VN Ren'Py The Home of Pleasure [Ep.2 P3 v0.2.3] [Whispering Eye Games]

[Bobbycanfly]

As I said in my previous post, the whole shoplifting story is absurd, starting from Beth stealing 500$ worth of panties and such. Then the two goons. Then the MC not going to the police.

This whole scene needs to be scrapped because it's going to ruin the story, "porn logic" or not.

I just got through the shakedown scene and came here to complain. I got to it last night and had to stop I was rolling my eyes so hard.

 

[S1nsational]

Sophies last scene seems to be bugged since it is skipped if you're not on Beth path.

It makes sense for the story for Sophie's scene not to trigger. You need to be on Beth's path for events to happen that would guarantee the privacy needed for Sophie's scene

 

[Wolfram99]

It makes sense for the story for Sophie's scene not to trigger. You need to be on Beth's path for events to happen that would guarantee the privacy needed for Sophie's scene

Well the issue is that before MC goes to the bathroom Sophie tells him she is going to blow him when she is on the bed with him, but he returns to bed as if Sophie's scene never happened.

 

[S1nsational]

the shoplifting scene and meeting Tony scene is very close to completely ruining the game for me.

I understand that the mc ain't some badass character, but that does not mean he has to be pussy either.
There are 10 better ways he could have handled both situation, which doesn't include violence.
quite frankly I cannot understand why the author thought it is good for the game.
MC is pathetic, and it is without a doubt holding the game back.

Please do tell, what are these 10 better ways? I'm assuming all 10 of them equally guarantee MC and his sisters safety.
Genuinely, looking forward to getting educated. Personally, I can't think of any other ways out of that that aren't complete gambles.

As I said in my previous post, the whole shoplifting story is absurd, starting from Beth stealing 500$ worth of panties and such. Then the two goons. Then the MC not going to the police.

This whole scene needs to be scrapped because it's going to ruin the story, "porn logic" or not.

Chances are, the underwear isn't actually worth that much to start with. They could have been worth $50 and they'd still have acted the same.

And calling the police would still fuck over the sisters future. Which MC was trying to avoid. Reporting a worse crime that you witnessed while committing your own crime still gets you arrested for the first crime you committed. Happens a lot to thieves who report fucked up stuff they found in a house they burgled or were going to burgle. Or if people find a body while urban spelunking etc


And finally, I can see this entire situation about needing tons of money fast being used as a springboard for MC getting a better job and having the required funds to be able to support having a harem. This situation have urgency to it so desperation will allow MC and those around him to consider things they wouldn't have otherwise.

I certainly can't see MC ending the game still a cinema manager.

 

[S1nsational]

Well the issue is that before MC goes to the bathroom Sophie tells him she is going to blow him when she is on the bed with him, but he returns to bed as if Sophie's scene never happened.

Ah. I was thinking it was a branching issue from something earlier, yea that certainly sounds like a bug

 

[Lasse.9]

The larger problem for me with that scene is not how the MC reacts in there, with a knife and a gun infront of his face, but how he does later. Thought i'm really not a fan of the scene, or mob/mafia storylines which for whatever reason every other game includes nowdays.
He doesen't even think about going to the cops...i mean, maybe they are mafia or whatever, but neither he nor we know and they proved to be they just increas money demands as they please. Paying them seems dumb imo, why would i believe they will accept that amount and never bother the MC again, rather unlikely. To me it seems more likely that if they see the MC has money and is intimidated enough to go along with their demands they will just come again and again...so yeah, i really would have liked a option to not pay them, involve the police or whatever.

It seems to be quite badly written. There is a almost zero percent chance that paying them is going to be a smart choice. I think there is going to be way out involving Kate and her dad, but that might require being involved with Kate.
But no matter that, there definitely should be a better choice.

Agreeing with their extortion is a really dumb choice.
I could understand if he agreed initially, but didn't plan on following through, and looking for an alternative. That would have been fine.

This is the second time the MC has been quite pathetic in a confrontation. There is a pattern and I don't like it.

 

[Lasse.9]

Please do tell, what are these 10 better ways? I'm assuming all 10 of them equally guarantee MC and his sisters safety.
Genuinely, looking forward to getting educated. Personally, I can't think of any other ways out of that that aren't complete gambles.

first and foremost: the problem is not just the scene itself, but also how he acts afterwards.
To continue to think paying them is a smart choice is pretty dumb.
And second: Every option including the one he is taking is a gamble. There is always gonna be risk.

A couple better ideas and option that I quickly thought of are:
1. Agree temporarily, but then afterwards look for better options. Paying them what they ask for is stupid.
2. Agree to talk but only if Beth leaves, or at least reposition her behind you. Probably won't work, but if it does it would great.
3. Refuse and call their bluff. Their position is not as strong as their were trying to make it seem, and unless they are complete idiots they will realize that as well.
4. Negotiate a compromise. He doesn't negotiate, he just whines.
5. A combination. e.g. option 2 then option 4 and then 3 or leaving to the store if needed.

Yes there is risk in the above options, but the option MC went with does not include less risk, instead he just delayed it.

And of course: don't show excessive weakness and/or fear

 

[Skargaroth]

Can I ask if there's a way to not be on Bo's path? tried non-committal answers etc, still end up being with Bo

 

[Ozygator]

Basically, from what I can tell, all these "issues" (except maybe the one about choosing mom and calling her aunt) is just a simple interface, rather than something complicated enough to annoy players at the beginning (What do you usually call her / what do you call her when angry / what do you call her when teasing, etc.)

Basically, just accept that this is the devs way of saving time and getting around all the issues that come from trying to actually make money off of their efforts and have content that appeals to a specific (but seemingly large) fanbase without resorting to a round-about "patch".

If they write the dialogue the correct way, and allow the defining of relationships by the player then they wouldn't need any sort of patch.

But that assumes they can actually write with the correct specific relationship neutral dialogue to begin with, which with this being on F95 is a large ask I know...

 

[Absurdity]

Need some changelogs

 

[NeoEros]

Honestly feel kinda bored out of my mind by this game. I'm on Day 11 but so far it's just slice-of-life without many exciting moments, the female models are so outdated (especially the three not-sisters) that it fails to compensate for the boredom, and tbh not a fan of Beth just waltzing into MC's life with a lot of choices related to money even tho she's his not-half-sister. And from what I've seen from previous comments, it seems that the plot takes an irrational turn involving her???

 

[Morbius]

The proper relationships are as follows;

Angela - mom to Grace and Sophia, aunt to Jay (mother's side, not related to Jay's father, which is why she doesn't show much reaction to the news of his death)
Grace/Sophia - twins/sisters, Jay's cousins
Beth - Jay's sister (half-sister), Grace and Sophia's cousin

And unlike what a previous poster had stated before, Beth's relationship variable is not tied to Grace or Sophia.

I ended up putting Angela as an aunt for Grace and Sophia, but also kept them as Jay's cousins. This seems to make more sense in the current dialogue.

 

[Hungover00]

And calling the police would still fuck over the sisters future. Which MC was trying to avoid. Reporting a worse crime that you witnessed while committing your own crime still gets you arrested for the first crime you committed. Happens a lot to thieves who report fucked up stuff they found in a house they burgled or were going to burgle. Or if people find a body while urban spelunking etc

That's why you hire a lawyer to arrange a deal, information for immunity. Might not be cheaper than 5K in the short term, but probably is in the long term.

 

[Dan_147word]

idk, I don't particularly like the shoplifting scene, it just feels like its an over used plot point trope: mc get gets into debt then has to pay it off, I hope its just an arc and not a looming plot point. Also during the scene I was just hoping there was no ntr (thank god there wasn't or else it would have soured the game for me) but then after it annoyed me that there was no option on to ask why she did it and get her side, then have the options to scold or comfort her based on if you like the her reason or not.
I do enjoy the game and hope the next update will be better.

 

[EvilMonkey]

I love this game. I like all the character models, I like the setting, the dialogue is actually bearable and it ticks a bunch of kinks for me.

The shoplifting scene came out of left field on two fronts, for one it doesn't make sense from a character standpoint; Beth wouldn't shoplift, especially not £500 worth of lingerie on her first try. And two, where did those thugs come from and which grimy gangster school did they study at? They don't fit in with any kind of people we've seen in the game, they just have stereotypical 'goon' written all over them. I'm assuming they are going to work for Kate's father, with the shop being a front for his business, dragging the MC into trouble with him through association. Or maybe the store will be some kind of front for 'the competition' and if the MC takes them down it will be seen as a favour to Kate's father.

Generally though, the game is good. It looks good, it reads well and it's engrossing.

 

[SteelTiger]

is there a win gallery unlock ?

 

[hakulaku97]

is there a win gallery unlock ?

copy the gallery unlocker file pinned on the op page into the game/ folder

 

[Noskillinvolved]

The shoplifting/extortion scenario is just plain absurd. I'm all for the suspension of disbelief to progress a story but this is just too stupid, and ruins any desire to continue but especially to spend any money on the game.

 

[freddygonzo]

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There is a variable check for "jennifer_path" in this update but I don't remember that ever being an option so far. Was it possible to get on her path in a previous update?

Reason for missing the jennifer_path variable was an unfortunate mistake in v0.2:

        "Say hello.":
            $ jennifer_path == True
            call d12jen from _call_d12jen

One equal sign too much there what was fixed for v0.2.21: $ jennifer_path = True
Players coming from v0.2 have to either replay episode 2 from the gym on or use the console command:
jennifer_path = True

There was only one check for this variabel in the 2nd part of E2 so far, adding a little extra monologue, so nothing important missed.

 

[Riddick FItzgerald]

I think there's something wrong with the code for the scene with Kate when she takes you to the office for the first time. The MC wonders if she actually likes him or if she's being nice, then next second Kate's naked on the table and you get the tutorial for the sex system