the future of adult games
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- Jun 28, 2017
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Theres going to be less money poured to porn game devs as they can't make games that people want to pay money for.
Maybe eventually an actual replacement for patreon sprouts up that doesn't use paypal and allows rape/incest/lolis but until then things will just get worse and people with talent wont waste their time on a career with limited money making potential.
Maybe eventually an actual replacement for patreon sprouts up that doesn't use paypal and allows rape/incest/lolis but until then things will just get worse and people with talent wont waste their time on a career with limited money making potential.
- Apr 30, 2017
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My hopes are that devs will move on from incest and try some more original content.
But being more realistic they will stick with patreons' rules until there is some alternative, like Sponsorion.
But being more realistic they will stick with patreons' rules until there is some alternative, like Sponsorion.
- May 10, 2017
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Orginal: Girl is the Daughter of the Female Neighbour from old Town.
Patch: DMD
Any Problem, Officer? :tf:
- May 8, 2017
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Only solution is a real platform and market just like japanese. Our western christian culture has sexual fixation so it's rather unlikely we'll be able to create such a thing in a predictable culture. Underage sex, rape, incest and other extreme fetishes are being hunted regardless if they're real or not in the western countries so it might take a while.
True on the part of religion getting adult content cornered. But as far as US law goes well Adult fiction content should not and is not legally a problem.
- Jul 4, 2017
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Doesn't bother me at all. Plenty of games out without incest or rape.
All it means is developers will have to be more original than "a member of my family is in the shower .... lets spy on them".
Nevermind the always ridiculous "but it hurts mom, you made it like that" and despite having 4 kids and being in her 40's she still doesn't know how dicks work and drops down on him to make the pain go away......
All it means is developers will have to be more original than "a member of my family is in the shower .... lets spy on them".
Nevermind the always ridiculous "but it hurts mom, you made it like that" and despite having 4 kids and being in her 40's she still doesn't know how dicks work and drops down on him to make the pain go away......
- Oct 28, 2016
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Less money? The mainstream adult market is HUGE compared to the tiny incest/rape niche. I'm sorry but the only losers in this mess will be the incest and rape lovers.
Original content, huh? Good one. Get ready for lots more of the same basic game where girls grow penises/boys get boobs!
Everything related to gaming goes through a couple of downpatches, and rise stronger and better from it.
This is not different.
Patreon(Paypall) is putting down the hammer for things they don't like, a new platform will rise above that where everything comes back stronger. (It only takes time to work something like that out, but i'm confident that something will emerge from the ground this year).
Does all the crap with patreon(Paypall) sucks.... Hell F*cking yes.... But the community will grow stronger off it.
You need to know what is not going to work before you can improve it...
And i can already guess what will be the next issue what is going to cause a lot of commotion(GFX becoming more realistic every year in this genre... So the discussion of "when is it to realistic" will emerge also in the coming years.)
And at this point the demand for these kind of games/movies/stories is growing exponentially... So (i believe)that these kind of games are only just beginning.
This is not different.
Patreon(Paypall) is putting down the hammer for things they don't like, a new platform will rise above that where everything comes back stronger. (It only takes time to work something like that out, but i'm confident that something will emerge from the ground this year).
Does all the crap with patreon(Paypall) sucks.... Hell F*cking yes.... But the community will grow stronger off it.
You need to know what is not going to work before you can improve it...
And i can already guess what will be the next issue what is going to cause a lot of commotion(GFX becoming more realistic every year in this genre... So the discussion of "when is it to realistic" will emerge also in the coming years.)
And at this point the demand for these kind of games/movies/stories is growing exponentially... So (i believe)that these kind of games are only just beginning.
One thing to keep in mind about alternatives is that they can't really be as viable as Patreon is. Putting aside that Patreon is better established (so easier to get patrons for) there's the why to Patreon's rules. Essentially Patreon is trying to have its cake and eat it too. They're not openly allowing pornography, so they get less in the way of regulations/costs and can manage to appeal to the likes of Paypal, but they are turning a blind eye to as much adult content as they can get away with. Each time they crack down on a game like DmD, it's in order to protect the other adult devs on their platform. If they tried to defend incest/rape/loli content, then they'd get ripped to pieces by the media and be regulated as if they dealt purely in pornography, so instead they turn a blind eye, and when someone forces them to confront adult content that doesn't fit within their rules then they have to act - so they make some token gesture like suspending the most unpalatable (to groups like Paypal) content.
Realistically, any Patreon alternative is going to have to take a larger cut of pledges than Patreon to make up for this gap in business practice, which is going to turn away the more 'normie' erodevs who still have active Patreon pages. This decreases the number of people who'll sign up to the new service (since most adult games will still be on Patreon) which in turn means less money for the creators who do sign up to the new service.
The problem isn't really Patreon, it's the stigma around sex and - more specifically - the puritan ethic of Paypal and other billing companies (which in turn is somewhat down to the way adult content is regulated). It's something of a systemic change that isn't going away without a culture shift and/or legislation.
- Mar 4, 2018
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holy moly!
can't help but gonna be straight: dumbest comment of the week!
year-x: "does not concern me - they only go against [not-me]"
year-x+1: "does not concern me - they only go against [not-me] and [not-me-either]
[...]
year x+n "oh noes! Now they're going against me - and now noone is left to support me, since they all got done with already while I was all <<doesn't concern me!>> "
If it is against anyone's free speech / free expression of personality, it is always against YOUR free speech/ free expression of personality.
Your position there is the damn bloody STUPID, and despicably opportunist line of thinking my grandparents had.
Only nowadays the censorship/ disposal of whatever group of humans is not (not officially, not in "the west") done by government, but by private "service" companies/ trusts/ (quasi-)monopolists /mafia - aka. paypal, ALL credit card companies, even some "real" banks.
Really, either reconsider your thinking, or please choose some other avatar, because taking such position does not merit a penguin avatar of that style (should be left to software devs anyways - imo.)
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and just so you know, although basically irrelevant - me not interested (neutral) in incest, and rape to me not "sexy".
- Jul 4, 2017
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What does a penguin wearing a Liverpool Football Club shirt have to do with anything you rambling bastard?
If you think i'm going to get all in a huff over shit that doesn't bother me you are very sadly mistaken. You can rant and rave all you like, it's not going to change how Paypal views things nor will Patreon change their rules to suit you. I've got more important things to do with my time than wail about the injustice of not being able to peep on my sister in the shower in incest game #298756 .... like washing my hair.
If devs gave a shit about what they wanted to do they would find alternate means and there are alternate means out there.
Whining like a set of bitches isn't going to change things.
Reconsider my thinking?
Wind your neck in, numpty.
Hardly going to take the advice of someone that thinks a football shirt wearing penguin should be left to software developers.
I think you should lay off the sugar for a while. Maybe tell your parents to stop buying fizzy drinks, they seem to be fucking with your mind a bit too much.
- Mar 4, 2018
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well, I sh/c-ould have known, that you'll take it all personal (and then going cheap), and not me being against that position/ argument you stated there ...
Me neither I am not "wasting my time" thinking "fighting" against paypal/ cc-company X is any road leading to any sort of "success" or "victory".
But that does not make retreating to "hey, me no member of [currently-harrassed-group], so all is well" position any less ... pathetic.
no wearing LFC or Arsenal or whatever shirt will change that. (Özil all the way!)
Me neither I am not "wasting my time" thinking "fighting" against paypal/ cc-company X is any road leading to any sort of "success" or "victory".
But that does not make retreating to "hey, me no member of [currently-harrassed-group], so all is well" position any less ... pathetic.
no wearing LFC or Arsenal or whatever shirt will change that. (Özil all the way!)
Funding platforms are already springing up. The one I'm holding out for is called Sponsorion. Search the word, you'll find a thead about it. In it I quote a post from an email correspondence with their team about fees, payment providers, and what content is allowed.
- May 8, 2017
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It's similiar in Europe. Except for underage restrictions (so loli can't shine) everything is seemingly fine. But it's all about our western sex-oriented mentality. Just like paypal, no real funding site will deal with such things as they're considered to be shameless, sick and barely legal. In Japan sexuality in art is part of their culture and they don't have any problems with all these rape-loli games being sold in a norm shopping platform
- Apr 30, 2017
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I would say the basic game as far as western AG goes involves a younger sister, older sister and a mother, but that's just me.
When it comes to future, the way I see we will continue to get more repetitive games as more people will jump on the opportunity to make money with, that's not necessarily a bad thing, as popular categories are popular for a reason and people have the right to make a living with their work. On the other hand, even if by larger sampling, I see more creative games popping up, as we get more new creators or people that wouldn't make an adult game before. At least that's my hope, when it comes to games in general IMO there's no bigger crime than being generic.
- Jul 16, 2017
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you ain't alone if you think that this particular story has been told too often...I don't care if it has incest in it or some other kink I do not share but the one thing I want out of a game is a unique plot and feel to it...to topic...
While Patreon won't change stance for legal as well as moral reasons ( yeah right...they simply made too much money to hide the breach of rules put in place to save there asses from court...I think the main reason why nsfw content get's zero advertisement is because they knew very well from the get go what content would turn a dime ) other platforms may rise but given time they instead will face the same problem...chances are that once big enough to get recognized whichever platform does allow Incest, rape, loli, mind-control and shit may also be big enough to get judged for doing so...leading to a change of stance or possible shutdown of service.
While I agree that for any creative process within the virtual world rules and boundaries should not exist the silly "violence from games" discussion clearly shows that separating the real world from computer games is not as easy as it should be... that said if you ain't ready to publicly fight for incest/rape content to be fine in games you have to accept the public rejection to allow such content in return....chances are that one day the the argument will be..." he would not have knocked up his mother if it wouldn't be for these vile adult games"
or " he is a rapist but it's the game that turned him into one..."
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Same, incest is not a turn off for, it's just that it's not a turn on either. I put it in the same category as romance in movies, I don't mind it and when well written I can love it, but I don't go watch a movie when all it offers is sappy romance.
And yes, separating real life and game is a real hard thing for people who don't actually play games, even when said content is aimed at adults fully responsible for their actions. I can approve of certain content getting a hard ban on certain content like loli because the realistic ********** is a crime in many places even if virtual, but rape, drugs and incest have been present in the entertainment industry for a long time and they don't have any problems with the law.