HTML The Hellfire Club [v0.27] [Scarlet Letters]

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

That's a bit telling, isn't it? When the sharing is done in such a way as to make you not want to share at all. Now that you mention it, I remember feeling there was not as much interaction with Daisy as I'd want, if you shared her. Sure, you could win her in some club events, but the fact that she insisted on keeping a façade while engaged meant that you had no chance to fuck her other than the club, where you had to share her (if you were in for that content in particular). On the other hand, you could fuck around all week an she couldn't be less bothered. At one point she even said "it's not like we're exclusive, right?" That gave me so many "free pass" vibes. With all the victorian restraint, at times it felt (if you played dominant) like she saw the MC as a potential successful businessman she could marry and that would grant her the free reign she actually craved. I think the only woman that made her jealous was Nicole, which blurs the picture a little, almost seems like she cares. I know Daisy was written mainly as a dominant woman for a submissive MC, but at the same time, the content for a dominant MC was good enough to make it interesting. Just fell short of true stag/vixen because of how some scenes play out if you share - you can opt out, but if you choose to play, you feel like the MC has very little or no control over things going on at the club, while other characters do seem to pull the strings to satisfy themselves. I wonder if, two years after the last time I played (up to the Paris honeymoon back then) the main story's development has the MC acquiring more status and control. I'm all for the club's games, as long as I'm the one that gets to game the odds. Not a gambler at heart, I hate losing, and that's what made the Matthew/Lady Bentley episode feel so particularly sour. It felt like Matthew was the winner of the night for getting Daisy, and the MC definitely took the short straw.

Well yeah I'd say that's the whole problem with a dom/sub fetish lover in the drivers seat, everything else must be demarcated to their worldview

 

[TritonSands]

The story and art are great but it would be much improved if there were some gifs and animated scenes. Sound effects or background music would be a plus. Getting a job in the brothel keeps showing the exact same client and pics over and over. Anyway good luck with the game.

 

[reidanota]

Well yeah I'd say that's the whole problem with a dom/sub fetish lover in the drivers seat, everything else must be demarcated to their worldview

Don't brand me, I'm not even into dom/sub fetishism Granted, I always prefer to be in the driver's seat as a player, even with a sub character - and could play a sub path if in the right mood and provided some agency were still possible, like choosing to avoid any actual humiliation of the MC (I don't think submissive roleplay and masochism have to go hand-in-hand). My only point (and not really complaining) is that the lady bentley scene felt deeply unpleasant. While reading, all I could imagine was the MC thinking about Matthew and Daisy fucking while he was forced to munch that hideous woman's piss-smelling snatch, on her command. I can't resolve it in any other way than a painful experience. So much so that I wished the MC could have expressed deep displeasure to Daisy afterwards, which is itself what a defeated character would do. Just had to bite the bullet and be happy that Daisy was fully satisfied by Matthew. If only the game gave us a choice to dominate lady bently instead. Or even a reason to play the submissive, gain their trust and later get back at them? Lord and Lady Bentley are exactly the kind of people I dislike in real life, self-conceited bullies. You know I mention it all the time, can't enjoy stories of sharing a LI with dominant pricks, and can't enjoy submitting to them as the MC, either. Probably wouldn't mind it if had been a neutral, non dominant character and the scene played out as pure roleplay. The presence of humiliation elements even when you make dominant choices is the reason I accept that the author was more keen on the sub story, and admire that they still pulled a decent and complete dom path. It also seems possible to make different choices at different times, I don't mind breaking the pure dom role in a game that was designed to provide a mix of content, but I'd want to avoid any humiliation of the MC. I didn't know, at the time, that you could avoid that scene altogether by not engaging in that week's activity, and even get a love scene with Daisy instead (perhaps it wasn't in the version I played). So, the choice is there, you only need to assume that club games are risky business, you can get burnt. As I said, I'm not a gambler, don't enjoy the "thrill" of being exposed to the chance of losing badly, and prefer to roleplay a calculating MC that somehow "knows" when sharing will be rewarding, and when it won't, get all the rewarding scenes, avoid all the masochistic ones.

Anyway, let nobody think this is all that this game is about. We're talking about one scene (but one that went straight into my unpleasant scene HoF). This game has more degrees of liberty than most I've played.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Don't brand me, I'm not even into dom/sub fetishism Granted, I always prefer to be in the driver's seat as a player, even with a sub character - and could play a sub path if in the right mood and provided some agency were still possible, like choosing to avoid any actual humiliation of the MC (I don't think submissive roleplay and masochism have to go hand-in-hand). My only point (and not really complaining) is that the lady bentley scene felt deeply unpleasant. While reading, all I could imagine was the MC thinking about Matthew and Daisy fucking while he was forced to munch that hideous woman's piss-smelling snatch, on her command. I can't resolve it in any other way than a painful experience. So much so that I wished the MC could have expressed deep displeasure to Daisy afterwards, which is itself what a defeated character would do. Just had to bite the bullet and be happy that Daisy was fully satisfied by Matthew. If only the game gave us a choice to dominate lady bently instead. Or even a reason to play the submissive, gain their trust and later get back at them? Lord and Lady Bentley are exactly the kind of people I dislike in real life, self-conceited bullies. You know I mention it all the time, can't enjoy stories of sharing a LI with dominant pricks, and can't enjoy submitting to them as the MC, either. Probably wouldn't mind it if had been a neutral, non dominant character and the scene played out as pure roleplay. The presence of humiliation elements even when you make dominant choices is the reason I accept that the author was more keen on the sub story, and admire that they still pulled a decent and complete dom path. It also seems possible to make different choices at different times, I don't mind breaking the pure dom role in a game that was designed to provide a mix of content, but I'd want to avoid any humiliation of the MC. I didn't know, at the time, that you could avoid that scene altogether by not engaging in that week's activity, and even get a love scene with Daisy instead (perhaps it wasn't in the version I played). So, the choice is there, you only need to assume that club games are risky business, you can get burnt. As I said, I'm not a gambler, don't enjoy the "thrill" of being exposed to the chance of losing badly, and prefer to roleplay a calculating MC that somehow "knows" when sharing will be rewarding, and when it won't, get all the rewarding scenes, avoid all the masochistic ones.

Anyway, let nobody think this is all that this game is about. We're talking about one scene (but one that went straight into my unpleasant scene HoF). This game has more degrees of liberty than most I've played.

oh that wasnt at you, but me speaking about the writing/dev in general and the overall tone. As in - one of the problems in design mindset is it frames this black and white world where everythings a 'dom' or 'sub' action and there are no shades of gray (or orthogonal to that entire axis)

 

[reidanota]

oh that wasnt at you, but me speaking about the writing/dev in general and the overall tone. As in - one of the problems in design mindset is it frames this black and white world where everythings a 'dom' or 'sub' action and there are no shades of gray (or orthogonal to that entire axis)

Yeah, that's what attracted me to this game the first time I played it - through options you could, to a certain extent, modulate the experience. Such as being a dom at the club but paying for sessions with a domina. Unfortunately, unless it changed, you can't be a dom with Daisy and sometimes roleplay the inverse - if I recall correctly, she's quick to brand you as a "sub for life" if you ever give her any break.

 

[JohnCasey]

It says my saves are all corrupted which has happened before