PickerLewd

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A rivalry between two football teams sounds like a fight between boys, where do girls come in? :WaitWhat: :BootyTime:.

And every time I read about "football", I wonder if it refers to the American version played in the NFL or the world version, also known as soccer :ROFLMAO:.
 

hoshin0119

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We have also decided to separate the Patreon pages for our games, as some people may only want to see the monthly content for one game rather than a split between the two.
This developer just wants to double their income but pretends they're doing it for the supporters, lol. From the perspective of supporters, they want to back one developer and get access to all of their content, not split their support between two accounts for the same person. Is there anyone who would want that? Just be honest and say you split the accounts because you want to make double the money. Why pretend it's for the benefit of the supporters and come up with nonsense like this?
 

kagancy

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This developer just wants to double their income but pretends they're doing it for the supporters, lol. From the perspective of supporters, they want to back one developer and get access to all of their content, not split their support between two accounts for the same person. Is there anyone who would want that? Just be honest and say you split the accounts because you want to make double the money. Why pretend it's for the benefit of the supporters and come up with nonsense like this?
Our main source of income has never been patreon. We spend the money we earn from patreon completely back into the game. We also thought about it a lot, but we thought that if we run both projects through the same patreon, everything will be more complicated. As we said, we don't earn much from patreon, what we earn is generally spent back to the game. That's why we made this decision.
 
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AlexMpog

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We've been planning this game for about 1.5 years, but we weren't actively developing it because The Grey Dream was our priority. Now we are very close to finishing season 1. We always think we need to take a step forward. The Grey Dream will continue to be published at the same pace.
Well, I hope It's gonna work for you the way you expect it to.
History is not on your side but there are exceptions.
In the meantime I'm just gonna wait for more content with Anna... and Lily... and Martha, and maybe also Beth and Lisa:rolleyes:
 
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MiltonPowers

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Our main source of income has never been patreon. We spend the money we earn from patreon completely back into the game. We also thought about it a lot, but we thought that if we run both projects through the same patreon, everything will be more complicated. As we said, we don't earn much from patreon, what we earn is generally spent back to the game. That's why we made this decision.
I actually understand splitting into 2 patreons for different games. There was one dev I supported because I absolutely loved the game. Then he started a second game that I really disliked. So I had to decide whether I could keep supporting him, when I really didn't want my money going towards a game that I didn't like.

Well, I hope It's gonna work for you the way you expect it to.
History is not on your side but there are exceptions.
In the meantime I'm just gonna wait for more content with Anna... and Lily... and Martha, and maybe also Beth and Lisa:rolleyes:
now-youre-just-being-greedy.gif
 
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dolfe67

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I actually understand splitting into 2 patreons for different games. There was one dev I supported because I absolutely loved the game. Then he started a second game that I really disliked. So I had to decide whether I could keep supporting him, when I really didn't want my money going towards a game that I didn't like.
If it's a solo dev or even a 2-dev team, you still support both game since they can't work on 2 games at the same time, unless you pause your patronage while they work on the other game but it's not very transparent
 

gabby.gcn

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This developer just wants to double their income but pretends they're doing it for the supporters, lol. From the perspective of supporters, they want to back one developer and get access to all of their content, not split their support between two accounts for the same person. Is there anyone who would want that? Just be honest and say you split the accounts because you want to make double the money. Why pretend it's for the benefit of the supporters and come up with nonsense like this?
You clearly do not know how Patreon works. If he wanted to paywall the content he could just put the new game's updates for sale individually. Also, picture it this way: If you don't want to support game A, but instead, want to support game B, why would you want your money to be split with game A in the first place? Sounds ridiculous.
Not everyone is an evil greedy monster, buddy. If you want to chase real evil, check out EA or Activision, or even VISA if multi national banks fill up your alley.
 

dolfe67

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If you don't want to support game A, but instead, want to support game B, why would you want your money to be split with game A in the first place?
Like I said just before, whether there is 1 or 2 creator accounts, you support both games anyway. If you patronage both games, you support the dev twice as much. Unless one game is overly popular to the other and the latter doesn't get worked on as much
 

imagica

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They are great, yes, but we had our last dev.log on November 20 where it was told that only animations left. Today at December 30 no release timeline yet and news about second game. I may be just a dirty ass pirate on a pirate forum, but the more games I read about, the more questionable decisions by numerous developers regarding work process I see. Of course, each case is different, time and money situation, and I clearly don't see the full picture, but I have seen this pattern before. With no good results. Hope to be wrong.
 
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kagancy

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They are great, yes, but we had our last dev.log on November 20 where it was told that only animations left. Today at December 30 no release timeline yet and news about second game. I may be just a dirty ass pirate on a pirate forum, but the more games I read about, the more questionable decisions by numerous developers regarding work process I see. Of course, each case is different, time and money situation, and I clearly don't see the full picture, but I have seen this pattern before. With no good results. Hope to be wrong.
We did not share dev logs because we had nothing to write about. Since coding and rendering are separate processes, there may be time differences. We are currently working on episode 7. The 6th episode is only left to publish.
 
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hoshin0119

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If you don't want to support game A, but instead, want to support game B, why would you want your money to be split with game A in the first place? Sounds ridiculous.
It’s actually about supporting the developer, not the game itself. By supporting the developer, you gain access to both Game A and Game B that they are creating, which isn’t a disadvantage for the supporters.

Friend, your point only applies if the developer increases the support amount when making more than one game. For example, if a supporter pays $10 and gains access to the posts for both Game A and Game B, that’s beneficial for the supporter. However, your argument applies in cases where the developer raises the access fee to $20 for existing $10 supporters just because they’re making a second game. In that case, it would be about not wanting to pay an extra $10 specifically for Game B.
 

gabby.gcn

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It’s actually about supporting the developer, not the game itself. By supporting the developer, you gain access to both Game A and Game B that they are creating, which isn’t a disadvantage for the supporters.

Friend, your point only applies if the developer increases the support amount when making more than one game. For example, if a supporter pays $10 and gains access to the posts for both Game A and Game B, that’s beneficial for the supporter. However, your argument applies in cases where the developer raises the access fee to $20 for existing $10 supporters just because they’re making a second game. In that case, it would be about not wanting to pay an extra $10 specifically for Game B.
You're wrong. If a game is not profitable, then there's no reason for any sane person to keep pushing it, and if they happened to mix their Patreons then there wouldn't be a way for them to know which one is making the dough.
Devs are real people (believe it or not), and they need to eat and make a living. Making games is both hard and expensive. So, if you actually value their work, you might aswell acknowledge it by pleading on the game you enjoy, and not to the faces behind it.
 

hoshin0119

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You're wrong. If a game is not profitable, then there's no reason for any sane person to keep pushing it, and if they happened to mix their Patreons then there wouldn't be a way for them to know which one is making the dough.
Devs are real people (believe it or not), and they need to eat and make a living. Making games is both hard and expensive. So, if you actually value their work, you might aswell acknowledge it by pleading on the game you enjoy, and not to the faces behind it.
So, what you're saying is:
If, as in the example I just gave, a developer creates two games under a single Patreon account, the assumption is that the support funds would also double. Did I understand that correctly?

They either
1. Develop two games under a single account and increase the support funds proportionally,
or
2. Split into two accounts and receive support funds separately for each.

If the argument is based on choosing between these two scenarios, then I have nothing more to add.
I was naturally assuming there would be no change in the support funds.
If the assumption is that support funds increase in proportion to the number of games developed under a single account, then what you're saying makes sense. you're right

But the reason I thought that way is that, at least among the developers I support, the only one who split their Patreon account because they were developing multiple games was Inceton Games. However, even in their case, they develop 2~4 games under a single Patreon account, so it was understandable that they decided to split their accounts.
 
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