Mommysbuttslut

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A better explanation is the option to play full lesbian exists, but it's not fully realized.

You can easily avoid being attacked by having a good confidence and fitness score. You can get a good fitness score well within the first three day if you have the gym bunny background. Confidence will take care of itself.
You never have to work at the pub if you don't want to. Working at the junkyard is more profitable anyways, which is exactly where the only current "lesbian" interest can be found.
Boy start usually doesn't get beginner traits by day 3. Besides that I've had my Sammy once get dragged into an alley the very first time she left her apartment building. I then save scummed and it happened again. Not getting raped before you get the chance to build her stats up enough to defend herself is really a matter of luck.
 

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Boy start usually doesn't get beginner traits by day 3. Besides that I've had my Sammy once get dragged into an alley the very first time she left her apartment building. I then save scummed and it happened again. Not getting raped before you get the chance to build her stats up enough to defend herself is really a matter of luck.
Well, since the original question was "lesbian route" I'd expect the person would be more interested in a female start over a male start. Even if they did do a male start, the male origin gets a fitness gain multiplier of 2, while gym bunny gets only 1.5. I just did a test run and was at fitness level 30 by Monday, meaning Sammy should have a good chance of fighting against attackers.

I've never had Sammy attacked on the very first day. The earliest I've ever had Sammy assaulted was the first Monday. I was testing the Bambi origin and some guy just shoved his dick into her on the bus. It's happened only once.
While it is a matter of luck, you must have awful luck. Praise be, the RNG gods.
 

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Well, since the original question was "lesbian route" I'd expect the person would be more interested in a female start over a male start. Even if they did do a male start, the male origin gets a fitness gain multiplier of 2, while gym bunny gets only 1.5. I just did a test run and was at fitness level 30 by Monday, meaning Sammy should have a good chance of fighting against attackers.

I've never had Sammy attacked on the very first day. The earliest I've ever had Sammy assaulted was the first Monday. I was testing the Bambi origin and some guy just shoved his dick into her on the bus. It's happened only once.
While it is a matter of luck, you must have awful luck. Praise be, the RNG gods.
Depends on why Sammy's a lesbian. When I'm playing man start I plan on playing either a lesbian or reluctant Sammy, which I think is reflected in her base identity being a (presumably) straight man needing to break down her previous gender identity before she opens up sexually. I know well enough that if I got my brain transplanted into a woman's body I wouldn't become attracted to men so that's how I play man Sammy, with a slow burn on straight content.
I've played many many many playthroughs. I quit and start again probably about 5-10 times per major update. I've seen it happen a few times where she's assaulted on the first full day, although the twice on the first building exit was definitely a first for me.
 
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Besides that I've had my Sammy once get dragged into an alley the very first time she left her apartment building. I then save scummed and it happened again.
Sounds like a bug. The odds for being attacked are extremely low for a high allure Sammy walking around at night and nonexistent for a low allure Sammy walking around during the day.
 
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Depends on why Sammy's a lesbian. When I'm playing man start I plan on playing either a lesbian or reluctant Sammy, which I think is reflected in her base identity being a (presumably) straight man needing to break down her previous gender identity before she opens up sexually. I know well enough that if I got my brain transplanted into a woman's body I wouldn't become attracted to men so that's how I play man Sammy, with a slow burn on straight content.
Ultimately, this is completely irrelevant to the OP.

I've played many many many playthroughs. I quit and start again probably about 5-10 times per major update. I've seen it happen a few times where she's assaulted on the first full day, although the twice on the first building exit was definitely a first for me.
You definitely have bad luck. In my experience with the game, Sammy has never been assaulted that early that frequently.
 

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It should be noted that "save-scumming", due to seeding (deterministic pseudo-random outcomes), is only effective if you make a change in how things occur. For example, if you save right before walking out the door of your apartment and get attacked, reload to the save you just made, and then immediately walk out the door...well, you'll be attacked again, and it will just keep happening no matter how many times you reload. You have a seed that deterministically decides what will happen based off of what has already happened before, so if what has already happened stays the same, the outcome of your next move will as well. But if you can change what's happened before (by, for example, walking into your room and back out again, or scavenging, or talking to one of your roommates, or a number of other possible choices) before you decide to ultimately walk outside, then the outcome can change as well. Though it is possible you might still hit that 1/1000 chance to get immediately assaulted, chances are very high that it won't happen again.

In some games, the outcome of 'RNG' can change by a simple change in the timing of your decision. For example, if you play on an N64 emulator and make a save-state right before opening a treasure chest whose contents are random and can be completely different each time you open it, you'll see that if you keep reloading your save state and open the treasure chest on the same frame over and over, that treasure chest will always give you the exact same items...but waiting an additional 5 frames before you open it will cause totally different items to be in the treasure chest; if you reload to the original save-state and wait 5 frames once more, what appeared after waiting 5 frames last time will appear exactly again as well. But time is not always a factor for all games and outcomes, and it isn't for games like The Fixer or Degrees of Lewdity where time doesn't move until you decide to actually do something: you have to decide to do something different for an outcome to change.
 
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It should be noted that "save-scumming", due to seeding (deterministic pseudo-random outcomes), is only effective if you make a change in the order of events. For example, if you save right before walking out the door of your apartment and get attacked, reload to the save you just made, and then immediately walk out the door...well, you'll be attacked again, and it will just keep happening no matter how many times you reload. You have a seed that deterministically decides what will happen based off of what has already happened before, so if what has already happened stays the same, the outcome of your next move will as well. But if you can change what's happened before (by, for example, walking into your room and back out again, or scavenging, or talking to one of your roommates, or a number of other choices) before you decide to walk outside, then the outcome can change as well. Though it is possible you might still hit that 1/1000 chance to get immediately assaulted, chances are that it won't happen.
The random function of renpy used by sam generate the seed at calling, saving before the call is made and reloading gives you different outcomes. I save scum quite a bit during some scene (like the bus).
 
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Amhran

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The random function of renpy used by sam generate the seed at calling, saving before the call is made and reloading gives you different outcomes. I save scum quite a bit during some scene (like the bus).
Oh, damn...or I guess, neat? Well, "damn" that I wrote all that up and it was wrong, or rather basically not wrong except for the fact that The Fixer changes the seed every time you reload which mostly defeats the issue of seeding I was trying to explain. I suppose it still helps explain why whenever you hit "back" in the game history and try to re-do something, the outcome doesn't change unless you do something different - I guess you'd just need to reload first!
 

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So is this game going to get a NTR tag with 90% of the updates being the other girls being fucked or are women not real humans so it doesnt count if they get cucked?
 

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So is this game going to get a NTR tag with 90% of the updates being the other girls being fucked or are women not real humans so it doesnt count if they get cucked?
But nobody in this game is in an actual relationship. They are all just fuck buddies at best.
 
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ryushrio

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What kind of save are you expecting exactly? There's no gallery, and there's no clear state. Either play the game as it is, or don't.
I think that they meant a save like before the new content or just any save file version if you didn't want to help or give a save file then you didn't need to say anything
 

Amhran

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I think that they meant a save like before the new content or just any save file version if you didn't want to help or give a save file then you didn't need to say anything
Nah, the save-beggars can put a tiny bit of thought and effort into their requests so that people at least have an idea of what they're begging for. It's just noise otherwise, and I think it's great when they're just flat-out ignored.
 

ryushrio

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Nah, these save-beggars can put a tiny bit of thought and effort into their requests so that people at least have an idea of what they're begging for. It's just noise otherwise.
and i understand that but when people ask for a save it usually means your current save file that's what they meant i just dont like when someone says play the game or don't they asked for a save file because of a few different reasons
1 they could of lost theirs
2 they could be stuck and after trying for a while they just decided to ask to save a headache
3 maybe they just wanted to play the updated content
etc etc
 
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heyas! so, i'm trying to remove some perks via console, but i keep getting this error:

file "<string>", line 1: expected statement.
player.remove_perk (perk_baby crazy)
itwontlemmeputspaces)^

what am i doing wrong?

okay, update: I had the wrong keyword, found the right one, but now it gives me this:
dammit.png
 
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Wlms

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Hi, for some unknown reason the game doesn't launch on the last update. Tried both .exe files and none works
 
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