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Finally, an expansion focused game that actually has The Sauce (cum).

The art assets could use a go over, and having more in the way of unlockable content that isnt just additional backgrounds would be nice. Like a zoom function when you increase your room size.
Otherwise, the game has serious potential. Not a lot of expansion content that has visual components let you get all that big, so its great to see this just letting you grow characters however big you want.

I guess my only real complaint is just how fast women are despite their size, and that if they choose to start walking as soon as they complete an action it can be a struggle to grab them, even more so when their massive size makes it difficult to find their actual grab points.
 
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If you click Settings you can make the intro text pop up again.
How? I can look at the tutorial, but I'm talking about the intro/background text with the "story", the text starting "In the year 42069, men have become almost full extinct..."

Since the game autosaves (in the browser cache, or windows registry, or somewhere) the only way I could even write that was by installing a second browser to run the game again truly from the start to see what the text said (or look at the first post above, which contains an excerpt). Please make it possibly to completely restart, not just "erase progress".
 
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Finally, an expansion focused game that actually has The Sauce (cum).

The art assets could use a go over, and having more in the way of unlockable content that isnt just additional backgrounds would be nice. Like a zoom function when you increase your room size.
Re: the backgrounds, I made a few suggestions above to spice up each room, make it more than just a changed backdrop to otherwise identical space for your girls.

Yes, if you pour 20-30 liters of cum into room size increases, you can easily get lost. Suggestions:

a) Increase the rooms in every direction EXCEPT down. That is, I naturally keep the men at the bottom of the screen, so their cocks are kept in view. But currently, the room increases in all directions. This makes the men end up away from the bottom of your screen. You can actually be faced with an "empty" room if you increase the size so much (in one go) so the men "disappear" above what you're currently watching.

b) Add more "texture" such as the little grates in the bathroom. They're incredibly helpful to get a sense of motion or direction. Otherwise when you mouse towards the edge of the screen, but there's no girl or guy present, you basically can't see the scrolling. It looks as if nothing is happening.

c) Regarding the movement of the girls. I might be mistaken but it felt like girls were less active in the version up online, and walked around more in the version I downloaded. I completely agree with the idea to have them zip along annoyingly fast at first, but they get slowed down when they get bigger breasts and bellies.

d) Maybe add a bell you can ring to gather the girls in a room? Or, maybe not a bell but a bucket full of cum, you purchase at the potions screen? The girls find it irresistible (and do drink it with the usual effects) but the main point: they run towards it. In a very large room that would make it much simpler to find them. (Unlike stationary men, you place at the bottom and they stay put, girls wander all over the place, and never remain where you last saw them if you switch rooms).

e) I absolutely would love a zoom function. Make it expensive I don't care. Cocks get so large you have to scroll up just to see the girl riding the dick, which maybe is intentional, but I would like an alternative where I pay to get to see the whole spectacle in one screen. Just allow you to BOTH zoom out and back in again. I would love a zoom function but I would also hate it if you zoomed out permanently with no way to zoom in on any one girl.
 

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The question on how to best start and get you factory going is rather interesting.

Fresh guys cum around 100 ml each time. But a girl won't start dribbling pussy juice until maybe 400 ml(?) is deposited in her vagina.

Now, since the cost (in cum) for purchasing the first few girls and guys is so low, you should probably hold off trying to grow your girls until you have, maybe three girls and three guys. This way someone is nearly always cumming, and the progress won't feel so slow.

So currently I think your best starting strategy is to
* have at least one girl for each guy, so all cocks can be masturbated at all times
* ideally you want at least one more girl than guys, so she can sit on ejaculating cocks without having to interrupt the masturbation
* you want to focus on growing a single girl at first, and have her sit on each cock as it ejaculates. You want to get a girl drooling with pussy juice as soon as possible. I really think (without being certain) it's better to get one girl with a huge butt than having all girls have moderate butts
* another advantage of having extra girls is they can sit on guys faces to feed them their pussy juice without that interrupting masturbation.
* if you have more than three guys, at least one cock is going to ejaculate at any given moment. And ejaculations start to take significant time! So what I do is increase my focus to two girls, then maybe three girls, so while one sits on a cumming cock another drinks from one.
* cock size doesn't seem to be integral to cum production the way ball size is. AFAIK the mechanical advantage of having a large cock is that several girls can help masturbate it. This means a guy with large balls will cum more often if he also has a large cock (and you have enough girls to work it). Still, I found that focusing on ball size was key to getting the game up to speed.
* Only after a girl starts visibly drooling pussy juice would I start letting her drink cum for breast size. You probably need eight loads or so, before you've started a girl's respective pussy juice or breast milk production...

I'm also pretty convinced that, once a girl starts to drool pussy juice and/or lactate milk, the game keeps producing those liquids. That is, you might think you're limited by the size of a girl's breasts or ass and if you don't milk or facesit her, you're gonna lose out on milk or pussy juice. But AFAIK there's no limit to how much liquids a girl can hold (not in game version 1.0.1 at least) so one lazy way of getting going is for you to take a coffee break or something and when you return your girls will feed loads of liquid to your men, very quickly growing their cock and balls. Just remember this only works once a girl has started producing milk and pussy juice - a brand new girl doesn't produce anything at all, even if you let the game run overnight!


Thoughts? Alternate strategies you found fun?
 
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Direct question to the developer Lerd0

I love the way a cock can "bug out" and keep cumming for far longer than normal.

Especially, of course, if it gives a girl the ride of her life (expanding her belly to insane amounts). But also if it deposits 5 or 10 liters of cum into your account.

I don't care if this is a bug or a feature, I love it, and I hope it never goes away. Is it completely random or is there any way to get it to happen more often?

1) Do guys cum for longer if you keep masturbating them as they ejaculate?
2) Do guys cum for longer if you feed them breast milk at the same time as they're ejaculating?
3) Do guys cum for longer if you sit on their faces to feed them pussy juice at the same time as they're ejaculating?

Or maybe the extra super plus ejaculations only happen when you do both 1+2 or 1+3? (Since guys have only one mouth, I don't see how you can both breastfeed a guy at the same time another girl sits on his face)

Edit: Ha, the tells me the behavior wasn't intentional... but please don't consider it a bug.

When I got a girl to sit on a cock that cummed for an hour, growing to insane proportions - I think I needed like 7 or 8 cum digestion potions just for her belly to shrink enough to fit on screen... I should add the game acted weirdly slow, and I had spread people over several rooms. So maybe this "bug" happens because of some timing issue that mostly happens when the game struggles to run at full speed...?

Again, if you do fix the bug, I really hope you replace it with an intentional random chance at, say, a x3 and a x5 longer cumming period! Cheers!
 
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A bug report:

When you switch to a new room, you aren't placed at the same location as when you left. Not sure if the game randomizes the location or if it's just a bug where the game loses track of where you were, or what's happening.

Anyway, it's super annoying you can't quickly switch between rooms to keep track of whatever's happening, because first you need to scroll around to find the action.

This basically breaks room size increases. You basically never want to increase room size if it no longer places you at the same place in that room.

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Another bug.

the FPS (frames per second) can drop precariously. Seemingly for no reason.

You can end the game (please add an option to do this in the settings menu) and start it again to make the game speedy again, but just to let you know.

Edit: I am pretty certain the slowdowns are related to having more rooms (or at least having people in other rooms), Lerd0 - I didn't have any problems whatsoever when I stayed in the Factory and purchased no extra rooms.
 
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Another bug report, Lerd0

If you sell a girl while she is breastfeeding or facesitting a guy, you've enabled endless liquid-guzzling. The girl is gone, but the guy keeps drinking... :p

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Also, can I ask you to consider having a girl stand perfectly still for at least one whole second before (potentially) moving off?

This isn't an action game, but it can feel like one where you accidentally grab a girl by her waist/tits but intended to grab her by her head (to drink cum off of a cock that's about to go off). The instant you release her to change the grip, she runs off and you waste precious time chasing her. She might even go where she stands behind someone else, and by the time you've moved everybody so you can see her clearly, either she moves again, or the cock starts cumming.

If there only was a timer of just a single second where a newly released girl stands perfectly still, all of this nonsense could be avoided.

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Could you please implement a way to ask a girl to turn around?

Maybe SHIFT click her to make her turn?

A girl with a hugely distended belly that looks at you simply cannot be grabbed by her ass or legs - there is no part of her ass or legs that isn't covered by her belly. This means you might be unable to sit her on a soon-to-be ejaculating cock, because you need to wait until she randomly decides to walk in a direction where she turns her butt towards you.

(I do realize there's a "trick" where if you ask a girl to breastfeed a guy, she lies down turned away from you. This allows you to grab her butt if you need to sit on a cumming cock, so perhaps you like the "skill" aspect of this.)

If you could shift-click a girl to switch between showing her face and tits to showing her butt and legs (and vice versa), that'd be a small but welcomed improvement. Cheers!
 
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I just black screen on start up, I have no clue why so I guess I'm stuck with the online demo until I figure this out.
For some reason they all look like yellow blobs to me. There are no textures. What is up with that?
Here's an idea of what to expect...:

Here we have one of the working girls, almost newly employed. She hopes to put a lot of cum into her breasts and ass and to become a top employee! But for now, she's just* starting out...
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*) I've let her drink from a cock one single time, because I find the initial appearance of these girls to be a little too flat (and underage-looking) for my personal preference. Other than having developed actual tits (the image shows the smallest increase), her looks are at default settings.


Here we have two girls in the factory, taking a quick break. They have both taken a fair bit of cum, with the blue-haired girl preferring to sit on cocks while the purple-haired mostly enjoys sucking on dicks, though she's turning away from us so we can't really see her impressive rack. Both girls leak somewhat indicating it's been a while since someone drunk their pussy juice and breast milk.
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Here's a heavily lactating girl sitting on a cock she just jerked off to climax. She's bouncing a bit but sits comfortably on the cock, that's spuring more cum into her belly that will eventually be converted to an even bigger ass.
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After long and hard work by the girls, they've managed to feed enough of their drooling pussies to this futa with green spiky hair. Their cock and balls are very swollen indeed, but the girls can't wait taking turns on it, anticipating it swelling even more as it grows hard.
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Here is the same blue-haired girl enjoying the ejaculation of the cock she worked so hard to excite. Note how a relatively large cock and balls can inflate a girl since so much cum is deposited in one go. Since the cock is so large, and cums so hard, we can forgive the small amount of spilling - luckily none of the working girls are wearing clothes, because there's a lot of cum in this factory! It will be a while before the cum in her belly is digested and more ass has been grown, for sure! One girl keeps working the cock to minimize downtime while two other girls just won't follow the photographer's directions - these girls absolutely will not stay put if you leave them without a job to do!
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Developer Notes:​
If you've got more ideas for hats, cosmetics, rooms, or cutscenes, let me know! The only reason I stopped here is because I'm out of ideas.
Here's a simple one - add a name to each factory girl. Something simple, like "Daria" or "Anna" or "Boobie". You might think you need a way for the player to enter names, but generating a list of say 100 female first names is trivial, and is all I'm asking for.

Having a name tag on the main screen at all times could be cluttery, but perhaps you could make it work. I think clarity works best here, so I wouldn't use your "pixely" font for the names (they would need to be too big and blocky) but something using the screen's true resolution. Maybe an on/off toggle in settings. Or at the very least, the name appears when you click "edit girl".

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And oh, currently the game offers a selection of two belly types: round and... oblong...? Why not make this setting unique to each girl (so you could have one round girl and another oblong girl at the same time)

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Another suggestion: instead of fixing a girl's expression (the eyes and mouth), have her express surprise when you assign her to masturbate a particularly large cock, joy when a cock cums, a pained flash when her breasts or pussy is at capacity and overflowing with milk/juice, and perhaps even momentary annoyance or dismay when she sees her belly growing very large (compared to her breasts and ass). You already have all the expressions needed, and you could still keep the current static expressions intact, just add a "dynamic" checkbox to the edit girl screen, for players that would love to see their girls actually react while earning a day's keep.

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A suggestion for a cutscene of sorts: when you sell a girl you get a publicity snapshot for a star worker of your factory, much like sport star trading cards, where you have two pictures of the girl: 1) smiling or waving to the camera while proudly displaying her heavy tits and fat ass. In this shot, she's lactating only. And 2) with her back turned to the camera, she turns her head, so we can see her face together with her ass, which is now gushing with fluids. At one side we see her "stats", which would include her name (if implemented), the number of days (or game minutes?) she's been working at the factory, and the volume of her ass and titties, and/or how many cc's of milk and juice she's able to produce. Then you could collect all these cards in a gallery. (Just allow players to delete pictures, or at the very least to sell a girl without taking pictures, so the gallery can be kept at a manageable size. After all, the idea isn't to provide a complete roster of every girl that have ever worked in the factory, but to showcase "featured all-stars" as selected by the player)

Currently if you sell a girl she's permanently gone - she's "converted" into cum. If you have an "all stars" gallery (see above) you could also add the stat of her price in cum, and allow the player to buy her back. This way you could have a game with girls from different play-thrus all together.

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Have the balls of guys with raging hard-ons that are denied ejaculation (because no girl is masturbating them any more) turn literally blue.

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Okay, so here's another idea!

Very large cocks swing wildly as they ejaculate. How about introducing a risk the girl falls off, with the risk decreasing the heavier the girl (a gild with a large rump, belly and/or breasts) would sit "deeper" and more secure on the cock.

If you have several girls helping to masturbate the cock, they could stand up to stabilize the cock when it starts to ejaculate, trying to help the girl actually sitting on (or drinking from) the erupting cock - this would eliminate the risk of falling off entirely. (After all, it would be annoying to waste all that cum, so a way to reduces the risk all the way down to 0.000% would be good)

This would mostly mean a brand new girl would need one or two "helpers" so she isn't thrown clean off a gigantic cock. Simply have two girls masturbate the cock, and when it ejaculates, they rise up and hold it steady for the new girl.

In a similar fashion even a huge cock would "stay put" if an even heavier girl sat on it. Instead of swinging to and fro, the girl would simply bounce up and down as the cock cums, but it would be unable to swing her.
 
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One question to Lerd0

What happens if you increase the game resolution? Seems to me the resolution could be increased at least somewhat without sacrificing the game's esthetics, and still make for slightly more rounded less pixelated breasts and asses...?

Maybe the low resolution ensures good computer performance, but I have found that as long as you don't purchase more rooms, the game's FPS is rock solid. I don't have a particularly spectacular CPU so I would definitely be interested in at least looking at a higher resolution.

I'm not asking for full HD by the way. I clearly understand the pixelated blockiness is part of the charm. But maybe a 50% increase in resolution could be reasonable to offer, to add as an "enhanced" toggle in the settings?
 

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One more suggestion, if you think it would be feasible:

Would love it if girls could attempt to keep wearing clothes for as long as possible.

I'm thinking a simple thigh-length skirt and a jacket or open blouse. As tits grow, they peek out of the blouse that no longer can fully hide the breasts. As asses grow, the skirt rides higher and higher until it just bunches around the waist.

Would love this even though I realize girls can pretty quickly outgrow any type of clothing.

Sometimes a girl with no job (where they currently walk around randomly) will attempt to cover her breasts or pussy. After the first time she does so when her breasts are simply too big for her arms, she stops trying.

If you add a gallery function with pictures and stats (see above) the girls that are still able to wear clothes will be featured with two pairs of photos: dressed and undressed. Nude girls not too large to cover up will do so (random chance of covering either their breasts and their crotch) to give off a "coy" or "teasing" look :)

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Here's a suggestion perhaps mostly geared towards weigh gain lovers (it's after all one of tags listed for this thread)...

You can trigger a prize ceremony, you know like in sporting events with a podium with a 1st place, and 2nd and 3rd runner-ups.

This would crown the three currently heaviest (largest volume?) girls, where breast and size (or volume) is added together with belly size. The size (or volume) of a girl's belly is of course much more temporary, but it could also be the deciding factor - since, as you know very well, a girl can be filled up with insane amounts of cum, which then translates to a relatively lesser degree of breast or ass growth*.

Anyway, the player presses a hotkey, and you get a "winning" screen with the three girls cheering on a podium and perhaps even a bit of screen candy (ideas: wearing a laurel, ribbon or medal, a bit of glitter raining down, a sound effect). Press any key to continue (so the player has time to do a screen shot!) Maybe have this cost a liter of cum or something, so it isn't infinitely repeatable.

*) you know better than I the exact ratio of cum to growth. I can only see that ingesting a certain volume of cum translates into maybe a quarter of size increase, but it's hard to tell more exactly...

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Just piling on... (don't feel you need to implement all my suggestions at once... ;) )

Maybe there could be a way to make individual girls able to act on their own, automatically feeding their breast milk or ass juice to the nearest guy.

I do realize this could reduce the game into nothing, basically a "demo" where if the game does the hard work for you, all sense of accomplishment is robbed from the player. So this should be a special reward, say pay 5 liters of cum to promote a single girl to foreman.

Earlier I suggested these supervisor or otherwise "promoted" girls could, if left to wander randomly, run towards a cock that's about to erupt to sit on it (or drink from it), but here I'm more thinking about how hectic and unmanageable the game can become if you have many girls working at the same time. With enough girls and/or big enough girls, eventually you'll end up with at least one girl starting to drip (indicating her breasts or ass is full of juice) every second, and there's no time other than letting them sit or breastfeed guys.

If "special" girls could handle themselves, you would still be busy directing the other girls, but you would also have an "end game like" reason to keep collecting cum (because this could would increase exponentially just like the costs for more girls and guys) - efficient operations would basically require at least some girls doing tasks automatically, or eventually you'll see it rain ass cum and breast milk all over the screen.

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Another "maybe for later" idea:

I would love it if the guys could sit or stand by themselves.

I would love it if a guy with a raging hard-on that's getting blue balls (see suggestion above) would stand up and find a girl that's otherwise unoccupied (=randomly walking around) to fuck or facefuck. He simply can't stand the ache any longer. The girls do understand he needs release, and do their best to drain his balls of every drop.

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This would also allow my dream of a DP - where a girl that sits on one cock gets a second cock in her mouth, both guys cumming inside her at the same time. Maybe this could give extra bonus points of some sort!
 
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Another bug.

the FPS (frames per second) can drop precariously. Seemingly for no reason.

You can end the game (please add an option to do this in the settings menu) and start it again to make the game speedy again, but just to let you know.

Edit: I am pretty certain the slowdowns are related to having more rooms (or at least having people in other rooms), Lerd0 - I didn't have any problems whatsoever when I stayed in the Factory and purchased no extra rooms.
Edit 2: Things can definitely get weird even with only a single room.

After a game has played a long while, and you have grown one or more guy's cock and/or balls to monumental dimensions, even if you sell off ALL your guys and ALL your girls (not "erase progress" but manually selling everybody), even brand new guys/futas - with the smallest cocks and balls possible - can still cum nearly endlessly, filling a brand new girl's belly to overflowing the entire screen after minutes and minutes of continuously cumming. When this happens the FPS also plummets for some reason.

Not sure what's going on or what is causing the slowdowns. There must be some variable the program currently fails to reset for new guys, or a mixup where a brand new guy is reusing the old values of a data structure that previously belonged to a super well-endowned guy you just sold. Unless, of course, you are intentionally rewarding longer playthrus with some form of epic cum production. :love:

But there's no consistency. One time a huge cock with massive balls can cum for maybe 20 seconds while a brand new tiny cocks cums for 10 minutes straight. The next time that huge cock simply won't stop cumming. If this is intentional, okay... sure? (It's not that I'm complaining exactly) If it is a bug, it sure is a weird one, though. Just saying it isn't always the SAME guy that cums for minutes while the other guys cum for regular amounts of time.

You can even, if you're reasonably quick, pull one girl of that cumming cock, and let another girl drink from or sit on it, but this usually triggers some kind of recalculation that means the ejaculation soon ends.

Closing the program (more like terminating the process) and starting up cumfactory.exe again means that the cumming stops, the girl is released from drinking (but with a gargantuan belly), and the FPS is restored to full speed. But chances are, that (brand new) cock will soon cum "endlessly" again.

The only parameters I can guess are related are: the chance of this happening is massively increased by the game running slow and jerky. Perhaps you're using timers in your ejaculation code, and this code goes haywire if the time between frames get unexpectedly long...?

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To try to be constructive - if this isn't intentional, maybe reuse the idea in the following way (I would hate if you made the chance of getting a "super ejaculation" go away entirely, even if you never planned for there to be one in the first place):

Let's assume a guy's cock and balls currently make for a 20 second ejaculation. But when a guy is drinking from a girl (her breasts or pussy) that timer is suspended. He keeps cumming "for free" while he's drinking.

PS. I realize your code probably doesn't use a timer, but instead keeps track "he's capable of cumming 2 liters" and detracts a certain amount with each ejaculation. In this case, breastfeeding the guy simply won't detract from the total 2 liters, even though more cum is deposited in the girl he's cumming into. I think you get the idea...

This way even if you decide to fix the "bug" (and prevent the slowdowns) you still retain the idea of epic cum loads, and introduce a measure of "player skill" as well! :)

If all these "bug reports" seem vague and confusing... I would love to help, but it's hard to be precise without seeing some actual code.
 
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Maybe a stupid question: is the version we can download from this thread here at f95 (1.01) the same as "version 3", the version you get to download after purchasing the game? (You've earned your smackaroonies from me either way, so I'm just curious.)

By the way, I just now saw the comments over at the itch.io site. You certainly have gotten a lot of feedback. Good luck with whatever updates you feel like doing! But just so you know, you have a real winner on your hands - this game can become much MUCH bigger than most other game efforts*! Either way have a good one :)

*) of a comparable nature, of course
 
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I love the idea and the mechanics are mostly here to make something fun, but a little more definition or just more appealing sprites, better connected sprite nodes, that's something we could use.
It's like half the way there to being hot. I think the author should really bank on how scaling affects these things and give us more definition, the cock and balls growing is really great and the rest flatlines and starts breaking.
 
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