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NakedSingularity

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I just stated that a brother/sister incest game will probably not do well if the sister is in the sex industry.
Geez, just the thought makes we wanna pack my tent and run for the hills. NTR is bad enough, but seems like there will be an over-abundance of it (like every other scene) if the MC's sis/LI is also a hooker. Me and my real life sis are married and if that was the case with her I'd be looking at multiple murder charges with a trail of dead John's behind her (and she'd probably be in the same situation if I was unbelievably foolish and took a mistress or 2).
 

MissFortune

I Was Once, Possibly, Maybe, Perhaps… A Harem King
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How do you develop an opinion about a game without thinking about it? So, you're saying that the developer does not want players' opinions about the content of his game. When did he tell you that?
Come on, now you're just being willfully ignorant. He wants feedback on the GAME. The story. The renders. The mechanics and choices. Not the fetishes. Not people's feelings on fetishes. Use your head, man. Why would he ask for feedback on a stranger's opinions of fetishes?

You can also have thoughts on a game while putting your dislike of fetishes aside, judging it purely based off of render quality, writing, immersion, etc.

Edit: lol. Looks like I triggered some people.

Edit Edit: BRING ON THE FACEPALMS. MWAHAHAHA!
 
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ptahn

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And he still stuck to his vision, despite people like you brigading him. Good for him. The sister is still a prostitute despite you trying to hand wave it away. And the mother can be a porn star (despite "a lot of grief" from people like you). He is also doing well financially. Wasn't that what you asked for?

Let's stop this here. It is off topic. "The Escort" is what it is and you can accept it or get angry about it here, it really doesn't matter.
Can be a porn star, it's the player's choice. I believe he learned his lesson by not making it avoidable that Rachel worked at the Red Maiden. I'm sure that no one will have an issue in this game if MC turns out to be her first client, and then he gets her out of the business. I wouldn't call it a hand wave.

I'm not angry about anything. There are hundreds of games here, enough for everyone's tastes. I'm just enjoying the debate on how specific content influences the financial viability of these games.
 

wytekki

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You see tags you do not like why click on the game just to rant that is the ultimate trolling. Many of the comments had nothing to do with no sex.

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I mean as i previously posted, the title of "The Escort" really brings with itself a certain set of expectations, and as i posted on the first page about the "Non-sexual content" currently that i was missing something, it was by no means to disparage or to "troll" the game so far, i myself was intrigued by the title and just found it so obfuscated of a pairing.
 
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ptahn

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Come on, now you're just being willfully ignorant. He wants feedback on the GAME. The story. The renders. The mechanics and choices. Not the fetishes. Not people's feelings on fetishes. Use your head, man. Why would he ask for feedback on a stranger's opinions of fetishes?

You can also have thoughts on a game while putting your dislike of fetishes aside, judging it purely based off of render quality, writing, immersion, etc.
So, you know that he has no interest in what people think about his content choices. Funny, it has been my experience that when developers want feedback, they do not exclude opinions about specific content. Again, when did he tell you this? Next time you talk to him, you might suggest that he make it clear what "thoughts" he is looking for.
 

DeUglyOne

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Putting aside the brouhaha over content, I couldn't get past the first screen shot due to it having so many scaling errors.

The woman looks like a dwarf in that shot. If she sat on the toilet her feet would be off the floor. Her tits are about as high as the sink and I doubt she'd be able to reach the faucet to use it.

The tub is even worse. It's so small that the faucet that feeds it looks like a fire hose in comparison. It looks like it might be big enough to wash a small dog in.

The shower head is also much too low on the wall. If she could reach the handles, the 4 ft. tall woman could use it, but a normal sized person would be using it for a bidet as it would be just above waist high.
 

MissFortune

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So, you know that he has no interest in what people think about his content choices. Funny, it has been my experience that when developers want feedback, they do not exclude opinions about specific content. Again, when did he tell you this? Next time you talk to him, you might suggest that he make it clear what "thoughts" he is looking for.
You're getting your words mixed up here. Content and fetishes are two different things. You can criticize content, but criticizing something based entirely off a fetish you don't like is stupid and entirely demeans all the work a dev puts into everything beyond the sexual content. When a dev includes a fetish, it's usually because they enjoy it. Not because others do or don't.

But all right, whatever. Enjoy being the contrarian. You know exactly what I'm talking about, so if you choose to play ignorant and keep shifting goalposts, then be my guest. Don't really care.
 

3DReaver

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Geez, just the thought makes we wanna pack my tent and run for the hills. NTR is bad enough, but seems like there will be an over-abundance of it (like every other scene) if the MC's sis/LI is also a hooker. Me and my real life sis are married and if that was the case with her I'd be looking at multiple murder charges with a trail of dead John's behind her (and she'd probably be in the same situation if I was unbelievably foolish and took a mistress or 2).
wait what ?! you are married to your sister ?
 

dolfe67

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Tags : prostitution, no sexual content :WaitWhat:

The "no sexual content" should be reserved for games that will never have it, not for first releases. Which case is this game in?
 
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hkennereth

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I will never understand some people on this site. Dev comes and say "here is my game, I made Flight Simulator" and asks for feedback, and the replies they get are "I don't like it, it doesn't have any demons or swords I can slay demons with. Please add demons and swords, and remove all the airplanes, I don't play games with airplanes on them. God forbid if any other males ever get on the same plane as my character".

And then when called out, these people have the balls to say "well, the dev asked for feedback", thinking they are giving constructive criticism.

/facepalm
 

ptahn

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You're getting your words mixed up here. Content and fetishes are two different things. You can criticize content, but criticizing something based entirely off a fetish you don't like is stupid and entirely demeans all the work a dev puts into everything beyond the sexual content. When a dev includes a fetish, it's usually because they enjoy it. Not because others do or don't.

But all right, whatever. Enjoy being the contrarian. You know exactly what I'm talking about, so if you choose to play ignorant and keep shifting goalposts, then be my guest. Don't really care.
We just have different definitions of content. When a developer decides if he/she is going to have incest, harem, prostitution, NTR, etc. in the game; I consider that content choices. Personally, I believe that "content" has a bigger impact on a game's popularity than the quality of the story. Many players will avoid a game with a five star rating if it has a tag that they don't like.
 

ptahn

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I will never understand some people on this site. Dev comes and say "here is my game, I made Flight Simulator" and asks for feedback, and the replies they get are "I don't like it, it doesn't have any demons or swords I can slay demons with. Please add demons and swords, and remove all the airplanes, I don't play games with airplanes on them. God forbid if any other males ever get on the same plane as my character".

And then when called out, these people have the balls to say "well, the dev asked for feedback", thinking they are giving constructive criticism.

/facepalm
No, it would be like players complaining about the type of plane.
 

hkennereth

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No, it would be like players complaining about the type of plane.
Complaining that one does not want a relationship between the MC and a escort... in a game called THE ESCORT... that's not a matter of some content in the game, it's complaining about the core concept of the game. If you or others don't want to play a game about escorts, why would you even click on the link to open the page of a game with this name? This isn't an issue with the game, it's entirely on you.

I don't like furries, so I don't play or even bother checking games about furries. Even taking the time to argue and criticize a game for the core idea within it is baffling and pointless.
 

Abhai

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Putting aside the brouhaha over content, I couldn't get past the first screen shot due to it having so many scaling errors.

The woman looks like a dwarf in that shot. If she sat on the toilet her feet would be off the floor. Her tits are about as high as the sink and I doubt she'd be able to reach the faucet to use it.

The tub is even worse. It's so small that the faucet that feeds it looks like a fire hose in comparison. It looks like it might be big enough to wash a small dog in.

The shower head is also much too low on the wall. If she could reach the handles, the 4 ft. tall woman could use it, but a normal sized person would be using it for a bidet as it would be just above waist high.
yeah, good catch...you have to be somewhat linked with toilets-job or so, arent ya:unsure:
also as you obviously have high standards and know what are you speaking/expecting of, wth, is that game of yours?
cant wait to check it, it has to be epic, one of the best in every regard, ever!

btw, good job dev, for the start/demo.
it isnt something toilet-refreshing for sure, yet it is interesting enough.
im looking forward to see how it develops further.
good luck(y)

p.s.
my only complain would be - wtf that "0.4"version for the demo come out?:BootyTime:
though im sure you have an explanation - perhaps only two updates more till the end of this short game or so:unsure:
 

Munchking

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Complaining that one does not want a relationship between the MC and a escort... in a game called THE ESCORT
Friend, we are on a forum where a game will have NTR blazing proudly in the title, You Only NTR Twice, The Spy Who NTR'd Me, License to NTR...

And then invariably one of the first questions will be "Is there NTR in this game." Not, "Is the NTR Avoidable", not "What Kind of NTR", just asking if it exists in the game. Wut.
 

drfronkonstinmd

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Thanks for all the replies!

Wow! Let me address the two elephants in the room…

It’s a short game with a bit of a slow burn, that’s why it doesn’t have sexual content (yet). I’m a single developer with a rather modest graphics card and renders take a lot of time. The sexual content is definitely coming very soon, but I thought this version was an interesting intro to the whole story and I didn’t want to push it back any further. I honestly think you won’t be disappointed.

I tried to be as accurate as possible with the version. I know it’s a short story, but it can be expanded into more episodes if people like the concept. If you think about it as “Episode I”, there’s still 60% of story left to add till Episode II.

About the Escort part, yes. That’s what she does or what she’s been doing for a while, but the game doesn’t have nor will it ever have any kind of NTR or sharing content. Her side job is just an excuse for the game to start and for a couple of things to happen. She’s not a prostitute. I chose that tag because it was the closest concept. I have to say she does have previous sexual experience. I didn’t know that absolute purity was a requirement for some people, but I find it very hard to believe that someone with that body and that face has never had sex. When I play these games, what really matters to me is what happens from the moment it starts.

I knew those two points could be controversial, but I still think it’s an interesting story worth playing. Hopefully you’ll be the judge for that.

And again, if you don’t like it, I want to know it too! I can’t expect to please everyone, but all comments are important.

On a side note: The room. Yes. It’s totally out of scale, but that’s how it comes from the store. I realised when I had half the game ready and I placed her next to the toilet. It’s ridiculous, but having to do all the renders again was just too much. There’s even a mention to the weird scale in one of the endings.

Thanks again for everything. I promise the next version will be ready soon.
 

drfronkonstinmd

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good luck with your project and thanks for sharing it with us :)


... edit: I tried the game - first of all -> YES there is actual no sexual content (but nudity^^) ... but only because it´s more a "demo" than a game and I´m sure if the dev continues this game there will be sexual content ;)
second ... it´s the MC´s sister who is the escort -> escort are different from prostitutes - escorts get not paid for sex instead they get paid for company - soooo theoretical the sister is "pure" (as far as I could tell from the dialogues) - so stop panicking ;)
third ... all in all the story is most likely compared to one of those JAV genre where the Escort ("Surprise!") is someone who the MC knows. And the story can lead to something you choose (as the MC)
fourth .... the renders are good and above standard with very good facial expressions, the female model unique and quite a cute bombshell and the game (if further developed) promises to be interesting & entertaining

7/10 from my side
Keep up your project drfronkonstinmd - I´m in ;)

....edit2: Just as a sidenote -> plz consider to convert the images to JGP/WEBP image format - with lossless settings (100%) there is almost no difference in quality for 95% of the players but a huge difference in file size and up-/download time ^^
Thank you so much for taking the time to write that review! I’m glad you like it so far. I can’t add much more because you pretty much nailed my intentions with this first release.

Thanks again and stay tuned. I’ll try my best to have the next version ready very soon.
 

Chimba

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Ok, so another virgin loser mc :unsure: ? (man the disappointment,I thought the mc was going to be the escort :KEK: :KEK:) the demo is quite short but interesting. (knowing that the sister is a VIP prostitute,It made me lose some interest in her, but I guess it's going to be the only LI if it's a short game,it is what it is,although the model looks very good.)
Edit:By the way, it was rare that they did not know who they were going to meet, usually one has access to photos of the girls when selecting or contacting one,just sying.(well, at least in my country I don't think it's different in others :unsure: :KEK:)

One question, I'm not from the USA, I don't know if the dev is, but in my country,the kids (son/daughter) generally don't have access to savings accounts... is it normal for them to have access there?

Leaving that aside the bathroom scene, as someone said it needs a readjustment in the proportions
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Anyways good luck Dev.
 
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