VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.6.2] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[Filipis]

I had a knee-jerk reaction to those moaning about her not being some chaste pure specimen, but indeed, with sexual experience often comes more awareness, an ability to read between the lines. However - the flashback wasn't the first time she acted like that; several times she's demonstrated greater sexual confidence, so if anything I think the "naive to the ways of the world" character is incongruent with the rest of her, not vice versa.

Nah, I don't need or want Kathryn to be "chaste" for the 'corruption' to be exciting, but the flashback (if you so choose - but then why give us the choice?) shows her being very sexually liberated already, so to speak. We didn't know much about Kathryn prior to her relationship with Luke, but isn't it safe to say that being reluctant to show a stranger your tits contradicts the fact that she willfully partook in a bukkake while on a first date with someone she harbored deep romantic feelings for?

Unless my impression of the game was gravely wrong, East Block is about a man letting his deepest fetishes affect his personal life with the woman he loves, a woman willing to go along with those fetishes out of love... not because she can recite the Kamasutra from memory...

 

[IND-3D]

Gallery mod pls

 

[slightchance]

I for one am overjoyed at seeing a more realistic depiction of an average american girl. One that perhaps had some wild phases, perhaps didn't, but breaks away from this 1-dimensional mold of the docile innocent girl. She has her own past, her own thoughts, many unrelated to sex. The 'established narrative' you speak of is your own, and certainly not written in the game's canon. In the first few chapters, we knew little of her past other than her basic family and her relationship with Luke.

You turn the argument on its head. Not everyone is denying her a past or fun she might have had with ex-boyfriends. The innocence people are talking about (at least I am) is referring to the status of their relationship. They're not in a open relationship at the beginning and they have not made their own sexual fantasies known. Not to their partner, not the observer playing the game.

They obviously didn't meet in an obscure internet forum to lay out their kinky cards before meeting up for the first time. IMO one shouldn't present the story as a corruption game when the only difference between her naughtiest self and the one we get to witness from the start is that she only didn't do it with the knowledge of the MC.

 

[TomUK]

Yes it seemed that Clem was tweaked with how she was portrayed before. Even having Mr Seville treat her a certain way to change things around. Same with Alex the prisoner. Now they are looking to have some redeeming factors. I know there were a handful of people who thought Alex was the only guy they didn't feel was a total creep. So now hes been written as a more sympathetic, sad figure, instead of the first scene where he manipulates her into letting him jerk off. Bit of a difference from initially being like, Show me your tits and I'm gona nut on your ass haha.

I don't think the first meeting with Alex went anything like what you was describing, Alex asked her to watch him jerk off and Kathryn had the choice of whether to watch or not. He didn't lie to her at all and nothing he said was manipulating really, he might have played the sympathy card a little, he tried his luck and depending or the players decision was whether he got lucky or not.

 

[Rastafoo]

Clear boundaries? Dude she is a fucking sex pest she constantly tries to get me to cheat on Kathryn.

Facts man Facts. I honestly like how it is where Kathryn is clearly best girl. I hope the dev keeps it like this because that's what makes her and the experience so likeable. If Kath becomes more like Clem, I'd be sad.

 

[Dessolos]

Yeah I hope we get go visit Alex and stuff happens or Alex decides to rat and cut a deal so he can get out early. He is really the only partner I like for Kathryn. Well also the thugs in the alley were fun too and weren't nearly as bad as Nate and Santi or whatever the bosses name is.

Clear boundaries? Dude she is a fucking sex pest she constantly tries to get me to cheat on Kathryn.

Yeah that's the only thing I dislike about Clem. Cause she seems like she might be a decent character / person but is either in abusive relationship or something , hard to really say until we learn more.

 

[Filipis]

They obviously didn't meet in an obscure internet forum to lay out their kinky cards before meeting up for the first time. IMO one shouldn't present the story as a corruption game when the only difference between her naughtiest self and the one we get to witness from the start is that she only didn't do it with the knowledge of the MC.

You hit the nail on the head with that.

Might as well show that Kathryn recorded an amateur porno before she met Luke if her past doesn't matter at all.

The point of this game is that Luke's fantasies are "corrupting" their relationship, a point ruined if Kathryn is a 'born-again virgin'.

This isn't slut shaming, this is retconning; a far worse sin.

 

[TomUK]

They obviously didn't meet in an obscure internet forum to lay out their kinky cards before meeting up for the first time. IMO one shouldn't present the story as a corruption game when the only difference between her naughtiest self and the one we get to witness from the start is that she only didn't do it with the knowledge of the MC.

This isn't a corruption game.

She admits to the roadie manager when asked about drugs that she used to smoke weed with her friends, that's the first time that Luke finds that out about her. Luke knew her and chatted with her for about a year I'm guessing before that first date, so I guess they never spoke about sex or anything like that, probably cause Luke didn't want to scare her off or something.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I don't see it that way, maybe you have got to have grown up in age where young girls would throw themselves at rock stars, they would do anything if it meant meeting their idols and most of them wanted to have sex with them or whoever held the keys to their dreams, and most of the rock stars would be out of their heads on drugs and fuck them and wouldn't give a shit how old they were, plenty of stories about 13 and 14 year old girls getting gang fucked. So to me a fangirl doing whatever her idol asked her is not out of the realms of possibility.

Agreed, the band Motley Crue admitted in a documentary that their roadies got as much pussy as they did

 

[Filipis]

This isn't a corruption game.

She admits to the roadie manager when asked about drugs that she used to smoke weed with her friends, that's the first time that Luke finds that out about her. Luke knew her and chatted with her for about a year I'm guessing before that first date, so I guess they never spoke about sex or anything like that, probably cause Luke didn't want to scare her off or something.

Here we go again with the "it's not a corruption game".

Then what is it? Because the events are sure as shit presented as if Kathryn is becoming more & more corrupted, evident by both her inner thoughts and her actions - just in this latest update, you can have Kat

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[TomUK]

Here we go again with the "it's not a corruption game".

Then what is it? Because the events are sure as shit presented as if Kathryn is becoming more & more corrupted, evident by both her inner thoughts and her actions - just in this latest update, you can have Kat

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But you was going on about the first meeting between Alex and Kathryn and as I far as I could see he tried his luck, he didn't manipulate her or anything and it was the players choice if she allowed it or not.
As to the corruption, there is no corruption tag and I'm fairly certain there won't be one either, corruption usually means the 'target' for that corruption doesn't have a choice in their actions, their actions are forced on them by the person corrupting them.

 

[Dessolos]

Here we go again with the "it's not a corruption game".

Then what is it? Because the events are sure as shit presented as if Kathryn is becoming more & more corrupted, evident by both her inner thoughts and her actions - just in this latest update, you can have Kat

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I think this is both a corruption game and not a corruption game at the same time. It really depends on how you shape and play your Kathryn beyond a few of the forced scenes. On one save i consider her being corrupted and getting more excitement doing things with other men with Luke's knowledge. While my other save she has no desire to do anything with anyone but Luke , she even mentioned how she wants to have a baby with Luke in this update on the save i'm not letting her be corrupted but on the other one she didn't. Yeah I know there are few scenes like the photoshoot and I think the interview that kind of go against this a little bit but even still I don't really count those for the one save.

 

[gregers]

This isn't a corruption game.

... a big part of the game, which is Kathryn slowly being corrupted.

But of course your definitions of the term may be different.

 

[Joshy92]

If people want "corruption" ntr than thats whatever but I'll stick to the wholesome open relationship I'm building with Kathryn and that certainty won't be corruption.

 

[Vash1980]

i think Kathryn was never a good girl she was smoking weed, even said she did other questionable things in college. i honestly think she calmed down in her relationship with Luke. But is now getting back to her old self because of Luke's actions, the only thing holding her back is that she thinks luke isn't open to her wild self, but she slowly realizes that he is.

but it's all just my opinion

 

[sagerock820]

I love how since she smoked weed, she is no longer a good girl. She may have only tried it once, it isn't stated.

 

[gregers]

I love how since she smoked weed, she is no longer a good girl. She may have only tried it once, it isn't stated.

It's a gateway drug corrupting The Youth. It leads innocent souls down the primrose path to hanging out in a basement playing Golden Axe, if memory serves.

It's pretty much weed -> Golden Axe -> teen pregnancies and fentanyl



(Kathryn smoking weed reveals less about her character than Luke's reaction does about his. That he'd be astounded that a girl in her late teens has Nibbled On The Devil's Salad suggests that he is (or at least used to be) a massive prude.)

 

[Dessolos]

I love how since she smoked weed, she is no longer a good girl. She may have only tried it once, it isn't stated.

yeah I find it funny how some think since she smoked weed she is no longer a good girl or innocent from that one little thing.

 

[Filipis]

But of course your definitions of the term may be different.

 

[SlapE]

Clear boundaries? Dude she is a fucking sex pest she constantly tries to get me to cheat on Kathryn.

Not to mention she's completely okay with doing her lover's bidding. She gets these women all drugged up, and is completely okay taking advantage of it by getting them to do her sexual favors. Clem's boundaries are irrelevant, her problem is respecting other people's boundaries. She is undeniably a shitty person, she's kinda redeemable unlike her lover and the MC's boss though.