JoJoPool

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reviews saying updates can break stuff...
Yes that is indeed the case, It happened to me twice now where my saves from a previous version caused me issues and I had to resort to cheats to force start new quests
Is this still worth playing or is it just pure RNG? Sounds annoying.
That's up to you, RNG is a big part of this game, a lot of events, items and even vendors you can find are related to chance
I'm super interested in the wardrobe! Does it affect anything?
Yes, the clothes you wear affect how the world reacts to you, obviously the sluttier you look the more attention you'll draw
 
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There is an error :

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/scripts/locations/haven/events/endings/haven_ending_wrapup.rpy", line 569, in script
    $ haven_complete_questlog()
  File "game/scripts/locations/haven/events/endings/haven_ending_wrapup.rpy", line 569, in <module>
    $ haven_complete_questlog()
  File "game/scripts/locations/haven/events/triggers.rpy", line 412, in haven_complete_questlog
    log.complete_quest("mq_05_c")
  File "game/scripts/core/quest_system/questlog.rpy", line 495, in complete_quest
    self.movequest(quest, self._completiontab)
  File "game/scripts/core/quest_system/questlog.rpy", line 704, in movequest
    self.removequest(quest, quest.tab())
  File "game/scripts/core/quest_system/questlog.rpy", line 700, in removequest
    del self._quests[tab][k]
TypeError: list indices must be integers, not NoneType

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "game/scripts/locations/haven/events/endings/haven_ending_wrapup.rpy", line 569, in script
    $ haven_complete_questlog()
  File "renpy/ast.py", line 1131, in execute
    renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
  File "renpy/python.py", line 1061, in py_exec_bytecode
    exec(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/scripts/locations/haven/events/endings/haven_ending_wrapup.rpy", line 569, in <module>
    $ haven_complete_questlog()
  File "game/scripts/locations/haven/events/triggers.rpy", line 412, in haven_complete_questlog
    log.complete_quest("mq_05_c")
  File "game/scripts/core/quest_system/questlog.rpy", line 495, in complete_quest
    self.movequest(quest, self._completiontab)
  File "game/scripts/core/quest_system/questlog.rpy", line 704, in movequest
    self.removequest(quest, quest.tab())
  File "game/scripts/core/quest_system/questlog.rpy", line 700, in removequest
    del self._quests[tab][k]
  File "renpy/revertable.py", line 97, in do_mutation
    return method(self, *args, **kwargs)
TypeError: list indices must be integers, not NoneType

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Ren'Py 7.5.3.22090809
The Fixer 0.3.5.0
Mon Jan  5 15:01:05 2026
If think is due to a redondant quest completion in ../haven/events/triggers.rpy in " def haven_complete_questlog(slave=False)" :

If not slave situation, the quest is "markdone" which call "_nextstage" wich call then "complete_quest" because no more stage.

So "complete_quest" is call two time, the second time is not the charm...
 

HDussen

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Was going to give this game a go but reading that Sammy is "like a tamagotchi" (choices the player makes aren't respected) and reviews saying updates can break stuff... Is this still worth playing or is it just pure RNG? Sounds annoying. I'm super interested in the wardrobe! Does it affect anything?
The choices thing is only partly accurate. Sammy will almost always behave in a manner that is consistent with player choices, as long as those choices are consistent. For instance, it is possible to select Broodmother origin and then try to avoid getting pregnant. Or select Party Girl origin and try to avoid alcohol. But if you do, then yes, Sammy will fight you. But that is not a random thing, it is a consequence of an earlier choice. Or you could get Sammy blind drunk, and then she won't listen to you if you try to avoid having sex.

Sure, it may not always be perfect, and bugs are to be expected in a game that is in development, but it is rare for Sammy to ignore player input without good reason.

As for updates breaking stuff, please keep in mind that many people are using leaked dev builds to play, and those are meant for testing. For instance, if you read back on this thread, you can find multiple instances of wine not stocking properly in shops. Investigating that bug has revealed that this is a bug introduced in v0.3.4.18 (the last dev build leaked here) and then carried over if playing a save used with that build in v0.3.5.0, the latest public version.
(That being said, 0.3.5.0 has a number of serious bugs, so it is probably a good idea to wait for a fix to come out. Should not be too long.)
 

SaSteiner

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Sure, it may not always be perfect, and bugs are to be expected in a game that is in development, but it is rare for Sammy to ignore player input without good reason.
Also one should consider, that the game world also isn't nice. Just because Sammy/you don't want something to happen, doesn't mean the world bends to your will. After all, in the game world, law and order isn't properly enforced, thus criminals like rapists more commonly exists. Which also leads to customers might not listen to Sammy, if she doesn't want a creampie.

Thus also the discussion to block anal or other sex options makes no sense if you look at the world.
 
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I thought that myself when it first happened, but checking customize through the cheat menu doesn't have a purple.
Weird.
- Start a new game
- Go to "skin color"
- Pick any default box at the top that isn't the first
- Use the color wheel to give Sammy whatever skin color you want

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What's the best perk to start with?
Former Man, so you get to play for two ingame weeks before deciding on your actual starting perk. Provides a nice x2 boost to Fitness too (Gym Bunny is only x1.5) so it's a great way to grind up some quick muscle before Danger Days kick in, and the only downside is -40 to max Confidence which won't be an issue that early in the game anyway. And by the time it is you get to pick a different Origin and lose Former Man so your Confidence is likely back to its default cap again unless you pick Bambi (-70).
 
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Former Man, so you get to play for two ingame weeks before deciding on your actual starting perk. Provides a nice x2 boost to Fitness too (Gym Bunny is only x1.5) so it's a great way to grind up some quick muscle before Danger Days kick in, and the only downside is -40 to max Confidence which won't be an issue that early in the game anyway. And by the time it is you get to pick a different Origin and lose Former Man so your Confidence is likely back to its default cap again unless you pick Bambi (-70).
I will just add that Former Man for now allow you to get the exhibitionist perk on day 2 if you know how...
 

SaSteiner

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That’s fine, but it’s ridiculous how Sammy can be trying for a baby and you can select creampie and Sammy will still get pissy over being inseminated.
That's of course truly. A bit annoying if you choose that she want it inside, the man chooses to do it outside, but fails to do so and Sam being annoyed about that is something the Dev has to look at.
 

boobmanlord

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Yes, the clothes you wear affect how the world reacts to you, obviously the sluttier you look the more attention you'll draw
Awesome to hear! This is definitely a big plus for me. Thank you so much!

(That being said, 0.3.5.0 has a number of serious bugs, so it is probably a good idea to wait for a fix to come out. Should not be too long.)
Noted about choices. Sounds pretty reasonable to me, at least how I tend to play these sort of games. I guess I'll clear my backlog and keep an eye for the next version here. Thanks for taking the time to give a detailed response!
 

koza123456789

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What are the conditions to prevent dani from killing oscar? i have a "couldn't be any closer" relation with her and i drank with her like twice, i think, yet i'm at the point where she just kills him if i leave her alone for a while
 

Jiroah

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What are the conditions to prevent dani from killing oscar? i have a "couldn't be any closer" relation with her and i drank with her like twice, i think, yet i'm at the point where she just kills him if i leave her alone for a while
I don't think that drinking only 2 time is enough to prevent that. You need more. To have a good end with Danielle you need to start since the beginning of the game. I think you started her story line way too late (this has been hinted by the dev as the most probable outcome since almost nobody take care of her story line since the beginning).

There are things that make her situation worse too. Like Anabel leaving the troupe.
 

Sam_Tail

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I had planned to have the guide out explaining this, but since I haven't got it yet, I'll write a quick overview of Dani.

There are two values. yan_value and yan_max. Value is her current points, max is her points cap, over 100 points she will go crazy. The max cap starts at 20 when the game starts. This is mostly hidden from the player and only shown on Dani's sprite

Every day she gains crazy points, how much depends on what. Key factors are if she is pregnant (more points if its Oskars), how many times she has been pregnant, if her and Anabel are not talking, if Sammy is preg while they are doing lesbian stuff, and how many times Dani has had paid sex.

The max cap gets raised during parts of her story. Selling herself at the pub, using the glory hole at pub, meeting Theo for the first time, having sex at the dance party, Anabel leaving the troupe.

Her points can be lowered by drinking with her or having sex with her. But having sex with her can in reverse raise her daily points because she gets jealous.

You cant lower her max cap, but you can prevent it getting so high by not making a pub glory hole, waiting with her during her first date with Theo or making sure Anabel doesn't leave the troupe.

If she reaches over 100 points, one of two things can happen. If you haven't triggered the VIP party and are having sex with her, she goes crazy on Sammy, this will lead to Sammy hating her and guaranteed Dani freakout later. If you have passed the first VIP party, then she will freakout and kill Oskar. Even if you have been looking after her, Anabel leaving the troupe spikes her points so much that it will be very difficult to block her freakout.

Drinking with her lowers her points, but you are fighting a losing battle. As she lives more life, she will gain more daily points. Loading old saves deep into the game might have her gain tens of points a day. Essentially you need to look after her enough that once the VIP party is over, you have time to speak to Dani and Anabel and have them make friends again. Once they make friends again, Dani will lose crazy points faster than she can gain them until she reaches 0, where her freakout event is blocked.

Having sex with her is a double edged sword. It will lower her current points more but raise her daily points gain. Neither one is better (i think)
 

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I wasn't crazy about having to babysit Dani, so this is helpful.

Just to clarify, once you fix Anabel and Dani's friendship, is everything on the table at the point? Mostly asking because I put glory holes everywhere, and I want to make sure I'm not unintentionally dooming the poor girl.
 

Sam_Tail

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I wasn't crazy about having to babysit Dani, so this is helpful.

Just to clarify, once you fix Anabel and Dani's friendship, is everything on the table at the point? Mostly asking because I put glory holes everywhere, and I want to make sure I'm not unintentionally dooming the poor girl.
Yes, once they are friends again, her freakout event is blocked.

She might still be able to tie you up though. Haven't tested it and just thought about it while writing this comment.
 

Bocoboco

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Yes, once they are friends again, her freakout event is blocked.

She might still be able to tie you up though. Haven't tested it and just thought about it while writing this comment.
Okay, cool. Thank you.

One more question, what happens to Anabel if you either, say, progress the dance storyline, but don't really interact with Dani, or just totally ignore everything. I know Dani's fate is inevitable if you don't step in, but I imagine Anabel doesn't stick around for long either?

Okay, one more one more question, What's Sveta's deal? Is she just the vehicle in which the dance story progresses, or is she gonna do anything else eventually?
 

koza123456789

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can I cheat it by just changing dani_post_vip_anabel_reconclie_chain to 1 or smh? Or do I have to keep track on yan_value an lower it from time to time, cause I already did so much in game that there's no way I'm rolling back to the first party :V
 
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