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Dessolos

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Not true. If you had followed the development of the game from day one, then you would know that the focus of the game was always on Kendra's revenge, and therefore on cheating and NTR. So there is no need to say that extra. You just had to read.

I wonder why people always assume that games with NTR/cheating content have to have this content avoidable, whereas the vanilla part should be the focus. Here it is the other way around.

If you don't like it, don't play it.
I agree that content doesn't need to be avoidable. But when the choices reflect that it is and turns out it isn't that's when it becomes an issue for the non NTR only players. But yeah this game was always going to be NTR first you can tell easily. I play both paths so I have no issue with NTR but I do agree with the ones that do have an issue with the other path in the recent update assuming it isn't a bug like ive read once on this thread. As if you go by the decisions made while following a pure non NTR path it kind of comes out of no where and makes no sense.
 
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The amount of whining in this thread is ridiculous. It seems a lot of people want the game to be specifically catered to them. This is one of the reasons games get abandoned
I was just going to write something like this. It's sad that after a lot of positive comments, now it's just a handful of people complaining and wanting everything to be done to their specific tastes. I know a lot of the people saying they don't like this or that, but actually do like many things in the update.
Why don't you guys say the things you liked too?! It would be really helpful to the Dev to get both sides, instead of only your negative points.

I'll start lol.

The opening I loved the build up. Just a normal thing like breaking and replacing an iPad to set it up. She walks to the neighborhood and sees it's a bit filthy, the building looks old and abandoned and she enters with an ominous tone. Then the horror music plays with Albert appearing. It was fun, a little creepy and really well done. To me when a scene has a build up like that it makes it so much better. The slow way Albert lured her into his trap, too bad we couldn't watch the Seinfeld episode along with it lol. That was the best build up and storytelling for the whole game so far. Even if it only was a dream.

The prisoner scene I actually skipped the first playthrough, big mistake. Played it after and I thought it was the hottest tease of the update. Kat being naive and gullible, falling for the story of Alex's daughter not seeing him for ages and Kat would be the last woman he'll see for years. Another good setup to make her feel pity for him. She was a sexy tease in that very short time. Even handing out her 555 Movie phone number haha.

The commercials were so well written. I love the casual way she read the porn type scripts like it was a shampoo ad! It was so fun and hot. Even the facial expressions perfectly matched the tone. Usually with a massive grin on her face as she prepares to speak. Special mention to Nate, yelling out FUCK! If you choose Luke over him for the blowjob scene.

Anybody else catch that the sex products she was advertising were from the Love Zone (Clementine - The Neighbor's, Sex Shop) Is Santini involved with everyone? Seems to have the police wrapped around his finger too.

Poor Rebecca!
 

Dessolos

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Why don't you guys say the things you liked too?! It would be really helpful to the Dev to get both sides, instead of only your negative points.

I'll start lol.
I'll go second then

When it comes to this update. I like how my fear about the prison scene was unfounded instead I was pleasantly surprised by a hot scene. Tho I was kind of secretly hoping for a BJ through the bars haha.

When it comes to the photoshoot scenes, the outfit were hot some nice poses. Again I do like the communication between the two of them like in previous updates. Even if I have some issue with these scenes on the other path. The communication to me shows they have an actual relationship. It's my favorite part of the game and it's part of the reason I do look forward to more updates.

Then the choice of the BJ was amazing also how you gave us the option to watch or go in person and watch or participate. My god the render when she had cum in her mouth was one of the hottest renders ive seen in an AVN in a long time. I almost forgot I liked how we had a choice if we fuck our co-worker or not, as I did want to just to please our boss, as that was my worry at first till the choice came up.
 
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Not true. If you had followed the development of the game from day one, then you would know that the focus of the game was always on Kendra's revenge, and therefore on cheating and NTR. So there is no need to say that extra. You just had to read.
Who the hell is Kendra, and how is her revenge the focus, why does she even want revenge?

If I remember correctly, the dev himself said the NTR was avoidable, yet Kathy's actions on the non-NTR/non-sharing path are weird, why show your pussy, wear see-through clothing, and get naked and masturbate if she agreed that showing her bare breasts is too far?
 

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I feel like I'm being gaslit by the replies in this thread. Some of you are acting like the dev didn't say that the NTR was avoidable when the game was first uploaded here...

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Do you not see the highlighted text? "This Visual novel features NTR content that is completely avoidable based on your choices." This was removed sometime after December 19th, but anyone who saw it would of course think that the NTR would be avoidable. So why now are some of you saying that you shouldn't be surprised by the forced NTR?

The dev even admits that he messed up:

When the game was first released I stated that NTR is avoidable and I never should have done that.
I'm trying to make this game enjoyable for more than just ntr(or whatever you want to call it), corruption, sharing fans but I'm not doing a great job with that.
So why are you arguing with people that feel deceived?
 

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I agree that content doesn't need to be avoidable. But when the choices reflect that it is and turns out it isn't that's when it becomes an issue for the non NTR only players. But yeah this game was always going to be NTR first you can tell easily. I play both paths so I have no issue with NTR but I do agree with the ones that do have an issue with the other path in the recent update assuming it isn't a bug like ive read once on this thread. As if you go by the decisions made while following a pure non NTR path it kind of comes out of no where and makes no sense.

Thanks for the flowers. However, I made a mistake. My comment was not intended for this thread. There is no Kendra in this game. :eek:

But as far as this game is concerned: this game is also designed for cheating/NTR, apparently with a focus on cuckolding.

And here too nothing serious has happened so far. The dream scene can't even be viewed directly as content. Indeed this game is full of non-stop teasing. All the guys are trying to hit on the female MC. And she has her own fantasies. All well and good, that's inevitable, because that's the story plot. But the really serious actions, of which there aren't many yet, we choose whether they take place or not. It's only NTR/cheating when these actions actually take place, the teasing and the fantasies aren't there yet.

So no, the developer didn't broke his promise. You can and will be able to play the game without cheating/NTR. We decide whether that takes place or not. But it doesn't matter whether you guys play faithful or not. You had to live with all ingame guys attempts to get closer and the fantasies of our female MC. There really is no getting around them. But these alone is not NTR/cheating.
 
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Who the hell is Kendra, and how is her revenge the focus, why does she even want revenge?

If I remember correctly, the dev himself said the NTR was avoidable, yet Kathy's actions on the non-NTR/non-sharing path are weird, why show your pussy, wear see-through clothing, and get naked and masturbate if she agreed that showing her bare breasts is too far?
Don't worry that guys in the wrong thread. He took a wrong turn at A Perfect Marriage Boulevard and ended up at The East Block lol
 

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Who the hell is Kendra, and how is her revenge the focus, why does she even want revenge?

If I remember correctly, the dev himself said the NTR was avoidable, yet Kathy's actions on the non-NTR/non-sharing path are weird, why show your pussy, wear see-through clothing, and get naked and masturbate if she agreed that showing her bare breasts is too far?
I already said that. I realized I made a mistake. the comment was intended for another threat. I realized my mistake too late and couldn't stop it
 

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So when playing a non NTR path you wouldn't expect NTR
as far as I understand there is no NON NTR /vanilla/harem Path!!!!

I understand it like this this game will have 10-12 episodes dont know how many exactly and the game will be relative kinective at the start at later episdes there will be BRANCHES/viables but AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND

this branches will be more like luke enjoys it like for example hotwife/sharing path , maybe like luke dosent enjoys/trys to protect kath from the city but fails and kath get corrupted/ntr and maybe a mix of both were they experimenting but than they go to deep and luke wants to go back but kath is (too adictive) but this would all be (ntr) I guess

so there will be no path that goes harem or full vanilla experince :unsure::unsure:

so corruption, sharing , cheating netorare will be the main focus and different path I guess

but maybe I am wrong
 

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funny how in this games citys are place of corruption, debauchery and full of manipulative pervert people (mostly men)
 

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That's a very specific desire to only exclude one character. MC and kathryn are constantly toying with the idea of exploring this path. I think it's just easying you into it because there's really no need to ask more than once if you prefer NTR or not.
It is a very simple desire, I want MC's girlfriend to be loyal, other women in the game are not in a relationship with MC so I don't care about who they fuck. The reason to ask more than once is not to ease you into it, it is to offer options. In which other game does that make sense? Imagine a harem game in which you get multiple opportunities and are asked if you want to add a specific girl to your harem, but you don't want to because you find that particular girl unattractive, then eventually she gets added to your harem anyway, and you say that all the previous choices were to ease you into the idea of adding said girl to your harem.

I was just going to write something like this. It's sad that after a lot of positive comments, now it's just a handful of people complaining and wanting everything to be done to their specific tastes.
I just want the game to not bamboozle me. If the game was an NTR kinetic novel from the start I would shut my mouth and have no problems with it whatsoever. Hell, even if the dev went back and retroactively deleted all the choices to avoid NTR right now I would drop all my complaints, but the choices to avoid NTR are still in the game, so it makes no sense. Because then it would be like: ''Guys, I decided that my vision is that I want this game to be full on NTR so I am removing all the non-NTR options from the game'' and that would be fair, the dev can do whatever the hell the dev wants to do, it is their game, all the power to them, but then do it, be transparent and have consistency.

I don't care if devs make NTR games or non-NTR games, I am always on a crusade to keep devs accountable for the choices in their games being meaningful and consistent if they choose to include choices. It is one of my personal biggest pet peeves with games in general, when devs make choices just to have choices, while making said choices bad, unimpactful and inconsistent. If you are unable to make good choices in your game make it a kinetic novel instead and tell the story you want to tell, but if you decide to include choices, then deliver on he quality of said choices. Kinetic novel without any choices is much better than a game that offers choices that end up bamboozling the player if they make certain choices.
 
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TomUK

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I think some people here forget she is an exhibitionist, the more she exposes herself to others the more she gets off on it, her kink is exhibitionism, his kink is 'hot wife'.

The kiss in the park was more Nate taking advantage than her willingly kissing him properly, she liked it because it wasn't totally 'non-consensual' and she's a bit too trusting and a sucker for a hard luck story. The only fault here is her naivety.

Again the web meeting, she's been threaten about losing her job, so she's been put under pressure from her boss to get results, Luke tells her to do what she feels she needs to do even if that means using her 'charms', she decides to show a bit of skin, unfortunately her top opens right up and she ends up flashing her bra to the guys, she tries to fix her top but can't, her exhibitionism kicks in again and she can see the guys are enjoying the 'show' and she uses it to her advantage to get them to sign contracts and to seal the deal she takes her top off completely because 1, they sign and 2, she's getting off on it.

The photoshoot, like she says, wearing lingerie is just like wearing a bikini at the beach, some of those leaving little to the imagination, when she gets to the crotchless lingerie, Luke isn't sure but again her exhibitionism kicks in under the guise that she doesn't want to let the team down, she's getting off on it and at this time it's just guys looking at her body which excites her. The same with the see-through lingerie, she's actually the same as the flasher guy, they both get off on showing off their personal bits to 'relative strangers'. Even when she's doing the 'ad' and getting fully naked and touching herself, she's getting off on her exhibitionism, doing stuff in front of 'relative strangers', the same as the flasher dude, even when it comes to the blowjob, you can opt out, on my 2 runs for some reason I couldn't select that option, but there is still the exhibitionism of her doing something sexual in front of relative strangers by sucking Luke's cock.

In all those scenarios she is following her fetish, not Luke's, even if Luke gets off on seeing his wife doing this stuff in front of strangers, for it to be even more in to Luke's fetish she would suck Nate's cock instead, which she also gets off on sucking another guy's cock in front of her husband knowing that is enjoying watching her.
 

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TomUK Luke only has a hotwife fetish if you make those choices at the start of the game, and her exhibitionism kink somehow gets stronger even when opting out of it whenever you can, she loves to expose herself to Luke, not being fully comfortable doing it for others, which is why if on the path where you keep it as vanilla as possible, the photoshoot should've gone very differently.
 

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Bobby already said he is looking into the photoshoot and other scenes.
Whether they change or not who knows but he did mention it.
 

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TomUK Luke only has a hotwife fetish if you make those choices at the start of the game, and her exhibitionism kink somehow gets stronger even when opting out of it whenever you can, she loves to expose herself to Luke, not being fully comfortable doing it for others, which is why if on the path where you keep it as vanilla as possible, the photoshoot should've gone very differently.
Luke has a hotwife fetish, whether you make those choices or not and he is the only proper protagonist, that's why you can only make choices for him, you can't really make choices for her, but whether Luke fully goes with his fetish or not, he still gets off on watching his wife do things in front of others.

I think the only reason she even asks Luke about situations is to make her own decisions legitimate, she knows he has this fetish, so she gets off on her exhibitionism and she knows he'll get off on his hotwife fetish.
 

TomUK

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Bobby already said he is looking into the photoshoot and other scenes.
Whether they change or not who knows but he did mention it.
I think the only thing that needs looking in to really is the blowjob, that opt out option needs to work, all the rest follows their fetishes. She likes showing off her body - Exhibitionism - and he likes to watch his wife show off her body to other men - hot wife / ntr-.
 
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Joshy92

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I think the only thing that needs looking in to really is the blowjob, that opt out option needs to work, all the rest follows their fetishes. She likes showing off her body - Exhibitionism - and he likes to watch his wife show off her body to other men - hot wife / ntr-.
Yeah, I agree with you mate.
I was just mentioning it in case people didn't see bobby's message.
 

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Luke has a hotwife fetish, whether you make those choices or not and he is the only proper protagonist, that's why you can only make choices for him, you can't really make choices for her, but whether Luke fully goes with his fetish or not, he still gets off on watching his wife do things in front of others.

I think the only reason she even asks Luke about situations is to make her own decisions legitimate, she knows he has this fetish, so she gets off on her exhibitionism and she knows he'll get off on his hotwife fetish.
Really not sure where you're seeing half of this...like we play a different VN. She also gets plenty of choices of her own...the decisions are not Lukes alone. So you're wrong there for a start. They are also not married either btw...so wrong there.

Photo shoot greyed out? I wonder why...

Honestly, if going to write long posts trying to be serious, at least get the basic simple facts right or it makes the rest of what you say (whether accurate or not) rather meaningless. It's like people who make long-winded posts about something, professing their love and can't even get the characters name right (not you btw)..like..why should I take anything you say seriously?
 

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Really not sure where you're seeing half of this...like we play a different VN. She also gets plenty of choices of her own...the decisions are not Lukes alone. So you're wrong there for a start. They are also not married either btw...so wrong there.

Photo shoot greyed out? I wonder why...

Honestly, if going to write long posts trying to be serious, at least get the basic simple facts right or it makes the rest of what you say (whether accurate or not) rather meaningless. It's like people who make long-winded posts about something, professing their love and can't even get the characters name right (not you btw)..like..why should I take anything you say seriously?
Oh I must have missed the bit in the genre's where it says FEMALE PROTAGONIST, oh that's right, I didn't miss it because it isn't there. And taking 'quotes' out of context is also a bit misleading, maybe you should actually highlight the actual 'quotes' you're referring to.
 

Maviarab

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Oh I must have missed the bit in the genre's where it says FEMALE PROTAGONIST, oh that's right, I didn't miss it because it isn't there. And taking 'quotes' out of context is also a bit misleading, maybe you should actually highlight the actual 'quotes' you're referring to.
You only need to go back three of your posts...now you can't even remember what you have written two hours ago?

Yes, the multi-protag tag is missing.
 
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