RPGM Completed The Curse of Pleasure [v1.0] [RanneRo]

[EdgeOfShadow]

Lol, people saying that coding takes a lot of time have no idea what they are talking about, assuming you know what you are doing and that you are not actively sabotaging yourself in various ways it would take less time to code a scene than to write it. Way less.

The only bottlenecks i could see are creating art and implementing it into that convoluted modular model system.

Speaking of convoluted modular model system,

i like both games but The Curse of Pleasure is in whole another level my dude, just check the amount of work done in the Art department, as for SKA v0.19 there are 340 files in the Pictures folder, while on TCoP 0.8 there is a whoping 4157 files! damn boy thats thick ass folder.

Those 4157 files translate to exactly how many scenes? 20? That's what i've meant by not actively sabotaging yourself.

 

[gzrtjhgtyhjljk]

Lol, people saying that coding takes a lot of time have no idea what they are talking about, assuming you know what you are doing and that you are not actively sabotaging yourself in various ways it would take less time to code a scene than to write it. Way less.

The only bottlenecks i could see are creating art and implementing it into that convoluted modular model system.

Speaking of convoluted modular model system,

Those 4157 files translate to exactly how many scenes? 20? That's what i've meant by not actively sabotaging yourself.

Try looking at the code before making stupid assumptions.

 

[「S」- Man]

Lol, people saying that coding takes a lot of time have no idea what they are talking about, assuming you know what you are doing and that you are not actively sabotaging yourself in various ways it would take less time to code a scene than to write it. Way less.

The only bottlenecks i could see are creating art and implementing it into that convoluted modular model system.

Speaking of convoluted modular model system,

Those 4157 files translate to exactly how many scenes? 20? That's what i've meant by not actively sabotaging yourself.

And which situation do you think we are dealing here? One of an expert coding that is just lazy, and sabotaging himself, or maybe that the author is mainly an illustrator that had to teach himself how to code while mantaining other jobs while he does this game as a hobby/side-hustle.
Or maybe a third one, that is even crazier then this 2 and will blow my mind.

 

[Ion.TemUS]

Is this game somehow inspired by Sangeko no Gear ? It feels eerily similar. Or is that just because they both have the same RPG maker as a base?

Also how shota-heavy is the game?

 

[「S」- Man]

Is this game somehow inspired by Sangeko no Gear ? It feels eerily similar. Or is that just because they both have the same RPG maker as a base?

Also how shota-heavy is the game?

It is, the dev used the same scripts for some mechanics like cloathin, exposure, etc.

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

And which situation do you think we are dealing here? One of an expert coding that is just lazy, and sabotaging himself, or maybe that the author is mainly an illustrator that had to teach himself how to code while mantaining other jobs while he does this game as a hobby/side-hustle.
Or maybe a third one, that is even crazier then this 2 and will blow my mind.

What expert? You only need to know the very basics to start off and after a year or two you will be good enough when it comes to engines like RPGM or Ren'Py, not to mention 5 years, what you said would make sense 4-5 years ago. This "side-hustle" brings him really good money without any commitments, hell in my country with this montly paycheck i could just quit my main job and i would still be quite a bit better off than average.

This is just RPGM, while to master and expand it would require some real time and effort (like Karryn's Prison), in order to get good enough you just need maybe a month with one hour a day. Double that if you have completely no idea how anything using electricity works.

This dev have 5 years of experience coding in this engine, get a grip.

 

[「S」- Man]

What expert? You only need to know the very basics to start off and after a year or two you will be good enough when it comes to engines like RPGM or Ren'Py, not to mention 5 years, what you said would make sense 4-5 years ago. This "side-hustle" brings him really good money without any commitments, hell in my country with this montly paycheck i could just quit my main job and i would still be quite a bit better off than average.

This is just RPGM, while to master and expand it would require some real time and effort (like Karryn's Prison), in order to get good enough you just need maybe a month with one hour a day. Double that if you have completely no idea how anything using electricity works.

This dev have 5 years of experience coding in this engine, get a grip.

Exactly, Karryn’s Prison is a game done by REM that focuses only on coding and have 5 years of exp doing only that, while Sachinama did the artwork for the game and the result of this is amazing.
But i would dare you to look at Sachinama old games were he did coding + artwork and try argue they are as good as Karryn's Prision or Melty's Quest.
Basicaly i am not arguing that is impossible to learn how to use RPGM on 5 years, what i am saying is lone coding is not as easy as you think it is, most well done projects either are done big specialized teams or if you do it alone it will simply take a lot of time.
But i am absolutly open to reconsider that if you show any example of a game you know that was done solely by 1 person and was great and was done quickly.

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

Exactly, Karryn’s Prison is a game done by REM that focuses only on coding and have 5 years of exp doing only that, while Sachinama did the artwork for the game and the result of this is amazing.
But i would dare you to look at Sachinama old games were he did coding + artwork and try argue they are as good as Karryn's Prision or Melty's Quest.
Basicaly i am not arguing that is impossible to learn how to use RPGM on 5 years, what i am saying is lone coding is not as easy as you think it is, most well done projects either are done big specialized teams or if you do it alone it will simply take a lot of time.
But i am absolutly open to reconsider that if you show any example of a game you know that was done solely by 1 person and was great and was done quickly.

Caliross, just off the top of my head, i saw a similar question before and someone listed around a dozen single devs with high quality games and regular updates. I would list more games, but i'm not following which games are made by single devs and which are made by teams, but there is quite a few of them.
The Way was also made by a single dev, but he got discouraged with how unpopular it was for no reason and eventually dropped it. Defenestration was made by a single dev too, but he eventually started milking patrons too, and then his country got attacked (Ukraine).

Oh, and don't be like "i am not arguing that is impossible to learn how to use RPGM on 5 years", it's impossible to NOT learn it in a year of using it, so stop with the semantics.

 

[Everestti]

the post says Thread Updated: 2020-11-14, is this abandoned?

 

[UniqueUsernameDoNotCopy]

Defenestration was made by a single dev too, but he eventually started milking patrons too

Can you explain how RanneRo is "milking patrons" by providing them with information of exactly what he's going to work on the next month before they get billed, stopping billing entirely when he takes breaks and warning people ahead of time that the update will not come for X amounts of months thus saving anybody who just wants the update ahead of free release from paying for a month when the game isn't coming out?
I don't get why every time we get someone arguing about RanneRo's (in)ability to put out frequent updates they feel the need to assume malice on his part even though all the evidence suggest that he is anything but malicious to his patrons.

 

[Ion.TemUS]

Is there a walkthrough for this?
Im after the bandit camp and want to raise exposure level. I always see the potential being raised but not the level. How do I do that?

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

Can you explain how RanneRo is "milking patrons" by providing them with information of exactly what he's going to work on the next month before they get billed, stopping billing entirely when he takes breaks and warning people ahead of time that the update will not come for X amounts of months thus saving anybody who just wants the update ahead of free release from paying for a month when the game isn't coming out?
I don't get why every time we get someone arguing about RanneRo's (in)ability to put out frequent updates they feel the need to assume malice on his part even though all the evidence suggest that he is anything but malicious to his patrons.

Oh, i'm not assuming malice, i can't read minds, instead i just take stuff at dry, face value: gets paid but there are no updates or updates lack content -> milking, intentionally or not.

 

[UniqueUsernameDoNotCopy]

gets paid but there are no updates

Except like I said he pauses Patreon when he won't work that month

updates lack content

He posts what he will work on that month and rarely doesn't finish the goals he sets

I just don't understand how someone that tells you exactly what he is going to do (providing you with the choice to give him money for that work or not) and then does that thing is "milking" you.

 

[EdgeOfShadow]

He posts what he will work on that month and rarely doesn't finish the goals he sets

I just don't understand how someone that tells you exactly what he is going to do (providing you with the choice to give him money for that work or not) and then does that thing is "milking" you.

I'm afraid that's wrong thread for this discussion and i will gracefully dodge it asking you to post that in Defenestration thread .

 

[pcaf]

Oh, i'm not assuming malice, i can't read minds, instead i just take stuff at dry, face value: gets paid but there are no updates or updates lack content -> milking, intentionally or not.

Under normal circumstances I would be inclined to agree with your argument. However unlike other known milkers, this game is completely free to download.

 

[MugiwaraPrince]

the post says Thread Updated: 2020-11-14, is this abandoned?

I'm going to answer this two ways:
"Is the game abandoned?" No. If you read the last few pages of posts or check in on the links for the creator you can see there is an estimated release of an update within the year. Most likely that date is when the original post at the top of page one was edited.
"Is the thread abandoned?" No. Not only is everyone who actually follows this project updating those of us who don't, but there are a legion of people complaining about the creator giving us a timeframe and how he takes patreon money while he is working on the game (and does not accept money during any month he makes no progress, but no one complaining admits to that point.)
Also, every week or two someone asks "Is this abandoned" and most times that post directly follows a post in the thread showing current progress.
*Bracing myself now for the next post that will wonder why there isn't text showing on the title screen.*

 

[AnonSS00]

I'm going to answer this two ways:
"Is the game abandoned?" No. If you read the last few pages of posts or check in on the links for the creator you can see there is an estimated release of an update within the year. Most likely that date is when the original post at the top of page one was edited.
"Is the thread abandoned?" No. Not only is everyone who actually follows this project updating those of us who don't, but there are a legion of people complaining about the creator giving us a timeframe and how he takes patreon money while he is working on the game (and does not accept money during any month he makes no progress, but no one complaining admits to that point.)
Also, every week or two someone asks "Is this abandoned" and most times that post directly follows a post in the thread showing current progress.
*Bracing myself now for the next post that will wonder why there isn't text showing on the title screen.*

Dude, chill.

 

[mattrixatp]

Considering 0.8 was 2 and a half years ago, the current change log is not very helpful and that people don't know how to use the super helpful Search... it's understandable why they keep asking the same questions. Last time I checked the "next update" was supposed to be 2 months ago.

PS: Can someone make the yellow text BIGGER so at least one of those questions is no longer asked on every page.

 

[Shynasha]

What am I supposed to do after I get cursed and the mayor talked to me ? Seita follow me but no idea what to do

Edit: Found out nevermind, I learned my lesson about skipping...

 

[topperharly]

when i try to start the game it says "unable to find the file graphics/autofiles/001-g_water01. (rest i cant see)"

Edit: solved.