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VN Ren'Py The Home of Pleasure [Ep.2 P3 v0.2.3] [Whispering Eye Games]

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Elduriel

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I think I'd rather skip the 7 years of study and close the mafia path in the next update. Unfortunately, after what happened, I don't think Beth can continue being a LI.

So the only thing this mafia nonsense is going to achieve is to lose a LI, in fact the LI that I liked the most until this happen
why couldn't she? Okay, she shoplifted some clothes, sure, but she isn't the first and won't be the last person to do that. Happens. It's not like she murdered someone. Just to drop her because of that is silly. The whole mafia bullshit isn't her fault (it's the dev's :KEK: ).
 

BakaHu

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Only bad thing about this game is the mc getting shit on by lame ass male npcs mc is a total beta in that regard
 

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I think I'd rather skip the 7 years of study and close the mafia path in the next update. Unfortunately, after what happened, I don't think Beth can continue being a LI.

So the only thing this mafia nonsense is going to achieve is to lose a LI, in fact the LI that I liked the most until this happen
Not even Potter did 7 years, and MC is gifted, probably some isekai shit or something like that. I bet he can pull it off in 3 years. Also it's not like he goes to school for an actual job. He has a nationwide crime empire to rule after all. What does he care for a magical diploma?
 

Raziel_8

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Not even Potter did 7 years, and MC is gifted, probably some isekai shit or something like that. I bet he can pull it off in 3 years. Also it's not like he goes to school for an actual job. He has a nationwide crime empire to rule after all. What does he care for a magical diploma?
Your story sounds already more interesting than the crime nonsense :LOL:
Can already imagine our MC as successor of "He who must not be named", running his world wide crime empire, feared by all...and then some 12y old little shit comes along and continuous to bully the most feard wizard/crime lord the world has ever seen....at the end the little shit kills our MC cause he was to stupid to just take a shotgun and shoot him in the face :whistle:
 

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Your story sounds already more interesting than the crime nonsense :LOL:
Can already imagine our MC as successor of "He who must not be named", running his world wide crime empire, feared by all...and then some 12y old little shit comes along and continuous to bully the most feard wizard/crime lord the world has ever seen....at the end the little shit kills our MC cause he was to stupid to just take a shotgun and shoot him in the face :whistle:
The little 12 year old serial shitter is a 102 years old shaolin monk in disguise and uses a forbidden cultivation technique to destroy all of the MC's chakras using the chi in MC's body
 

YogSothoth1982

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why couldn't she? Okay, she shoplifted some clothes, sure, but she isn't the first and won't be the last person to do that. Happens. It's not like she murdered someone. Just to drop her because of that is silly. The whole mafia bullshit isn't her fault (it's the dev's :KEK: ).
Dev wanted to make it so that being blackmailed by the mafia is because she stole from somewhere she shouldn't have (actually, she shouldn't steal from anyone, but if she wants to, it would be smart to avoid doing it to the Mafia), so I'll act accordingly. It never occurred to Dev that someone could be so upset with her that they would tell her to fuck off.
 

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Dev wanted to make it so that being blackmailed by the mafia is because she stole from somewhere she shouldn't have (actually, she shouldn't steal from anyone, but if she wants to, it would be smart to avoid doing it to the Mafia), so I'll act accordingly. It never occurred to Dev that someone could be so upset with her that they would tell her to fuck off.
It's not like she knew it was the mafia, so that part of the "being smart"comment doesn't work. I understand that some people feel the stealing is disqualifying as an LI, but I don't see it that way myself. Yeah, it gets you into trouble and brings about what looks to be a pretty universally disliked storyline (I really dislike it too), but it doesn't make me reconsider Beth in any way.
 

YogSothoth1982

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It's not like she knew it was the mafia, so that part of the "being smart"comment doesn't work. I understand that some people feel the stealing is disqualifying as an LI, but I don't see it that way myself. Yeah, it gets you into trouble and brings about what looks to be a pretty universally disliked storyline (I really dislike it too), but it doesn't make me reconsider Beth in any way.
Whether it's bad luck or the Dev's deliberate decision, it doesn't change my opinion.

The fact that she didn't know she was stealing from the mafia doesn't make it a good idea. In fact, if we look at the results, it was clearly terrible.

In my opinion, what has happened is enough to decide to break up with her, and I hope that when it happens the reason will be clear.
 
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Whether it's bad luck or the Dev's deliberate decision, it doesn't change my opinion.

The fact that she didn't know she was stealing from the mafia doesn't make it a good idea. In fact, if we look at the results, it was clearly terrible.

In my opinion, what has happened is enough to decide to break up with her, and I hope that when it happens the reason will be clear.
I didn't suggest it was a good idea for her to steal, just that the mafia element didn't come into the decision, as she didn't know they had anything to do with the store.

I see a lot of people saying that her stealing is an absolute dealbreaker and they can't wait to get rid of her, but I wonder if that's really because of the stealing, or if it's because the stealing led to this new plotline that nobody seems to like? How many games have LIs that have questionable traits - stealing, drugs, prostitution, etc., and how many of those LIs are a problem for these people who say Beth's stealing here is enough to be unable to consider her as an LI?
 

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I still need to catch up on 2 updates now for this game but I can see for a fact her stealing won't be a dealbreaker for me when I play it. At the most she will go down in rankings
 

YogSothoth1982

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I didn't suggest it was a good idea for her to steal, just that the mafia element didn't come into the decision, as she didn't know they had anything to do with the store.

I see a lot of people saying that her stealing is an absolute dealbreaker and they can't wait to get rid of her, but I wonder if that's really because of the stealing, or if it's because the stealing led to this new plotline that nobody seems to like? How many games have LIs that have questionable traits - stealing, drugs, prostitution, etc., and how many of those LIs are a problem for these people who say Beth's stealing here is enough to be unable to consider her as an LI?
What I really dislike is the blackmail. And I agree that she couldn't have known, but that doesn't change the fact that it happened and my MC is therefore going to break up with her.

On the other hand, if she were a prostitute (or a slut) I wouldn't have the problem of breaking up her... because I wouldn't have started any relationship with her.

And regarding drugs, they are usually accompanied by prostitution and sluttiness, so it's best to put everything in the same bag and throw it in the river.
 
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i like the characters, i hope the petty criminal stuff gets resolved with no drama, it just doesnt seem to fit with the story, unless it somehow involves kate/tony and even then id rather it was resolved quickly
 

YogSothoth1982

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i like the characters, i hope the petty criminal stuff gets resolved with no drama, it just doesnt seem to fit with the story, unless it somehow involves kate/tony and even then id rather it was resolved quickly
Initially, the developer's idea was to continue the story by developing the criminal underworld and adding some drama. He later reconsidered, and the criminal underworld could be finished in the next update if the player choose do it.
 

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Initially, the developer's idea was to continue the story by developing the criminal underworld and adding some drama. He later reconsidered, and the criminal underworld could be finished in the next update if the player choose do it.
thats pretty much the worst of both worlds because he splits a very fractured game with huge scene variety depending on which LIs you follow or not into two completely different paths. This will skyrocket the workload and waiting times for new updates.
 

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thats pretty much the worst of both worlds because he splits a very fractured game with huge scene variety depending on which LIs you follow or not into two completely different paths. This will skyrocket the workload and waiting times for new updates.
True, thought wasn't it 3 paths ?
-join organized crime
-side with the police to bring down the crime organization
-finish with the crime plot (added as the crime stuff was largely unpopular)
 

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The game definitely needs a walkthrough, it seems the game is going to different branches.
MurrayMods if possible, can you make a walkthrough mod for this game. thanks.
 
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True, thought wasn't it 3 paths ?
-join organized crime
-side with the police to bring down the crime organization
-finish with the crime plot (added as the crime stuff was largely unpopular)
What this means to me is that if you insist on playing the romance-only route (without any crime plot), you will have releases that are short on content. A lot of time will be spent on the criminal organization (with or against), which will have its own LIs for the MC to have fun with. While the players who go along with the crime drama will still have the family and friends, but not as often.
 

Juerhullycin

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True, thought wasn't it 3 paths ?
-join organized crime
-side with the police to bring down the crime organization
-finish with the crime plot (added as the crime stuff was largely unpopular)
You are right, I was so captured by my magical school plot that I forgot that the dev planned 3 paths, but that makes what I outlined in my last post just worse.
 

Raziel_8

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You are right, I was so captured by my magical school plot that I forgot that the dev planned 3 paths, but that makes what I outlined in my last post just worse.
Yeah... i'm curious how the dev plans to remove such an important/large plot, for those which don't want it, without writing an entirely different story. That plot would affect pretty much any relationship and the MC's character and development going forward.

There's also the rather large risk that it will get abandoned because it's too much branching (and we know that will only get worse down the road), or the updates will be really small as the content is split up in 3 paths...
 
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