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Ah so its more like "On hold", not Abandoned?
Its Abandoned, it will be otherwise unless he updates it.

Everything is smoke and mirrors at this point, he will maybe update the game in future but he has been stalling it for more than two years now with 0 updates. And who knows how big of an update it is then, maybe he's just chiling out and doesn't want to work on it at all or as hard as he used to.

So save yourself from a disappointment and consider it abandoned. If he releases somthing its a bonus, else don't even bother.
 

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Well, on discord the creator actually uploaded something.
And this invalidates the "you're not working on the game" critique since, if that were the case, he wouldn't have the ability to publish anything.
As for the rest: in any case he is not forced to provide any justification, especially when it comes to certain people used to throwing judgments on the work of person without even knowing anything (this includes even making insinuations about the person that is behind it): the author clearly says in the description he releases update only when he thinks that the quality of the game is good enough to do so, otherwise he does not do that (and this demonstrates the fact that you don't even read the descriptions before posting your toxic comments here or elsewhere).
It seems to me the behavior of a creator who really wants to deliver full and 100% complete games to their audience without a development rush just to get a little more notoriety.
Also in the description the author explains why he works so slow:
"I'm aware of this, but you know, the amount, the quality and the complication of my CGs in one patch could be equally compared to a single mini visual novel. I'm willingly to sacrifice my time over my work's quality.
And most importantly, I'm working alone".
I want to specify: I write these things not because I'm a fanboy, but because I'm doing nothing more than defending the developer from your unfair criticism.
I understand being impatient, especially after 2 years without a proper release, but this is not enough to say "the author has abandoned the project". I have been following amateur video game development teams for a long time and, having quite a bit of experience in this area, I fully understand that things can change dramatically as time goes by: some people leave, others have commitments and don't or can no longer continue, etc.
Believe me: it is normal. I saw plenty of good fanmade games with great potential being abandoned. When you are developing a game there may be severe implications with the passing of time (even mainly due to some RL issues), this happens even when you are working with a team of 30-40 people, so I can imagine how the situation can really get bad , especially when you are just working alone.
And while I perfectly understand a lack of experience and knowledge in how amateur and fanmade projects work, this does not justify toxic behavior anyway.
 
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Well, on discord the creator actually uploaded something.
And this invalidates the "you're not working on the game" critique since, if that were the case, he wouldn't have the ability to publish anything.
As for the rest: in any case he is not forced to provide any justification, especially when it comes to certain people used to throwing judgments on the work of person without even knowing anything: the author clearly says in the description he releases update only he thinks that the quality of the game is good enough to do so, otherwise he does not (and this demonstrates the fact that you don't even read the descriptions before posting your toxic comments here or elsewhere).
It seems to me the behavior of a creator who really wants to deliver full and 100% complete games to their audience without a development rush just to get a little more notoriety.
Also in the description the author explains why he works so slow:
"I'm aware of this, but you know, the amount, the quality and the complication of my CGs in one patch could be equally compared to a single mini visual novel. I'm willingly to sacrifice my time over my work's quality.
And most importantly, I'm working alone".
I want to specify: I write these things not because I'm a fanboy, but because I'm doing nothing more than defending the developer from your unfair criticism.
I understand being impatient, especially after 2 years without a proper release, but this is not enough to say "the author has abandoned the project". I have been following amateur video game development teams for a long time and, having quite a bit of experience in this area, I fully understand that things can change dramatically as time goes by: some people leave, others have commitments and don't. can no longer continue, etc.
Believe me: it is normal. I saw plenty of good fanmade games with great potential being abandoned.
And while I perfectly understand a lack of experience and knowledge in how fangame projects work, this does not justify toxic behavior anyway.
I think that you need to practice your reading comprehension...
 

spokkimax

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I think that you need to practice your reading comprehension...
I think you should reread my comment since I added a lot to it and explained a lot better the situation as well as how the process for the creation of this type of games really works. Short answer: it's perfectly normal for these types of games and developers having severe trouble to go on.
Not to mention when you don't even have a full and proper development team since you are working alone.
 
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HPZAT

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I think you should reread my comment since I added a lot to it and explained a lot better the situation as well as how the process for the creation of this type of games really works. Short answer: it's perfectly normal for these types of games and developers having severe trouble to go on.
Not to mention when you don't even have a full and proper development team since you are working alone.
I wasn't criticizing RanneRo.
 
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spokkimax - "he releases update only when he thinks that the quality of the game is good enough"

Bad game is still better than non-existent game...
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Here is more, if this is important. Free leak of new armit.
Have to disagree. bad game waste people's time. non-existent game is fine, what does non-exiistent game cost you?
 

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Have to disagree. bad game waste people's time. non-existent game is fine, what does non-exiistent game cost you?
IF the game would be bad, we all wouldn't be here. I was sarcastic when I called this curse.. "bad". IF you think that the game is bad and you're hanging around only because you wish it was better, you contradict yourself. It must be a huge waste of time by now. You keep playing this unsatisfying game and Ronnero keeps failing you. You're such a masochist and Rannero is such a failure.
 

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I think he did say at some point that he would change his work flow for the next game, like hiring a programmer or maybe even changing the engine? Been a while so I don't fully remember what it was.

So just chalk it up to sunken cost fallacy I guess? Or just general stubbornness
 
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I think he did say at some point that he would change his work flow for the next game, like hiring a programmer or maybe even changing the engine? Been a while so I don't fully remember what it was.

So just chalk it up to sunken cost fallacy I guess? Or just general stubbornness
Do you honestly think there's anything resembling "next game" about this dude's dev cycle? Maybe around 2030?
 

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Do you honestly think there's anything resembling "next game" about this dude's dev cycle? Maybe around 2030?
I'm with you there, if things stay as they are I doubt there will be. Or if it does indeed happen he might not have enough funds to pay someone. Then again people paying for porn are often gullible so who knows...
 

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I'm with you there, if things stay as they are I doubt there will be. Or if it does indeed happen he might not have enough funds to pay someone. Then again people paying for porn are often gullible so who knows...
We have been joking about this in the discord for months... Rannero isnt even 26. So it wouldnt be crazy to speculate CoP 2 starts development in 2035
 

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IF the game would be bad, we all wouldn't be here. I was sarcastic when I called this curse.. "bad". IF you think that the game is bad and you're hanging around only because you wish it was better, you contradict yourself. It must be a huge waste of time by now. You keep playing this unsatisfying game and Ronnero keeps failing you. You're such a masochist and Rannero is such a failure.
probably you are attacking the wrong person. where do you see I say this game is bad. or you are referring yourself as masochist?
 

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We have been joking about this in the discord for months... Rannero isnt even 26. So it wouldnt be crazy to speculate CoP 2 starts development in 2035
Oh I was never worried about him dying of old age or anything of the sort. It's mostly about the economics of the whole thing, he has a family to provide for so I hope whatever schedule he manages to accomplish lets him make a second and even a third project.
 
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