Hmm... This is weird. I say it because I don't think ptypoe has the intention to NTR people. Someone posted a link to their Patreon page where they discussed feedback. Well, Dev, if you're reading and you want constructive feedback, here it is:
From what you said in the post, I assume that "women get similar rights in general to men" is a philosophical thing? Like it's imperative that you do this? If that's the case, I respect it, but that isn't good for building an audience. That is the main thing here. Your audience, or more accurate your potential audience. This is also something you should be worried about. When thinking of your audience there should also be an acknowledgement of media. This is a video game; genre is VN; a subgenre is adult; main story genre is fantasy; lead protagonist is male. These things are very important to pay attention to as well. Each one fragments your audience each time.
To put it simply, there are many things that limit audience, and you want to do your best NOT to limit your audience. I'm only giving my feedback because you asked for us to give feedback so here it is. I HATE the "women get similar rights in general to men (in a sexual sense)" take when talking about a game in this genre. I think it's safe to say that mostly everyone here has had a relationship or a partner or two, and that they understand that women are due and deserve the same respect as men. On top of that, if treating them the same in a game is what you're doing, I'm all for it
. However, in a game that focuses on your Main MALE character, it's not in a lot of us to hear about what the women are doing with other men, but much less SEEING it as well. This argument has been thrown around, and damn it if I don't wholeheartedly agree "you don't want your love interest/girlfriend to talk about other men she's slept/sleeping with" as I'm sure my girlfriend would NOT love to talk to me about my ex partners. The fact that the main character is male should drive your focus (in my humble opinion) to him, not the women when it comes to sexuality.
(this is a small subsection about Mr. Dots games) When you said that you like the way Mr. Dots does his games, I was a bit confused. Mr. Dots used those scenes to set the world a bit, he doesn't have the side characters have full sex on the side, save some rare exceptions. MC's exwife having sex with bitch boy and some characters masturbating. To be fair, I dropped the game around 3 updates before the end of Chapter 2. Then again, seeing the shit show that Chapter 3 became, I don't see how it's a good inspiration these days. But I digress. Switching perspectives puts A LOT of people off. Especially if the character has sex with another male. It's like, is fire hot? Yes. Is water wet? Yes!
About the scenes themselves: Why? All it does is drive away people that might want to play your game. I saw you comment that keeping the sexual encounters only to the MC is "boring" and I'm thinking to myself "??????????? It's YOUR story! Make it exciting!" If it makes you excited, add a scene where a clown takes a balloon blows it up in the female characters vagina while doing the two-step all the while smoking a cigarette on top of a dude sucking his dick if you want... as long as you give the player choice. I would rather NTR-like scenes NEVER happen. It's healthy for the game audience wise, but if you are hellbent on that split, at least make it optional. This site is shitty when it comes to tags, it's members can be very abrasive... BUT it's good if you need to be called out on what they hate and SMOTHER you in compliments if you do something they LIKE. Just go into a WVM and My New Family thread and see the love pouring out of it. If you want to see a shit show, I'd suggest you see RoyalCandy's Rejected No More thread. The point is, listen to the community. You don't have to do what they say, but at least listen and have them talk you off of some of the crazier ideas. Maybe I shouldn't have given you the Clown idea...
I think there are other ways to show women respect and equal attention without cucking the MC and making people pissed off. I get the Fairy thing is story related, okay, fine. You want an easy fix? Don't make the fairy's romancable. People can think of them as side characters that drive the story forward while treating us to some side action (when it's not some bullshit story reason sorry, but it's DUMB) as a stop gap to the REAL relationships. I'll say this, if you do add NTR to the sisters/family members, there will be a TRUE shit show for sure. Don't do it. My last advice.
I hope you understand that I didn't write this out of some hate, or vendetta against my virgin eyes for seeing NTR in my face, but as a person that wants to see games succeed. Feel free to ignore my comments, but this feedback is valuable.
Now, if someone can give this dev the speech on Avoidable vs Skippable, I'd appreciate it
Have a fantastic day! I wish you luck.
From what you said in the post, I assume that "women get similar rights in general to men" is a philosophical thing? Like it's imperative that you do this? If that's the case, I respect it, but that isn't good for building an audience. That is the main thing here. Your audience, or more accurate your potential audience. This is also something you should be worried about. When thinking of your audience there should also be an acknowledgement of media. This is a video game; genre is VN; a subgenre is adult; main story genre is fantasy; lead protagonist is male. These things are very important to pay attention to as well. Each one fragments your audience each time.
To put it simply, there are many things that limit audience, and you want to do your best NOT to limit your audience. I'm only giving my feedback because you asked for us to give feedback so here it is. I HATE the "women get similar rights in general to men (in a sexual sense)" take when talking about a game in this genre. I think it's safe to say that mostly everyone here has had a relationship or a partner or two, and that they understand that women are due and deserve the same respect as men. On top of that, if treating them the same in a game is what you're doing, I'm all for it
. However, in a game that focuses on your Main MALE character, it's not in a lot of us to hear about what the women are doing with other men, but much less SEEING it as well. This argument has been thrown around, and damn it if I don't wholeheartedly agree "you don't want your love interest/girlfriend to talk about other men she's slept/sleeping with" as I'm sure my girlfriend would NOT love to talk to me about my ex partners. The fact that the main character is male should drive your focus (in my humble opinion) to him, not the women when it comes to sexuality.(this is a small subsection about Mr. Dots games) When you said that you like the way Mr. Dots does his games, I was a bit confused. Mr. Dots used those scenes to set the world a bit, he doesn't have the side characters have full sex on the side, save some rare exceptions. MC's exwife having sex with bitch boy and some characters masturbating. To be fair, I dropped the game around 3 updates before the end of Chapter 2. Then again, seeing the shit show that Chapter 3 became, I don't see how it's a good inspiration these days. But I digress. Switching perspectives puts A LOT of people off. Especially if the character has sex with another male. It's like, is fire hot? Yes. Is water wet? Yes!
About the scenes themselves: Why? All it does is drive away people that might want to play your game. I saw you comment that keeping the sexual encounters only to the MC is "boring" and I'm thinking to myself "??????????? It's YOUR story! Make it exciting!" If it makes you excited, add a scene where a clown takes a balloon blows it up in the female characters vagina while doing the two-step all the while smoking a cigarette on top of a dude sucking his dick if you want... as long as you give the player choice. I would rather NTR-like scenes NEVER happen. It's healthy for the game audience wise, but if you are hellbent on that split, at least make it optional. This site is shitty when it comes to tags, it's members can be very abrasive... BUT it's good if you need to be called out on what they hate and SMOTHER you in compliments if you do something they LIKE. Just go into a WVM and My New Family thread and see the love pouring out of it. If you want to see a shit show, I'd suggest you see RoyalCandy's Rejected No More thread. The point is, listen to the community. You don't have to do what they say, but at least listen and have them talk you off of some of the crazier ideas. Maybe I shouldn't have given you the Clown idea...
I think there are other ways to show women respect and equal attention without cucking the MC and making people pissed off. I get the Fairy thing is story related, okay, fine. You want an easy fix? Don't make the fairy's romancable. People can think of them as side characters that drive the story forward while treating us to some side action (when it's not some bullshit story reason
sorry, but it's DUMB) as a stop gap to the REAL relationships. I'll say this, if you do add NTR to the sisters/family members, there will be a TRUE shit show for sure. Don't do it. My last advice.I hope you understand that I didn't write this out of some hate, or vendetta against my virgin eyes for seeing NTR in my face, but as a person that wants to see games succeed. Feel free to ignore my comments, but this feedback is valuable.
Now, if someone can give this dev the speech on Avoidable vs Skippable, I'd appreciate it
Have a fantastic day! I wish you luck.
