released and someone spots a spelling mistake or continuity error and I hang my head in shame and wonder how the hell I missed that. :ROFLMAO: (and if I'm going to get fired. :()
I often tell people that you can run a manuscript past the ten best proofreaders in the world, and the eleventh best will still find something the previous ten missed. As sagerock820 notes, we're only human.
 

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A bit of an odd decision, since there was that buildup right before a perfect opportunity. Why structure it that way, and then have it off screen?
I agree. I would have enjoyed that discussion. Let's hope the actual details of the collab will be discussed :)

The Love Interests list is also a little odd. Penny is there from the get-go, but is barely present in the story; Cleo is your first sexual partner in OC, but doesn't make the list.
yeah. Chloe deserves a spot in the LI list. she got more depth, at the moment, than most of the actual LI. Anya is starting to reach that spot too. and it seems they both stir the heart of the fans :D

Oh, it's common in many VNs, but with how often it comes up in this one it's worth pointing out how little the head space in the massage tables gets used. Just kinda funny. The hole will be right there, and there's the character with their face turned sideways, hole ignored.
100% !! I think it's a technical issue. it will be harder to pose the models on the table if you use the hole because then, they would clip through the table and you would have to simulate the body being squashed under its own weight, manually. while just pretending the characters prefer not to use the hole is easier :D

I only know the basics like the names of the pieces and how they move , I never watched that series had no interest in it. There is a AVN I play that has more than one scene in it that has full on chess matches and lets say alot of the dialogue confuses the hell out of me , cause I only know the basics. Like I never knew there was something called castling till I played that game.
then you know about chess. the basics is enough to get started.
what game were you referring too ? the one with the daughters trying to seduce their dad ? :D
 
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100% !! I think it's a technical issue. it will be harder to pose the models on the table if you use the hole because then, they would clip through the table and you would have to simulate the body being squashed under its own weight, manually. while just pretending the characters prefer not to use the hole is easier :D
I often notice this in these games too. Same with pillows, the number of people who never use pillows (and duvets/comforters), even if they're available, is apparently really high!
 
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I often notice this in these games too. Same with pillows, the number of people who never use pillows (and duvets/comforters), even if they're available, is apparently really high!
well, I wouldn't use rock hard pillows either, to be honest... :D
though I would never buy them in the first place :ROFLMAO:
 

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Clearly I've missed some comments. Hard to juggle everything!

Collab - yes some discussions take place that either I don't show or that don't involve the MC. Collab will get covered at some point. I'm trying to paint a fairly realistic picture - as far as the constraints of an AVN and my skills with 3D art can go anyway - of a club that is basically a fast-moving business. There's lots happening all the time, so I'm never going to cover it all. There's usually a good reason why I have done or not done something, but of course I make mistakes because I've set myself a big challenge.

LIs and opinions about certain characters being left off. I can say it until I'm blue in the face: the LI list is not fixed, and people are often conflating sex with a relationship. The LIs in this game are meaningful, interesting, and complex characters where you might even be able to have a kid with, perhaps move in with etc. Current side characters are either for the story, general realism, or some fun lewd scenes to keep people happy that are wanting a porn game. Players can expect away based on what other game or games they've played, it doesn't matter to me. This is the setup of this game. As to Chloe, maybe she will become an LI. Maybe she won't. She's cool, sexy, and fun, but is she interesting enough for me to include as an LI? That's the decision I have to make. Remember, I created these characters and they live in my head, so I know their backgrounds and little intricacies. Just because they haven't been revealed yet doesn't mean they don't exist. It is just yet to come. Also, people will inevitably disagree on subjective things like this. Another example is Penny and Leah featuring on the game banners. Someone asked me why, given they don't feature in the game much. That's because I'm making a game, and the game is not v0.6/7/8. They will become hugely important, and once the game is complete it will be clear why they feature so prominently. I'm not going to keep remaking the bloody banner for each version depending on how much time some character has featured thus far. Especially when it's a choice-based game.

Massage tables and little holes. Well MC's shoved his cock through one already, and Tamara's used a head hole during a massage. And yes, there's a technical reason why with the posing. Also, if you've ever had a massage the little hole is incredibly uncomfortable to use, and you're putting your face where other people have put theirs, which makes me feel a bit icky. Much better to just shove your cock through it.

Duvets and blankets - good luck spending nearly an hour getting one to drape nicely over a character, just for 1 or 2 renders that 99% of people won't care about :) I am incredibly lucky that I've somehow ended up making a game where it is always very warm, so people don't need pesky things like duvets ;)
 
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Ivy is the only one from England. What British manner are you talking about?
I don't recall all of them, but Priya says 'lolly.' For others I'd have to start over from the beginning, and since no one's paying me for that...
 

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I'm not secretly a Brit, I'm publicly a Brit ;) I'm also always chatting about British and European things in my Discord server.
In terms of the game, there are lots of references and details that a non-Brit wouldn't know about, and also things that happened in the Premier League over the last 20 years that are hard to pick up unless you are close to it. Most of the football talk, stories, moves etc. are grounded in that rich vein of history, with a little bit of Messi thrown in for good measure. I grew up watching football, played it until I was 18, and have supported Newcastle United since I was 11. Yeah, that's been quite the journey ;) So I do chuckle a lot when you get the occasional comment about how "the soccer is not realistic". Such a tell.
My proofreader does a very good job of helping translate my British English into American English, to help it work better for an international audience. I could have done the whole thing natively but then my niche game would have been even smaller than it is... probably!
I'd be happy with an out and proud British story (as I said, I thought it was one until the UK was 'othered' in conversation, and then I was confused. Like their rival team is 'Alba' for Scots sake).
 
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I don't recall all of them, but Priya says 'lolly.' For others I'd have to start over from the beginning, and since no one's paying me for that...
No worries, I was just curious. Game takes place in the US, so I try to 'Americanize' the script as best I can. Lolly I think is subjective, I'm from the US and have heard it used frequently in my lifetime. I think I get all the incorrect 'British' spellings! lol Just kidding Daggum! :LOL:
But like I mentioned in another comment, watching a lot of British TV and talking to Brits regularly, my 'colour' may thought processes from time to time. :D
 
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