I have a question: what did Eloise do in the past to make the MC so mad?
Also, am I the only one who finds resemblance to Myne of Shield Hero?
Also, am I the only one who finds resemblance to Myne of Shield Hero?
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She sent plague to city and almost kill population, particulary including little daughter (Naesala helps). among other more general thing like hanging out with demons which trying to eradicate humatiny
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the main grievance was that she tried to force Karla (his 1st wife) into marriage with her husbands family.
aside from that she just a straight up bitch like myne yeah
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true but this is all mentioned a lot in converstations pretty sure he already understood that.
the things i mentioned are said less but yeah just playing this avn should give anyone a clear understanding off why the MC would hate her.(unless your morale compass is screwed
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The disease SHE unleashed (and to which did her best to steal all the cure from the town) nearly killed his daughter? That'd be enough for me right there. And in MC's world under the demons' curse, it's a much more serious crime.true but this is all mentioned a lot in converstations pretty sure he already understood that.
the things i mentioned are said less but yeah just playing this avn should give anyone a clear understanding off why the MC would hate her.(unless your morale compass is screwed
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I did miss this part, thanks, all the rest (the Queen's manipulation, the plague etc) I know, but I missed that bit.
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its the initial grievance he has against her, its a bit off back and forth because karla's father also wanted the marriage eliose tried to force, Eliose tried use her position as head of the college of mage's to force karla but Athagan put a stop to that.
but yeah she's a power hungry women and seems to be willing to do anything to get just a bit more power.
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But, consider how little game time passed in last few updates, or even since the beginning. When I downloaded part one (roughly halfway through) some weeks or maybe even a month or more passed in-game (I don't recall/think it's even been two months of game time in the few years the game has been made). Recent updates have had much more happen, sometimes without a day even passing. If some months happened of game time with what you described happening (mainly getting new maids and not more major characters) I might start to agree, but that simply may not have even happened.
For example, since early on in part two (maybe part three next update) Cintia's story has been progressing with her planning to have a boxing match then presumably another date with the character, but for the last several updates, so much happened in those in one or just a few days, that they haven't even gotten to the boxing match yet, but I'd guess is coming very soon, maybe next update... and this is in relatively short amount of game time.
So, I disagree with your analysis. I don't think it ever happens that a game week goes by without the main character having sex with multiple lady major characters, but I don't recall/think even a week passed for several updates. That's not bad, because there was more story to be had before leaving, then the journey, with plot during that, then the continued demon war at the capitol. All this makes for a more interesting story (I don't think it needs multiple sex scenes in every update, because fighting action is good too).
Game time tends to pass more slowly than real time, because of the amount of work it takes to do writing and three-dimensional (3D) rendering; please consider that also. Maybe some people would say it's too much detail (in part one sometimes showing several meals in a day, with important discussions though) but sometimes there's just more events or other action... if entire 16-hour days of activity time happened, one might be wanting it shorter, but I think several updates in which only a few/many hours or one day passes isn't too excessive depending on events.
Yes, as I hope I described above.
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I would've loved a scene where Mirielle's father was forced to see his daughter taken by the MC right in front of him LOL
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for someone who has "No to NTR" in his signature you sure say NTR like things
I hate NetorarE (girls taken FROM the MC), not NetorI (MC takes other guys girls). As long as the MC doesn't get NTR'd, I am fine with everything (and that asshole deserves it).
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aahh yes the good old : its only bad when someone else does it...not when i do it ,classic
well the MC isn't written like that hes a principled man aka he holds himself to same standerds he imposes on others
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I don't really get what people are complaining about the MC's looks. He's not a twink but is certainly not a troglodyte and I'd rather have a more manly looking MC than one that looks like a woman, just like I'd rather have LI's that look like women instead of men (unlike some games I could mention).
The amount of side LI's has exploded for sure but I trust that we'll get back to smaller circles soon and that focusing more on the main LI's will come.
I'm just glad that since it's a plot that will take a while to complete Vanderer is more a Brandon Sanderson and less George R.R. Martin or Patric Rothfuss.
The amount of side LI's has exploded for sure but I trust that we'll get back to smaller circles soon and that focusing more on the main LI's will come.
I'm just glad that since it's a plot that will take a while to complete Vanderer is more a Brandon Sanderson and less George R.R. Martin or Patric Rothfuss.
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Yep. Its like saying maledom and femdom is the same. One us about humiliating, one about getting humiluated. Unless you dont do self insertion (Which describes a writing technique, not a reading technique btw.).
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sure but its the same thing in general the main difference is perspective.
do i want some other dude to claim my women ?? no
do i want to claim some other man's women??? NO! because i'd be a hypocrite if i'd say that's okay
also any women who leaves her man for a other one (just because hes better ) is disloyal and would most likely do it to you when the next seemingly better man came around.
netorare vs netori are two different perspective's off the same concept : a Man "stealing" a other mans women. so 2 branches off the same tree.
you might like the view from 1 branch and hate it from an other doesn't mean it isn't the same tree.
still the same thing even with self insert ,again different branches off the same tree.
only difference is for me is that i'm personally ok with this , not with NTR
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not different from... domination and submission for example.
some people like one of them, a some other both, and some other neither.
because a kink involve feeling the perspective is everything in the case.
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yeah its up to the person and that's fine i respect a opinion,but i wont these 2 gaslight me into : "these are completely different things" when the only difference is "do you personally like it or not" and "is it happening to me = bad vs is it happening to someone else = good"
Even if they are different branches of the kink tree, they still are different kinks. It's different thing in each that makes people who like those kinks tick, and yes as you say that the difference is who is doing what, but that makes huge difference in the kink. Also there's some things that are more common in one and not in the other. For example in most netorare stories i've seen on the site, the "bad guy" is almost always actually a bad guy and corrupts innocent person or person that was actually in love with the MC. And in most cases of netori, the LIs are quite often in loveless or otherwise bad relationship and MC end up helping them along the way, like realise that they are unhappy with their relationship and not being valued as a partner. Would you say that it's a bad thing help someone who feels like they aren't loved or taken for granted to find new love and being appreciated? Personally i'd say it's not always so black and white in human relationships as you make it seem.
Now it's completely within your rights to dislike them and have your opinion of the kink, but do understand that to those that are actually into these kinks, the difference is like between human and chimpanzee if they are two branches of the same tree.
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Don't think the women are throwing themselves at the MC because of his face.