The latest version. I tried to help Pila find her flower, but she just sprints off and attacks. I tried to be extra careful too.
Same with the warrior woman.
Same with the warrior woman.
Change their combat settings to stay or don't attack.
On stay they will stay in one place on the map and only move to attack enemies that come near them.
On don't attack they'll just follow you instead of making a suicide rush.
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I don't know what's called that's why I called it the dialogue action box (i know i wrong pls correct me)
this thing
I don't know what's called that's why I called it the dialogue action box (i know i wrong pls correct me)
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Also, the latest version has orders like "Move as a group (radius x)", which makes companions keep within a certain radius of you.
Not yet dev did say he wanted to do something for spells/books specifically
Also found a minor bug. If a companion is on an item in a treasure room when you take a different item they will be stuck there for the floor.
Also just a personal request I'd like the old AI setting to still be available, with spin attack being an option for the AI if you gear it properly I think it would handle itself well. Current one is great at survival for companion so I'd say a huge plus for the new options. Overall I noticed the AI likes to spam spin attack a lot which it will try to do even with low follow range which causes a lot of wasted movement for the AI.
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I plan to address this; in the meantime you can put the item back down to remove the glass walls
I will re-add
Ah thanks for noticing this
Right now the AI positions itself to do spin attacks that do as much total damage as possible but I think this is wrong because it's bad to be surrounded. I'll change it so the AI more or less behaves as if it didn't have a spin attack but uses it if it makes sense to do so (which is how a human player might use it against strong enemies)
Just finished my playthrough on this, and honestly, this has quickly become one of my favorite games in a long time. In a sea of AI releases and HS2/DAZ model VNs this kind of game really stood out to be. The art is also really good.
The only thing that took me a while to work around was that I didn't feel like I could see a very straighforward method to be stronger and progress. Past B7, all I could do was burn through items to survive. I guess that is the design and part of the grind/crawl style, but I found it hard to make my character stronger.
Aside from that? It was all great for the scope of the game. I enjoyed the combat, the art, the characters and the progression.
The only thing that took me a while to work around was that I didn't feel like I could see a very straighforward method to be stronger and progress. Past B7, all I could do was burn through items to survive. I guess that is the design and part of the grind/crawl style, but I found it hard to make my character stronger.
Aside from that? It was all great for the scope of the game. I enjoyed the combat, the art, the characters and the progression.
This game has amazing potential. The writing's way above average here, the art is pretty, and I love roguelikes.
I wish key repeat was slower or configurable. Too often I press a key for slightly too long and make multiple inputs, which could get you killed in a roguelike (although you seem to not die in this game thankfully).
I wish there was a modifier key to wind up the hammer attack instead of moving. You can do it by going into the options menu, but...
I wish rest wasn't bound to numberpad 5 in vikeys mode. I use vikeys because I don't HAVE a numberpad. I do have autohotkey but I shouldn't have to use it to rebind keys.
I would like to issue a general caution that followers are often irritating to play with in authentic roguelikes. You need followers to make smart decisions because the combat is challenging, but the AI usually can't do it. And micromanaging followers is annoying or totally untenable because the finely detailed positioning and very short turns mean you have to intervene far too often. I'm not saying it can't be done better, but it requires a lot of thought and care and maybe some unconventional innovations to be good; so far the game hasn't really proven me wrong and followers are mostly tolerable because the game is easier than other roguelikes. In a non-gameplay sense I love the idea of dungeon diving with companions and bonding with tem, but the mechanics must not make it a chore to do so.
I wish key repeat was slower or configurable. Too often I press a key for slightly too long and make multiple inputs, which could get you killed in a roguelike (although you seem to not die in this game thankfully).
I wish there was a modifier key to wind up the hammer attack instead of moving. You can do it by going into the options menu, but...
I wish rest wasn't bound to numberpad 5 in vikeys mode. I use vikeys because I don't HAVE a numberpad. I do have autohotkey but I shouldn't have to use it to rebind keys.
I would like to issue a general caution that followers are often irritating to play with in authentic roguelikes. You need followers to make smart decisions because the combat is challenging, but the AI usually can't do it. And micromanaging followers is annoying or totally untenable because the finely detailed positioning and very short turns mean you have to intervene far too often. I'm not saying it can't be done better, but it requires a lot of thought and care and maybe some unconventional innovations to be good; so far the game hasn't really proven me wrong and followers are mostly tolerable because the game is easier than other roguelikes. In a non-gameplay sense I love the idea of dungeon diving with companions and bonding with tem, but the mechanics must not make it a chore to do so.
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Thanks for the feedback; I have noted all of it.
Rest SHOULD be [space] in vikeys, thanks for catching that bug.
And perhaps it's not communicated well but you can select "Vi-like Controls" to set most of the controls and then use "Custom Controls" to change the keybinding for Rest.
I agree that it's hard to make followers that aren't short-term summons work
Honestly I had some moments of existential angst where I felt like the game was fundamentally doomed bc of this issue
However at this point I'm in too deep lol so I will just do the best that I can.
So far what I've done is:
* implemented a pathfinder class which reuses data from previous calculations so it a monster can calculate 10+ paths per turn (e.g. a spear user needs to calculate paths to all locations from which it can hit a monster w/ a spear)
* implemented the "danger squares", which companions and human enemies consider when pathfinding (allows companions to avoid fireballs, etc.)
* thanks to f95 feedback implemented a "move as a group" ai which is less suicidal
I hope I can find more improvements / adjustments over time which make the companion ai more tolerable, perhaps even fun
Let me know if you have any ideas.
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Released 0.6.11
Started to address low hanging fruit in recent feedback. Still have a lot more to go.
Started to address low hanging fruit in recent feedback. Still have a lot more to go.
- Added a gallery where you can see sex scenes you've seen before. It's in the game menu.
- Change how monster ai (which includes companion ai) values spin attack. Before, it considered total expected damage. Now, it considers max damage to one target plus a minor bonus for additional targets. This prevents companions from becoming surrounded to setup high damage spin attacks, which is reckless.
- Re-added the default orders, which is now named "Attack"
- Re-added "Do Not Attack" orders
- Changed "Stay" orders so the companion keeps within a 2 tile radius from their position.
- Added tomes, potions, and enchantment scrolls to the town shop.
- Changed tome descriptions to be easier to understand, e.g.
- "It has 2/4 charges (125/200 **)" -> "It has 2.5/4 charges and gains 0.02 charges / turn"
- "Charges the user's items by ** equal to 25% of damage dealt" -> "Charges the user's items as if x turns have passed, where x is 25% of damage dealt"
- Changed the price of tome of burgeoning from 72 -> 20
- Changed level generation logic so levels have a "border", e.g. levels 1-3 have a dirt wall border.
- Made minor aesthetic changes to wood floor and countertop sprites
- Made the page number in menus white to make it more noticeable
- Fixed a typo in one of Torne's conversations.
- Fixed "Vi-like controls": Before, Rest was registered to numpad 5. Now, it's registered to spacebar.
- Added $10+ patrons to the credits.
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AI feels pretty good now.
Floors 8-10 AI does not have spike detection so they will just walk through those tiles.
Very minor notes:
AI sometimes loses track of you when so far away. I'm unaware if this is due to walls or actual vision.
AI does not attack when it can one shot an enemy sometimes and backs off.
Companion does not save behaviors and resets on next party invite.
I also noticed the gameplay in general feels better and scrolls of enchantment added to main shop I think is nice since they were pretty inaccessable unless you ran into dungeon merchant or got lucky. One thing that isn't really a problem depending on how you want to balance but one key is worth 2 scrolls and potion rooms which cost a key to open have very low value in comparison to others.
Merchant in town sells +0 tomes which have 0 charges (may be intentional?) +0 having 1 charge then each + giving another seems more intuitive or the merchant selling +1s.
Floors 8-10 AI does not have spike detection so they will just walk through those tiles.
Very minor notes:
AI sometimes loses track of you when so far away. I'm unaware if this is due to walls or actual vision.
AI does not attack when it can one shot an enemy sometimes and backs off.
Companion does not save behaviors and resets on next party invite.
I also noticed the gameplay in general feels better and scrolls of enchantment added to main shop I think is nice since they were pretty inaccessable unless you ran into dungeon merchant or got lucky. One thing that isn't really a problem depending on how you want to balance but one key is worth 2 scrolls and potion rooms which cost a key to open have very low value in comparison to others.
Merchant in town sells +0 tomes which have 0 charges (may be intentional?) +0 having 1 charge then each + giving another seems more intuitive or the merchant selling +1s.
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Thanks for the detailed feedback, it's extremely valuable.
Thanks, will fix.
Thanks, will look into this. I think this is because the the pathfinder has a hardcoded max path length
Ah interesting yeah the AI doesn't consider that it can remove "danger tiles" by removing enemies, will think about this one
Thanks for finding this papercut
Thanks for noticing this, balance stuff is hard to detect. Scrolls of enchantment should cost more. And perhaps potion rooms should be unlocked
This is a mistake, the merchant should sell +1 tomes, thanks.
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I've been able to reproduce this changing any key input. From what I see something similar to companion behavior is happening and controls reset to the last selected control mode aside from custom changing the custom controls to the same keybinds every launch.
Edit: If last selected was Mystery before Custom, Mystery will be selected on relaunch and change custom keybinds
If VI was last selected before Custom, VI will be selected on relaunch and change custom keybinds, etc
It's also worth noting that keys can share a keybind currently
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