SiteRip "The JOI Archive" The joi Database Patreon exclusive SiteRip v3.1 [2024-10-14]

[Geocomm]

The entirety of the doujin/fanart for Japanese media is built on this symbiotic relationship.

Doujin is built around the idea that a group of like-minded people can share an interest in something. Doujinshi traces its origins to doujin zasshi or “fanzines”. It’s a common misconception that doujin is synonymous with fanart. For the majority of doujin culture’s history, it was comprised of original works created by small circles who were fans of a medium, not any particular series. Doujinshi is not inherently derivative work and becoming parody work is a much more recent event. It was only born around the 70s at doujin faires.

This is the way it works. It's how you get comiket, with these companies having their own booths/announcement right alongside 4 warehouses of people selling porn of their work.

This little history lesson brings us back to the original topic. The whole point of a convention/market/faire like Comiket, is that copyright holders allow their work to be sold by giving a permit/license during the event. We can look at the rules and guidelines of these conventions. Take Otakon for example.

The Following Items may be sold:

• Any product featuring an artist's original character.
• Commissioned and hand-drawn works made during the convention, provided that they do not violate any other rule.
• Unique, individual, hand-made items
• Fan art which clearly shows that the work is produced by the artist, rather than by the license holder.
• Props that are clearly made by the artist that are original rather than of a licensed nature.

The following items are prohibited from sale:

• Any work with trademarks, logos or official artwork owned by a person or company other than you or your own company, regardless of whether or not the work is original, unless express written permission to sell same is provided.
• Bootleg products.
• Copyright-violating traced, photoshopped, or transferred art. This includes but is not limited to work from "redraw" projects, and pixel artwork, such as perler or other forms of sprites, which directly copy a licensed work.
• 2nd or 3rd party art/sales.
• Products that can be bought at a store either in Japan or the US that you did not create.
• Props that are a replication of a copyrighted and/or licensed nature.
• Images must be original artwork, not referencing or using another person or companies’ intellectual property to create, unless commissioned or authorized by the copyright holder.

These are creators of fan work that respect and care about the original work enough to go through the proper channels and not just selling unlicensed stuff online. Doujinshi are primarily sold in two different ways: Directly by these creators who are permitted to sell at a convention or in a specialist doujinshi store. Buying anywhere else means it is most likely unauthorized.

 

[Geocomm]

To quote the owners of actual Japanese IPs:

“Fanzines don't usually cause many problems as long as they are sold only at one-day exhibitions. We don't categorically reject fanzines in general as a base of manga culture as long as they remain within reasonable bounds. The Internet society is helping the violation of copyright. It might be time for fanzine publishers, who are supposed to expand the horizons of manga culture, to seriously face one rule of the real world - respecting copyright.”

Yes, companies do enjoy people creating fan work and engaging with their fans. But they only do so when it’s legal and legitimate.

You think the blue archive devs are going

"Noooo, they keep drawing lewd Asuna fanart"

No, they're fucking ecstatic that their game is getting so much attention.

You made a claim that speaks for the Blue Archives devs. I will concede this point if you have proof of them saying this. Until then, I will choose to believe in what they have said themselves.

NEXON America Guidelines for creators seeking to create User Generated Content ("UGC")

Commercial use of UGC is prohibited.

• You may not demand nor receive financial compensation for creating UGC.
• You may not sell, display, or otherwise provide access to UGC in return for monetary compensation.
• You may not submit your UGC to competitions that provide financial incentives, or that make commercial use of your submissions.

Notwithstanding the above, the following uses of UGC are permitted:

• You may collect advertising revenues or donations by uploading your UGC to content platforms (e.g., YouTube, Twitch, Facebook, etc.) that anyone can access for free. This includes UGC that makes direct use of game soundtracks.
• You may sell the game merchandise you created at events officially hosted by NEXON, or at events that permit the sale of such game merchandise. For more details, please refer to the homepage of the respective event.

To quote another big company.

“We’d love for your fan content to be created by fans, for fans. Therefore, you cannot do anything with our games for any commercial purpose, unless explicitly permitted otherwise below. We’re happy for you to accept reasonable donations in connection with your fan content, but you’re not allowed to make people pay for it or have it behind any sort of paywall (e.g. don’t make content only available to paid subscribers).”

Like I said, things such as a fandom are built around a group of like-minded people who share something in common. Yet here we are in a pirating thread with two groups of people each defending their actions. Let me share experiences from real and legitimate fan creators and you tell me if putting unlicensed stuff behind a Patreon paywall echoes the sentiment.

Very few fan creators make a profit financially from their work. Items are often sold cheaply with cost of printing, shipping, material, entry fees, travel tickets, posters/signs, and hotels to consider. The amount you would have to sell in order to break even is large. Overestimate, and you’re left with piles of fan work that no one wants and a bill you cannot pay. Only the largest circles can get global recognition and actually make a profit out of this. The vast majority of creators at these events, however, are in it for reasons other than the money. Perhaps as an expression of love for a hobby, gaining recognition for their talent, or just meeting other fans to socialize. Most works are exclusively available at conventions such as Comiket, where Doujinshi are sold as fan creations for fans and not in the commercial market for profit. Most legitimate creators work full time to earn a living while doing this as a hobby.

(For the record, I do use paywalled art, but I actually pay for it.)

The same can be said of fanart. Most fanart that I consider buying, is from a convention or a legit online illustrator who owns a license. The rest is generally free. It’s good you are willing to buy pay walled art. I respect it even. Although if someone who creates unlicensed stuff is buying from another unlicensed creator, I believe that is making the current problem worse and not better. This kind of thinking is a bit disrespectful to the people who do go through the formal procedures to create a real relationship with the IP holder. It’s unfair for people who do sell licensed fan art to see someone else doing the same thing without one.

 

[Geocomm]

I truly want to believe that the world is better than this. But if pay walling unlicensed fan work is really the new standard, then I fear it’s going to set a dangerous precedent. It is disrespectful to the whole fan scene. In fan game scenes, like ROM Hacking circles, most people agree that this is dangerous behavior that could destroy something that took decades to build. Imagine if something like Dragon Ball Z Abridged wasn’t a non-profit parody. Imagine if they only allowed the first season to be free and locked the rest behind a paywall. Imagine the amount of outrage and the legal shitstorm that would follow. There would be riots on the internet. If you need money to make a fan project, then maybe you shouldn’t be making a fan project. You should make your own original creation.

This is the majority of what I have to say on the matter. But what really matters is the voice of other people. I want to know what other people have to say. If the majority of people are truly okay with paywalls for unlicensed fan works that, by law should be free, then I’ve accepted the loss. I’ll learn to accept the future. If “This is the way it works”, if the fandom culture I grew up with is truly dead and gone, then I have no choice but to move on. To keep doing what you set your heart on… It’s a hard thing to do. But I have no regrets. I’m glad I got to bust a nut with everyone. But this isn’t what I wanted to help build.

The stuff I make, the whole turning sex into more of a game doesn't exist elsewhere. I know because I'd be watching it. Even in games it doesn't exist.

P.S. The raw arrogance alone in this statement has made me lose any respect I gave you earlier. Modesty and humility are virtues. “It doesn’t exist elsewhere. Not even in games.” Shove off.

 

[Frank6666]

I truly want to believe that the world is better than this. But if pay walling unlicensed fan work is really the new standard, then I fear it’s going to set a dangerous precedent. It is disrespectful to the whole fan scene. In fan game scenes, like ROM Hacking circles, most people agree that this is dangerous behavior that could destroy something that took decades to build. Imagine if something like Dragon Ball Z Abridged wasn’t a non-profit parody. Imagine if they only allowed the first season to be free and locked the rest behind a paywall. Imagine the amount of outrage and the legal shitstorm that would follow. There would be riots on the internet. If you need money to make a fan project, then maybe you shouldn’t be making a fan project. You should make your own original creation.

This is the majority of what I have to say on the matter. But what really matters is the voice of other people. I want to know what other people have to say. If the majority of people are truly okay with paywalls for unlicensed fan works that used to be free back in the days of early internet, then I’ve accepted the loss. I’ll learn to accept the future. If “This is the way it works”, if the fandom culture I grew up with is truly dead and gone, then I have no choice but to move on. To keep doing what you set your heart on… It’s a hard thing to do. But I have no regrets. I’m glad I got to bust a nut with everyone. But this isn’t what I wanted to help build.



P.S. The raw arrogance alone in this statement has made me lose any respect I gave you earlier. Modesty and humility are virtues. “It doesn’t exist elsewhere. Not even in games.” Shove off.

The thing is I wouldn't even care about it being pay walled if the content was amazing but all their stuff sucks utter donkey balls, it's rarely voiced, most of the image resolutions are never the same etc etc. It's good for a quick nut but it's not allah coming from the heavens and providing us with the cure for cancer earth shattering, first time asphyxia nut experience giving, that all the self pleasuring thieves sorry "creators" come here claiming it is.

Some of these brothermen are claiming it takes multiple WEEKS to write a porn script LOL and that it takes a month to make 1 or 2 of their videos, you have to understand the level they are at intellectually when they are that creatively impaired. Which is the number one reason why engaging them is pointless. On top of that they all seemed to have victim complexes and can't just own up to what they are doing and say yeah I'm a thief and ripping off suckers so what?

Instead they are coming to this thread like cockroaches, a niche fetish, on a niche website, in an even more niche thread. They actively went through the effort to come here and seek out opposition to themselves to whine about piracy and how they "do sooo much work!" and "help" everyone by using their art and how their life is so hard, moving a mouse around video editing software and downloading images from rule34 is hard work you know! All self pitying I'm a victim now subscribe to my patreon drivel whilst they actively commit crimes. That's number two reason not to engage them they want us to, they are seeking out detractors, the guy you replied to has literally said on this thread he's not coming back here and yet here he is.

They are all obviously deluded and have preconceived ideas of their self importance and see themselves as pioneers in killing the genre, arguing with them is like arguing with an Indian scammer pointless, in fact it's almost an identical experience. It's not stealing they are "helping", it's not paywalling it's "funding" they have a "unique" experience for us never found elsewhere definitely not guys! But to see it we just need your money first etc etc

 

[Blackfore_raven]

I'm going to derail this philosophical debate a little

Anyone have a link to Hentirella's Your Futa Girlfriend video? The first one, i accidentally deleted it, and it doesn't seem to exist anymore

 

[alas66]

does anyone have a new video SoxxieJOI with Ayaka

That video is fire, if someone can share it would be awesome

 

[reelobaruk]

EnjoiANIME:

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[reelobaruk]

Guys, contribute! Fuck paywalls

 

[wheely]

Why are people here writing essays over hentai slideshows

 

[limonaew]

Plz post voidjoi

Да бля, го я тебе 5 баксов скину, ты купишь на 2 ? У меня карты нет чтобы такое реализовать, могу только usdt

 

[zazahauler]

EnjoiANIME:

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Yo mans reelo could you update the other torrents, or were the videos there gotten from leaks?

 

[Geocomm]

Looks like one of the few companies that does let this copyright stuff fly is miHoYo. Think y’all Genshin and Honkai nerds are shit out of luck. Guess you guys better warm up that wallet for lewd pictures of animu bitches and twinks. Aint nothing I can do to help you there.

 

[Echo19381819]

Anyone has the link for EXP farming for asuna from voidjoi?

 

[reelobaruk]

Yo mans reelo could you update the other torrents, or were the videos there gotten from leaks?

These are all my releases. I can't update them, only create new ones, and I will not create new torrents because of a couple new videos. When the content is accumulated, then there will be new torrents

 

[Geocomm]

Why are people here writing essays over hentai slideshows

Honestly, I’ve been working on a long, stressful project. Needed my one-hour happy time ragefap. Came looking for porn, instead found a couple egotistical assholes complaining about their shitty illegal hentai slideshows getting pirated. The mixture of irony, no sleep, and semen retention made me snap.

I’m okay now. Finished my project and got some sleep. Experienced some really good, free, high-quality normal porn. Bust out one of the best nuts I’ve had in a while. Now that my head is clear, I realize how little I actually care about this. My takeaway here is that these anime JOI now make me limp knowing the people behind them. The positives are that my enjoyment of other forms of porn have increased dramatically. I’m going to peace out now. Y’all have a real good day now, y’hear?

 

[ShySubbiBoy]

Does someone have the Beginner CEI vids of IncubusJoi?

 

[sinicaleffect]

Honestly, I’ve been working on a long, stressful project. Needed my one-hour happy time ragefap. Came looking for porn, instead found a couple egotistical assholes complaining about their shitty illegal hentai slideshows getting pirated. The mixture of irony, no sleep, and semen retention made me snap.

So you spent all this time malding while writing this essay because of something I never said?

Find me one time I complained about my stuff being pirated.

But hey, if you want to talk about irony it's all of you coming in here calling the content shitty and then begging for handouts, let alone writing an essay about it.

P.S. The raw arrogance alone in this statement has made me lose any respect I gave you earlier. Modesty and humility are virtues. “It doesn’t exist elsewhere. Not even in games.” Shove off.

I have searched a lot for stuff to fap to and barely found anything close. So if I'm wrong I'd genuinely love for you to prove it. The literal only thing I've found is some NTR dice game.

 

[ArmSpaghetti]

im surprised sweetyjoi hasnt been bunkr'ed yet, arguably some of the best edited and most diverse joi's on the database
someone should like, get on that.

 

[5dslife]

Think komono is broken

 

[5dslife]

These are all my releases. I can't update them, only create new ones, and I will not create new torrents because of a couple new videos. When the content is accumulated, then there will be new torrents

Appreciate the bunkr updates though