The dark age of Porn games may be happening sooner...AI Generated works.

[Earliestbird]

AI art is still at its infancy. Quality and consistency will grow immensely in upcoming years. What we have now is just a start.

True, and the same thing applies to developers. AI art or not, people who support their game for a long time and put in effort will rise above the rest. To put them down for the act of using generated images is incredibly immature.

And extra points of hypocrisy since, you know... we're on F95zone for fuck's sake. Complaining about "stealing art" (which Stable Duffusion is not, by the way) on this website is like riding a bicycle while complaining about the existence of wheels.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

And extra points of hypocrisy since, you know... we're on F95zone for fuck's sake. Complaining about "stealing art" (which Stable Duffusion is not, by the way) on this website is like riding a bicycle while complaining about the existence of wheels.

I don't know enough about AI art to come down on it one way or another, but there seem to be a lot of concerns that certain models have been trained on people's art without their permission.

And I don't think being against stolen art on F95 is hypocritical at all. There are different forms of "stealing" and some are worse than others. Playing a "stolen" copy of a game from Patreon or using pirated Daz assets is one thing, basically making shovelware where you slap a bunch of other people's art into Ren'py to make a quick buck is something different. "Games" like that do exist and they usually get shit on hard on this site, rightfully so I think.

 

[desmosome]

I don't know enough about AI art to come down on it one way or another, but there seem to be a lot of concerns that certain models have been trained on people's art without their permission.

And I don't think being against stolen art on F95 is hypocritical at all. There are different forms of "stealing" and some are worse than others. Playing a "stolen" copy of a game from Patreon or using pirated Daz assets is one thing, basically making shovelware where you slap a bunch of other people's art into Ren'py to make a quick buck is something different. "Games" like that do exist and they usually get shit on hard on this site, rightfully so I think.

You don't need permission to imitate someone's style. The AI thing is not any different conceptually from an aspiring artist studying various artists they look up to.

 

[Spettet]

I'm not an artist and cannot draw art useful for a game. If AI art generation works ok, I might be able to provide a kinky story and make a game though.. Actually, gave it a go to try and generate a few images, but my attempts was far from anything useful.

Either way, I say AI generation, if it gets fairly easy to use, will make a lot more people able to write porn games, which I would think most people here would appreciate. As of now, I'm guessing it's still limited because:
- Main stream art generation refuse to make NSFW bits.
- Several entities are fighting NSFW AI generations and are banning groups from sites etc.
- AIs must specifically train on porn related data to be good at generating them. And to be legit, training on a lot of copyrighted material might not be allowed, and the training doesn't only rely on finding images to scan, but also being told what the images trained on are actually pictures of.

 

[dusty stu]

I'm not an artist and cannot draw art useful for a game. If AI art generation works ok, I might be able to provide a kinky story and make a game though.. Actually, gave it a go to try and generate a few images, but my attempts was far from anything useful.

Either way, I say AI generation, if it gets fairly easy to use, will make a lot more people able to write porn games, which I would think most people here would appreciate. As of now, I'm guessing it's still limited because:
- Main stream art generation refuse to make NSFW bits.
- Several entities are fighting NSFW AI generations and are banning groups from sites etc.
- AIs must specifically train on porn related data to be good at generating them. And to be legit, training on a lot of copyrighted material might not be allowed, and the training doesn't only rely on finding images to scan, but also being told what the images trained on are actually pictures of.

rn most of the ai art is being made by horny amateurs on civitai. auto1111 webui can make nsfw no problems.
Here's what I made after practicing for 2 months.

Spoiler: click here for hawt milfs

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JK lol. Here I think this one came out better...

Spoiler: booba

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[ThatGuy_Shaggy]

POV: The last porn game in 2073 (it was made in 5 minutes on Scratch.com by DarkWolf69) making its last stand against AI-Game-Prime after it has just finished assimilating Summertime Saga [Final Version] and Milfy City [It came out of retirement to join the war effort].

 

[haksaw]

How does AI differ from something like DAZ? Anyone can download DAZ and start generating tons of low effort crap. But some DAZ lovers moan that nooo, making good stuff takes a lot of time and effort! Well, it's the same with AI. So why all the outrage?

 

[gunderson]

Eh, this will probably end up raising the bar on what low-end trash looks like, so I'm all for it. I won't pretend the AI art I've seen is amazing yet, but I'll take the best examples of AI NSFW art over all Honey Select shit I've ever seen any day of the week.

 

[bethrezen0]

When the AI art are going to be consistent enough to generate same exact character in different situations, maybe even do sprite-sheets with animation, e.t.c. I'm gonna be all for it. Maybe then devs will actually finish their their games and work at least a bit faster. Even now with enough effort AI art just visually looking more appealing then the typical DAZ renders, so the quality only improves. Making games just by yourself requires a wide variety of skills and not everyone is a jack of all trades. If there is a tool like AI art to make at least one aspect easier, it's a good thing. If you have artistic skills it's even better since you can fix the artifacts and shit that AI generator made, saving a lot of time.

On the other hand with easy tools will come alot of absolutely incompetent shit-makers. So the games themselves probably still won't be any better than RPGM/Ren'py DAZ garbage, or the time when unity was a new thing and steam just flooded with tons of garbage games, asset flips, e.t.c because i guess it was that easy to make some low effort garbage in unity.

 

[Bombmaster]

Is the same situation about cellphones made telling stories shit, cause nothing is really urgent with everyone hugging their phones.

Why many stories try to be in the 80/early 90s before the world got connected.


Less about that, now about eroges and AVN.

Started my degeneracy path playing eroges from JP obviously.

Full stories and some static lewd.
We always had porn available and still eroges did something.

Nocturnal illusions/dividead the first ones that did for me.


Decades pass one day found a strange looking 3D game, porn game?

took some adjusting my expectations before my bias could accept this new style. One day found a bigger game and in time got here. I mean found this forum.

Now in retrospect I can't play eroges just can't it feels cheap and lame. Unless a RPG style eroges maybe.

We can support our favorite creators.
Rewarding our preferred kink.

AI art will be interesting. Lost of games already have different styles of renders/art

A more detailed one for main pic a lesser detailed other for Lewds or something.

I welcome the AI art overlords.

 

[Pervtron3000]

Imo AI art is perfect for budget sex games.
How many games use randomly collected images of porn stars already?

 

[MacLovin']

I don’t see the problem with AI art, especially considering that most devs reuse the same cursed daz models all the time. At least AI art looks good. And if the writing is good and the sex is hot, who cares?
I definitely love hand-drawn art, but my current favorite project will be done by 2027 at the rate it’s going

 

[Deleted member 2741424]

Good games will sell. Bad games won't. I don't care if they're AI or not -- I'm only concerned with the quality of the games.

 

[Qwenlog]

Heh, the games currently using AI art where already games that where going to be crap anyway. For now. If the group making the game can't manage to secure a good artist or the fund to hire one, it's very likely that not much effort was put into the rest of the game. Just look on dlsite at all the games with art that look like it has been made by a grade schooler and make you wonder how anyone can buy it. Or some studios that pump out low effort games really fast with attractive preview images but nothing much once you start playing. These are the kinds of games that are going to use the most AI generated art. For these games, it's an improvement. For the customers, it make sorting the potential good games at first glance harder (unless you filter the tag, of course). There is also the fact that many aspiring devs that where hesitating until now because they didn't have a way to get good art are trying with it now.
On the other end, once the tech get more advanced, it's going to be used by most games, but we are currently quite far from it.
For now, competent devs will see that everyone hate it and stay away from it, new and low effort devs will try their chances with it, and scammers will use it while trying to persuade you that they don't. Anyway, on the current market, it's a massive red flag that you should stay away from.

 

[MissBumhole]

Well look at where we are now...

 

[Slamjax]

How does AI differ from something like DAZ? Anyone can download DAZ and start generating tons of low effort crap. But some DAZ lovers moan that nooo, making good stuff takes a lot of time and effort! Well, it's the same with AI. So why all the outrage?

I agree with this. Things like AI and DAZ3D are just tools - it's what you do with them that counts.
Higher thought, polish and effort will be reflected in the final product, so good games will still generally rise to the top. The only issue is there *may* be more trash to sift through until you can find the gems.

 

[Erosoft]

I personally don't mind the AI art so much. Nowadays it can create some very nice looking images that are more than appropriate to use in an eroge. Still doesn't beat a talented artist, but let's be real, most people using AI art would be making some junk using shots from Daz or Koikatsu which would be worse.

 

[chainedpanda]

IMO, it's just fear mongering. AI work will only get better overtime. There is no way for people to get better at it, unless they actually use it.

The exact same honeymoon happened with the render engines we currently use. Games today, even when using the same/similar engine, look significantly better than they used to. The main reason is simply because as a community, our understanding of the software has improved. (ofc, improvements in the software itself has had a significant impact.)

I fully believe that once we start to learn more about AI as a community, and useful tools are developed to assist creators, it will revolutionize adult gaming.

We have always been a hobbyist community. Many great games were created by complete armatures who've never touched any aspect of game development or any form of artistic hobby/career. Just a few years ago, when someone complained about a game, someone would just say "make your own". and although it sounds pretentious, it was actually kind of true. But today, it's become much more difficult for new developers to start their projects. Not only is there the global economic issue to deal with, but also player expectations and demands have risen dramatically.

So, I see the possibility as AI as our chance to correct this. Go back to a time when this hobby was accessible to everyone. Sure, we will get flooded with garbage, but within that garbage there will be some gems. I've always had to sorted through seemingly endless amounts of garbage for a handful of decent projects. I don't see why this would be any different. As I play more AI created/assisted games, I'll start knowing what to look for, what to avoid, etc. Just like I do now.