RPGM Completed The Curse of Kubel [v2.02+DLC] [Yasagure Kitsuenjyo/Kagura Games]

[Stormen]

DO NOT READ THIS IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED
I found this so thought sharing it here. Not everybody want's to play this game but may want to know how it ends.
All the credit goes to Michaelman89

Spoiler: Some Endings Explained.

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I played this game once, when i came out because the CG's are amazing.
I'm tho abit sad it NTR focused. Not my cup tea. but people that like NTR will love this game.

Late to the party, but while i enjoy NTR games i do prefer the challenge. A game where the NTR is set in stone and the ending has NTR elements i loose my interest. I enjoy the challenge and thril that comes from player agency, this has little. Play as good as you want, it'll still be a shit end.

But really what happened with this title? The story was pretty darn good up to the point where they went into that library then the writing became "Uhhh imma grab her by the pussy and fuk her brains out" and that's the shift the game seem to take.

 

[Shirokame]

Any1 can share about pay content pls

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[unique. The specified use]

Rant.

God damn was that prologue long and a hell to slog through. I'm not usually one for NTR, but I got sick of the dude very early on when Magneto got cussed yet he was still smiling and holding her back like seriously; there's a difference between being amiable and being a doormat.

Sure he was ahead of others in one field because of his grandmother, but that doesn't make him a genius - rather, his actions before he got the curse and the flashbacks just proved that he got a lot of help from his grandmother and from Magneto in his youth. But now that they're a bit older he can't even do his job properly; like, he's a freaking alchemist who's going around gathering samples, but the one who notices the smell first is the pyromaniac who would have had her nose filled with the smell of burnt corpses? Wow, just wow.

Kid Magetano might praise his intellect and creativity a lot, but she was also able to do what Cero learned from Rine throughout his early life in a matter of weeks. Love is blind indeed.

Rant over, now that I'm done with the prologue I'mma try to NTR her as soon as possible. Tho if I get more flashbacks with Cero I might just dip.

Nvm, she's a complete idiot. She couldn't lie to the two adventurers to protect a secret, she let a buffoon inside a library full of forbidden tomes, and asdhsagjsagfjbfeb!!@@!@!#@#@Q$!@! Bah, she and Cero deserve each other.

 

[HURTLOVER21]

Ping if there is an android port

 

[FallenMelty]

Late to the party, but while i enjoy NTR games i do prefer the challenge. A game where the NTR is set in stone and the ending has NTR elements i loose my interest. I enjoy the challenge and thril that comes from player agency, this has little. Play as good as you want, it'll still be a shit end.

But really what happened with this title? The story was pretty darn good up to the point where they went into that library then the writing became "Uhhh imma grab her by the pussy and fuk her brains out" and that's the shift the game seem to take.

I am late too, but totally agree. Just want to share some toughts to ease a little of my frustration.
In my first playthrough I was good enough to solve the game's main difficulties in a couple of ingame days and to reach the ending with only few lewd points very quickly. But in the end, as a player, I feel myself robbed by developers, just because they decided to put this shit in the ending. Just to trick player and annoy him, it doesn't even fit the story at all and has some logical errors (with other endings and some other things). And as a player I was given a challenge and some choice, but that choice ended up not being a real one. This is a really bad decision in game development.

Spoiler: A little bit more about endings

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I absolutely like Magetano, without that corruption shit (and stupid endings) she is a well written character, she doesn't deserve all that. Yes, I know it's a hentai and NTR, but that's no excuse for bad game and story development and logical errors.
Still good writing and setup, but such a disappointment and wasated potential.

 

[uglywolf]

...I'd like to PERSONALLY put a 'remark' to that.
Rather than 'wasted' potential. It should be 'misused' potential.

But, then again, only those who had the said capability has the rights on how to utilize them.

 

[Ion.TemUS]

I liked the game.
I get what you mean, choice would have been nice.
But I found that over the years I tend to enjoy the games the best where the FMC does not decide to just become unfaithful because she is disloyal and degenerate or because she is just stupid. The issue is if you want that you need to actually create a scenario where she actively feels like she is forced to comply. Yes there are games that do it differently, but in all of those the FMC is basically stupid and allows herself to be blackmailed or controlled for stupid reasons, which decreases the impact of the NTR. And in the other kind of NTR the FMC is just a sex addict and starts sleeping around. There is very few shows that give you a somewhat plausible excuse for the FMC to go along with the blackmail or coercion.

That being said, I see why some people are upset that there is no option to influence the plot in a way that allows the FMC to free herself of the actual corruption properly at some point in the game and that the gameplay elements become boring after the intro.

 

[FallenMelty]

I liked the game.
I get what you mean, choice would have been nice.
But I found that over the years I tend to enjoy the games the best where the FMC does not decide to just become unfaithful because she is disloyal and degenerate or because she is just stupid. The issue is if you want that you need to actually create a scenario where she actively feels like she is forced to comply. Yes there are games that do it differently, but in all of those the FMC is basically stupid and allows herself to be blackmailed or controlled for stupid reasons, which decreases the impact of the NTR. And in the other kind of NTR the FMC is just a sex addict and starts sleeping around. There is very few shows that give you a somewhat plausible excuse for the FMC to go along with the blackmail or coercion.

That being said, I see why some people are upset that there is no option to influence the plot in a way that allows the FMC to free herself of the actual corruption properly at some point in the game and that the gameplay elements become boring after the intro.

Thanks for your toughts. I agree, it makes sense. I think it would be perfect if the FMC wasn't a dumb slut not only during the plot setup, but had other emotions, feelings and motivations besides lust until the end.
But don't get me wrong, I did enjoy the game in a certain way as well.
I just wish for two things:
1. Endings were more logical, more polished, and more consistent with each other and with gameplay choices.
2. The relationship between Maget and Bazria (and Bazria himself) was better written with more trops and stories.

 

[Daeyn1]

how do I open the backlog/read previous text? Scroll up mouse wheel doesn't work

 

[uglywolf]

how do I open the backlog/read previous text? Scroll up mouse wheel doesn't work

Since it was made with Kadokawa's RPG Maker engine, it should be around [ Q W E A S D ]. Been a long time I've done playing so I actually forgot if it really was, though.

 

[Daeyn1]

Since it was made with Kadokawa's RPG Maker engine, it should be around [ Q W E A S D ]. Been a long time I've done playing so I actually forgot if it really was, though.

I tried this, but it doesn't seem to work

 

[MeiQer]

I absolutely like Magetano, without that corruption shit (and stupid endings) she is a well written character, she doesn't deserve all that.

I completely sympathize, maybe a little too much. That "True End" (lol) of Kubel destroyed my libido for a solid couple of weeks when I first played it. Is there no justice in Yasagure Kitsuenjo world?

But as for the reasoning behind it (aside from a last cheeky jab at invested players), that bastard kid is supposed to be a consequence of Majetano and Sero's decision to hide the forbidden tomes and use them to cure her mana cancer thingy.
It's not perfectly conveyed in this game, really, so it's easy to miss.
"Misfortune inevitably follows the violation of taboo" or however it's phrased in the Kagura version.
It's conveyed a better in the prequel (neverever) game where the we see the MC use a tome for perfectly innocent reasons, and how life takes a giant heaping shit on her afterwards.
The idea is that in ends B, C, and D they don't recover the tome from Bazria, so Majetano has maybe ~15 years left on the clock... but no brown brat.
Well, that was until Kubel+ added the expanded C ending. From the ending there, I think the idea there is that the depth and viciousness of Majetano's betrayal builds up so much bad karma that it leaks over to the "good" Route A one.

On the above point about heroines making stupid mistakes under pressure... First I'd say that any NTR blackmail plot is gonna have some degree of contrivance, but I don't mind it so much in this case. The girls are merely fallible humans. I think it makes them seem extra pure, vulnerable and worth protecting, but I have a soured white knight streak like that.

 

[FallenMelty]

I completely sympathize, maybe a little too much. That "True End" (lol) of Kubel destroyed my libido for a solid couple of weeks when I first played it. Is there no justice in Yasagure Kitsuenjo world?

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Oh, that's interesting explanation. I had kept the story of misfortune and taboo violations in mind, but didn't see it from Maget's perspective. But I'm not sure it makes the endings any better, though.
I'll describe my thoughts on this, but just in case, I'll remind you that even with all the flaws I listed, I like this game. It made me think about what was going on and empathize strongly with FMC.

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On the above point about heroines making stupid mistakes under pressure... First I'd say that any NTR blackmail plot is gonna have some degree of contrivance, but I don't mind it so much in this case. The girls are merely fallible humans. I think it makes them seem extra pure, vulnerable and worth protecting, but I have a soured white knight streak like that.

I totally agree with the statement that girls are just regular people and all people can make mistakes. The main thing is to present it in a way that makes it easy to believe. Judging by how often it's not handled, that's quite a challenge.
So personally, I'm fine with both FMC who are slutty and prone to fall from the start and strong girls who need to be broken first (and yeah I always want to protect both of them too lol).

 

[uglywolf]

Apparently, most of the time, the plot goes with "The partner unable to do anything, let alone saving/preventing. Since they tend to to be incapacitated(bound/cursed/sick/hostage/forcibly parted or anything similar)". Seems to be overused from my own experience.

 

[whateveryousayyo]

Late to the party, but while i enjoy NTR games i do prefer the challenge. A game where the NTR is set in stone and the ending has NTR elements i loose my interest. I enjoy the challenge and thril that comes from player agency, this has little. Play as good as you want, it'll still be a shit end.

But really what happened with this title? The story was pretty darn good up to the point where they went into that library then the writing became "Uhhh imma grab her by the pussy and fuk her brains out" and that's the shift the game seem to take.

Yeah, for all the criticism this game gets, it's actually the quintessential ntr game. NTR/cuckolding is entirely a voluntary act. You don't want to see NTR here? Then get good. Don't get hit.

 

[たかしろ]

This game sucks, reading the comments here regarding the other endings of B-D I didn't bother to get makes sense, but Ending A basically pisses off all of my choices and work to let her stay "pure" just to give birth to the PoS's n***a baby after marry her childhood crush, like I know this is a porn game but wow, way to throw away the hard grind us players had to do, dev.

 

[Senn211]

This game sucks, reading the comments here regarding the other endings of B-D I didn't bother to get makes sense, but Ending A basically pisses off all of my choices and work to let her stay "pure" just to give birth to the PoS's n***a baby after marry her childhood crush, like I know this is a porn game but wow, way to throw away the hard grind us players had to do, dev.

I like the sense of inevitability and bleakness it creates this way. This is an NTR game through and through and the game never shies away from that.

 

[Ion.TemUS]

I completely sympathize, maybe a little too much. That "True End" (lol) of Kubel destroyed my libido for a solid couple of weeks when I first played it. Is there no justice in Yasagure Kitsuenjo world?

But as for the reasoning behind it (aside from a last cheeky jab at invested players), that bastard kid is supposed to be a consequence of Majetano and Sero's decision to hide the forbidden tomes and use them to cure her mana cancer thingy.
It's not perfectly conveyed in this game, really, so it's easy to miss.
"Misfortune inevitably follows the violation of taboo" or however it's phrased in the Kagura version.
It's conveyed a better in the prequel (neverever) game where the we see the MC use a tome for perfectly innocent reasons, and how life takes a giant heaping shit on her afterwards.
The idea is that in ends B, C, and D they don't recover the tome from Bazria, so Majetano has maybe ~15 years left on the clock... but no brown brat.
Well, that was until Kubel+ added the expanded C ending. From the ending there, I think the idea there is that the depth and viciousness of Majetano's betrayal builds up so much bad karma that it leaks over to the "good" Route A one.

On the above point about heroines making stupid mistakes under pressure... First I'd say that any NTR blackmail plot is gonna have some degree of contrivance, but I don't mind it so much in this case. The girls are merely fallible humans. I think it makes them seem extra pure, vulnerable and worth protecting, but I have a soured white knight streak like that.

I really hope Yasagure will finish one of their 3 games this year
It hurt so much to see them being maybe 3/4 into the development of the second game and just shelving it to work on the new knight-game. I mean both of these games (knight game, prequel) look good and promising, it just takes a longass time to start from scratch, and the second game was already like 2-3 years in development on and off. I don't want to wait another 3 years for the knight-game and 5 years for the second game......

 

[Bl3kB0i]

It's conveyed a better in the prequel

what prequel game?

 

[FallenMelty]

what prequel game?

This one I guess Absolvement of Viscaria