HTML The Bitch Switch! [Ch. 2 v20240719] [Echo Hollow]

[f96zonetrooper]

Agreed. The story would be better with a protagonist (either character) than just a couple of POV characters. The dramatic tension of "what will they do with my body?" is broken by allowing the player to completely decide that. Multiple-POV stories only work when there is little or no interaction between the POV characters.

Imho multiple protagonist games work best if the protagonists are in a cooperative team and share a goal. The player then has to decide who is best suited to do which part of the puzzle to progress, eg use the female body to seduce someone to get access or use the male body to ask a hacker friend to hack into a system to grant access from inside or use one character as distraction at front while the other one acts from behind.
(Famous examples in early adventure games are "Maniac Mansion" (1987), "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis" (1992) or "Day of the Tentacle" (1993) by Lucas Arts.)

If both protagonists are antagonistic, it may quickly escalate to tit-for-tat or worse, both characters just damaging each others social reputation, assets, bodies and worse. (Asshole move from Shay might be to have sex with a guy, get the female body pregnant and then swap back to his male body, leaving Brandi pregnant.)

 

[Candy1970]

Agreed. The story would be better with a protagonist (either character) than just a couple of POV characters. The dramatic tension of "what will they do with my body?" is broken by allowing the player to completely decide that. Multiple-POV stories only work when there is little or no interaction between the POV characters.

I played one that sort of pulled in off you were a demon sent to corrupt a family you could only inhabit one body at a time and the other family members had their own agency to a point ....the interactions were sort of shallow was the only issue you had to keep bringing up subjects they liked to build relationship points for seduction to take effect .........the more you corrupted each mind the easier they were to manipulate sort of .....Can't remember the name of it but i have not seen any updates from it recently so i assume its abandoned

 

[Candy1970]

Imho multiple protagonist games work best if the protagonists are in a cooperative team and share a goal. The player then has to decide who is best suited to do which part of the puzzle to progress, eg use the female body to seduce someone to get access or use the male body to ask a hacker friend to hack into a system to grant access from inside or use one character as distraction at front while the other one acts from behind.
(Famous examples in early adventure games are "Maniac Mansion" (1987), "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis" (1992) or "Day of the Tentacle" (1993) by Lucas Arts.)

If both protagonists are antagonistic, it may quickly escalate to tit-for-tat or worse, both characters just damaging each others social reputation, assets, bodies and worse. (Asshole move from Shay might be to have sex with a guy, get the female body pregnant and then swap back to his male body, leaving Brandi pregnant.)

or go into a tattoo parlor and get her a cum-slut tramp stamp tat LOL she in turn would alienate his friends and do her best to crash his grades each time they would do something to lead each other to destruction until they were both miserable

 

[f96zonetrooper]

Any speculations about Ada's secret?

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[Nobles]

So I played it.... and it feels like it was 5 years ago.

But some comments
I like how we going to get to play the both of them.. It seems fun we can direct how things go with them..
I myself want tot get brandi addicted to her new dick and hopefully an abnomral libido that reacts to girls inlcuding her own female body even if she realizes how fucked that is,. Her fighting the urges back ^_~. At first she touch it as curiously got the better of her even when she finds it gross, but then it felt good until she accidently ejaculates and feels the best pleasure shes ever felt, more so than she ever masturbated as a woman. hence doing it more and obviously hiding it from Shay, while of course demanding shay to not touch her body as the bitch she is. Turning her into an even more pervert these woman accuse and complain men are, definitely the way I will take her . Eventually the cat will get out of the bag if he catches her in the act (between the bro and sis), but a hopefully little later down the line so we can have some fun with it.

Im going to have to guess Ada is lesbian too. It be an interesting development if she offers to help shay with ulterior motives, like wanting shay to learn a girls body with her own touching and inspections. While insisting its fine, we're both girls. Still to be helpful as a friend, but with ulterior motives to take advantage of.

Overall, I really like to see this event bring the sis and brother closer together tho. The event repairing their relationship, and yes im for a permanent switch (book destroyed and the fact they were siblings/twins is probably why the book allowed it). I think switching back only works in a scenario when they can freely do it (back and forth) and developed a good bond.

Guess Ill have to wait for more. See how this story goes for real.

 

[EchoHollow]

Just posted an update. Second scene of Chapter 2. Back to playing as Shay!

Next week's release will have two more scenes, one where Brandi dresses Shay up and sends him off on a date with Logan (to keep up appearances of course), and another where Brandi has to pretend to be Shay when Ada and Melvin stop by for some D&D.

 

[EchoHollow]

I just hope feminization isn't tied to dominance and submissiveness. They are conflated all the time on porn game sites. Despite mountains of porn with dominate shemales and femboys. Like, at least let fem pc's keep their spine. lol.

No, this is one where you can choose (and indeed the canon story path is) to play Shay as a somewhat assertive sexually confused twinkboi.

I am not a yuge fan of the D/s and noncon stuff either, though it will be available through the Courtney path

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. That being said, since it's not a particular interest of mine, I suspect that it won't get the same amount of attention as the Logan path.

 

[ffive]

(and indeed the canon story path is) to play Shay as a somewhat assertive sexually confused twinkboi.

...



Well, shit.

"not my canon"

On a more serious note, any chance for the "Hints and Commentary" mode to be a toggle rather than mandatory as soon as you complete current build? I don't really want the game to scream at me "this is canon!" at each choice on subsequent playthrough(s).

edit: minor error/oversight, if you put on different panties stolen from Brandi early in chapter 2, this goes unnoticed even if you undress and change clothes in front of her.

 

[Alex Frost]

(Asshole move from Shay might be to have sex with a guy, get the female body pregnant and then swap back to his male body, leaving Brandi pregnant.)

I'd love that to happen

 

[someoldguy]

Interesting game structure and I enjoyed the introduction but it looks like it's channelling Shay into unavoidable M/M.

Best of luck with this.

 

[f96zonetrooper]

It feels strange that Shay inside Brandi's body masturbating triggers an obsession to Logan. If Shay is heterosexual, he would probably fantasize about sex with girls or get off watching himself in Brandi's body in a mirror while masturbating. He could actually get an obsession for Brandi's body.
In the previous masturbation event when Shay was in his own body, he was also not able to have straight fantasies about girls but instead required humilation by Courtney, Brandi's panties, her vibrator or had to fantasize about Logan to cum. So he is either a pervert or gay (or both) ... and Logan is likely also gay, maybe more interested in Shay than in Brandi ... Maybe Brandi should have gone to the Logan date herself in Shay's body to increase her chances?

The game lacks options to share the body swap story with other characters like Logan, Ada, etc.

 

[CorvusCorax]

If I had a nickel for every game that made the male character switch to a girl, I'd be a rich motherfucker

(Also why is it always gender swapping? Like why not just have a game where you play a sister and a brother? Why specifically do they have to swap bodies for it to be 'sexy'? Idk maybe I'm just growing desensitized to this stuff but there are hundreds of games with this premise out there and it's honestly starting to get annoying seeing them all have the same premise)

If I had a nickel for every comment in this forum where people go complain write this same comment i would be even richer. If you don't like, just ignore and move on. Not everyone has the same taste.

 

[Honey King]

Can we expect a lezdom where “Brandi” will be sabmissive?

 

[Bassjake]

I just found this game it looks like it will be a very good game after a few updates

 

[f96zonetrooper]

I just found this game it looks like it will be a very good game after a few updates

If you check the dates of posts in this thread you may notice that chapter 1 was released in june and chapter 2 in july. Since then there was not much communication here. It seems that the game curently is more or less on hold / development is slowed down... more infos should be available on discord.


On patreon dev wrote :

August 21

I'm better.

TL;DR: I'm pausing billing for this month.

Hey guys, I'm better now. I caught the coof and then somehow got pneumonia and that knocked me on my ass for a couple of weeks. And laying in bed while sick got my sleep all screwed up so I had to fix that. But I think that's all taken care of now.

Because of this break in content creation, I'm going to pause billing for this month. You guys shouldn't have to pay for me being a sack of S!


October 3

Update!

Development is happening again, but I'm going to go ahead and pause billing for another month anyway just to be fair to you guys.

You can find the development logs and such on the Discord. Thanks!!

 

[Bassjake]

If you check the dates of posts in this thread you may notice that chapter 1 was released in june and chapter 2 in july. Since then there was not much communication here. It seems that the game curently is more or less on hold / development is slowed down... more infos should be available on discord.


On patreon dev wrote :

August 21

I'm better.

TL;DR: I'm pausing billing for this month.

Hey guys, I'm better now. I caught the coof and then somehow got pneumonia and that knocked me on my ass for a couple of weeks. And laying in bed while sick got my sleep all screwed up so I had to fix that. But I think that's all taken care of now.

Because of this break in content creation, I'm going to pause billing for this month. You guys shouldn't have to pay for me being a sack of S!


October 3

Update!

Development is happening again, but I'm going to go ahead and pause billing for another month anyway just to be fair to you guys.

You can find the development logs and such on the Discord. Thanks!!

Thanks for the information