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Bonercat

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eh considering riala objective at that time was capturing simon the chance for them to slip out exist at least, and simon has deal with riala for multiple time and i vaguely remember theres a hint that simon are pretty slippery to escape riala so i think he did have some experience to make escape plan against riala though i am pretty sure they encounter mostly in open field base on their conversation due to the war, outside of simon have train to resist that magic at least so he can at least carry one of them (hopefully he chose altina since as you mention hero tend to die if touch wrongly and probably refuse to run anyway, hence even i dont consider simon and altina sacrifice themselves to save the hero even in game the hero end up become the sacrificial meat shield for some of the party), compare to the castle one which i am pretty sure i remember right that the trap was the middle gate literally locked after they enter with such single narrow path no hole or crack to open between them dont help that they spare the succubus to get betrayed by them later hence cant escape, which is surprising to me considering simon past life and action against the bartender, not even arguing to not spare them or keeping an eye on them or bind them, regarding the cave true, though the cave did have labyrinthine part to it and you can block their path by moving the boulder around to get some time or lock them with such boulder, sure sure riala can teleport but it still give them time and blind spot where they are now beside time was not on riala side with fickle incubus king, also hopefully the bandit make it obvious (either the lack of it or make some resistance or ruckus) since the cave did have the bandit too also varia with her extreme luck was around and they have explosive.

btw i kinda vaguely remember riala can detect simon hence she show up occasionally in simon camp during simon attempt, but i cant remember the reason so maybe you can help to fresh up my memory about it, and if the reason was because simon have the shard, then at least i can make excuse that riala cant detect simon before that even if she have mole in the church and forest are huge with many place to hide to precisely pin point where simon are at that location despite knowing he is in the forest.

i guess i dont reach that part yet, as i mention so far as i saw i dont see one or i dont remember or missing that occur, though you did mention the person die young though because he get sucked dry, i think it still a better fate than the female one which shown to last pretty long to the point their mind are broken and they need to bear child themselves.
 
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Goi

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eh considering riala objective at that time was capturing simon the chance for them to slip out exist at least, and simon has deal with riala for multiple time and i vaguely remember theres a hint that simon are pretty slippery to escape riala so i think he did have some experience to make escape plan against riala though i am pretty sure they encounter mostly in open field base on their conversation due to the war, outside of simon have train to resist that magic at least so he can at least carry one of them (hopefully he chose altina since as you mention hero tend to die if touch wrongly and probably refuse to run anyway, hence even i dont consider simon and altina sacrifice themselves to save the hero even in game the hero end up become the sacrificial meat shield for some of the party), compare to the castle one which i am pretty sure i remember right that the trap was the middle gate literally locked after they enter with such single narrow path no hole or crack to open between them dont help that they spare the succubus to get betrayed by them later hence cant escape, which is surprising to me considering simon past life and action against the bartender, not even arguing to not spare them or keeping an eye on them or bind them, regarding the cave true, though the cave did have labyrinthine part to it and you can block their path by moving the boulder around to get some time or lock them with such boulder, sure sure riala can teleport but it still give them time and blind spot where they are now beside time was not on riala side with fickle incubus king, also hopefully the bandit make it obvious (either the lack of it or make some resistance or ruckus) since the cave did have the bandit too also varia with her extreme luck was around and they have explosive.

btw i kinda vaguely remember riala can detect simon hence she show up occasionally in simon camp during simon attempt, but i cant remember the reason so maybe you can help to fresh up my memory about it, and if the reason was because simon have the shard, then at least i can make excuse that riala cant detect simon before that even if she have mole in the church and forest are huge with many place to hide to precisely pin point where simon are at that location despite knowing he is in the forest.

i guess i dont reach that part yet, as i mention so far as i saw i dont see one or i dont remember or missing that occur, though you did mention the person die young though because he get sucked dry, i think it still a better fate than the female one which shown to last pretty long to the point their mind are broken and they need to bear child themselves.
it takes basically no time at all, for her to capture in the forest of fortress, in fact it takes about the same in fact likely even less time in the forest.

also they would have 0 ideal Riala would be there before she traps them and then there is nothing they could do she could genuine fight the whole group of bandits and Simon group at once easily in fact it would be easier there because Riala would need to put in some effort to start with instead of just shut door though could easily just they pass through said boulders and then push them shut meaning no way back and have to go through her

Like all she needs is like a succubus under illusion and there is nothing they can do kind of like how Yara jumps the group only worse because you Know Riala, Hell Yara follows and ambushes them instantly taking out the chosen temporally and then despite being much weaker than Riala aka Yara traps them perfectly by herself.

It was years and simon thought the exact same thing that Alina went through would happen to him, Riala of course goes nah I want you we have thousands of mindless cocks

the guy fate is exactly the same only fate worse is if the Incubus king had her even if she would have died much sooner like all the other elves, female elves he had

she didn't really track the shard just kept tabs on him as he travelled, why it took her like a day to find him in the forest because he said he was heading in the other direction to the Knife. she might have also been doing a weird job at the time similar to how when she help telaport him to Megail location who she also tracked quickly while also looking for a giant chess set made of Feaces
 

Bonercat

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"it takes basically no time at all, for her to capture in the forest of fortress, in fact it takes about the same in fact likely even less time in the forest." can you elaborate why you make such claim? since pretty sure simon has deal with riala multiple time and he manage to escape from her, open field are huge after all hence the chance to slip past, and i dont expect everyone past through just to be clear. and agree on the cave one that one can be a booby trap still the bandit there have explosive though and varia are not normal.

so it never get explained how riala can track simon even till now? well cant argue much then, beside in previous argument other did mention and agree that illusion magic are poorly established.
 

TGJohn

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Jan 28, 2021
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I am at a point in the story where I am investing in both my HQ and the real investments in Chapter 4, whilst following Thosha's playthrough, this time making sure I don't screw nor miss anything.

I had 22,500 Pron per this section:
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All good there, from there on, followed everything to the letter and reached this amount of Pron:
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(Rich)

So I go to do the HQ upgrading and Real Investment section located here:
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I go ahead to do all of them in order, yet when I reach the Givini Tunnels section, I have 1,462,500 Pron and appear to be missing 50k.

Am I missing something? Are there some things I don't have to invest in at the moment at the section in the 3rd pic? I have no idea and would like any kind of advice between the 1st pic and 3rd pic, here's the link if that helps but not sure if it would ( ).

Please be kind to me here, any advice is very helpful, unfortunately, I think I overwritten a save of the first pic, but I do have a save of the Twisted space before meeting Alonon that shows the 22,500 Pron I still had from the first pic.

Once again, please be kind and any advice is very helpful, thank you.
 

manscout

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I am at a point in the story where I am investing in both my HQ and the real investments in Chapter 4, whilst following Thosha's playthrough, this time making sure I don't screw nor miss anything.

I had 22,500 Pron per this section:
View attachment 4161531

All good there, from there on, followed everything to the letter and reached this amount of Pron:
View attachment 4161539
(Rich)

So I go to do the HQ upgrading and Real Investment section located here:
View attachment 4161541

I go ahead to do all of them in order, yet when I reach the Givini Tunnels section, I have 1,462,500 Pron and appear to be missing 50k.

Am I missing something? Are there some things I don't have to invest in at the moment at the section in the 3rd pic? I have no idea and would like any kind of advice between the 1st pic and 3rd pic, here's the link if that helps but not sure if it would ( ).

Please be kind to me here, any advice is very helpful, unfortunately, I think I overwritten a save of the first pic, but I do have a save of the Twisted space before meeting Alonon that shows the 22,500 Pron I still had from the first pic.

Once again, please be kind and any advice is very helpful, thank you.
You probably made a mistake somewhere that made you miss New Givini score, which made your returns from the Givini Merchant Orc be 50k lower.

Thosha uploads saves so you can just download one of his to put yourself back in sync with his walkthrough. If you want to keep your save you could probably cheat New Givini score before talking with Alonon and it might work, assuming whatever was different only affected New Givini score and nothing else important.

If you are going to edit your save, New Givini score is variable 97 and I think it should be at 39 score (or was it 29?) before you talk to Alonon. Try 39 first, if it gives you the right amount then all good, if it gives you 50k more than expected then it was supposed to be 29.
 

TGJohn

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Jan 28, 2021
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You probably made a mistake somewhere that made you miss New Givini score, which made your returns from the Givini Merchant Orc be 50k lower.

If you are going to edit your save, New Givini score is variable 97 and I think it should be at 39 score (or was it 29?) before you talk to Alonon. Try 39 first, if it gives you the right amount then all good, if it gives you 50k more than expected then it was supposed to be 29.
Was it something I missed in New Givini? Could it have possible be something to do with this blue flame in the walkthrough? If so, I couldn't find it.

If not, maybe I will do the cheat there, somehow, I don't know how as I have sooooooo many saves, but I'll try figure it out.
 

Goi

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"it takes basically no time at all, for her to capture in the forest of fortress, in fact it takes about the same in fact likely even less time in the forest." can you elaborate why you make such claim? since pretty sure simon has deal with riala multiple time and he manage to escape from her, open field are huge after all hence the chance to slip past, and i dont expect everyone past through just to be clear. and agree on the cave one that one can be a booby trap still the bandit there have explosive though and varia are not normal.

so it never get explained how Riala can track Simon even till now? well cant argue much then, beside in previous argument other did mention and agree that illusion magic are poorly established.
the bandits are literally nothing even with explosives. they would suffer the same as the solders guarding the bridge when Riala is made weaker by being mindbroken and just brute forcing everything where she just kills the entire group there with one spell

thing is a lot of the time Simon dealt with Riala he had Wendis and a lot of other backup and was during the war so he would have much better backup. there is a reason his reaction to her showing up is sacrifice him and Alaina life so the chosen has a chance to get away because that was there only hope they had for anyone to live through that.
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It is a lot easier for her to find them and trap them in a forest and they would have 0 reason to be on the lookout for such things, Like they are prepped to deal with bandits and such and then surprised multiple elite succubus surround them or trap in a cave or clearing either through barrier or just knocking things down, like it requires a bit more effort than close door and jump with 3 elites but does not need much more.

also ranged in open field is going and all succubus is ranged fighters


she tracks Simon same way she tracks Megail to the warehouse magic means plus having some spies in the church that Simon works out with no one knowing to start with. she knows where and when he is going to be somewhere, Also Yhilian and Ardford are basically the only real options for Simon to start building power from so since she is teleporting around at that point because she has to find a chessboard she can just keep track of him.


Really just the fact she can teleport and has an unnamed amount of spies alone makes avoiding her difficult)
 
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manscout

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Was it something I missed in New Givini? Could it have possible be something to do with this blue flame in the walkthrough? If so, I couldn't find it.

If not, maybe I will do the cheat there, somehow, I don't know how as I have sooooooo many saves, but I'll try figure it out.
I can't possibly know what you missed exactly, I'm already making an educated guess at best in saying the problem was new givini score because it is the most likely culprit for missing exactly 50k ProN at that exact point.

The blue flame is just a random mob that I don't think impacts anything outside of giving you exp, but also it shouldn't be hard to find, after you finish the ballroom event you just talk with the king in the throne room and leave the town into the regional map. I don't think it has any other conditions tied to spawning it.
 

FakeTemplar

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Thosha uploads saves so you can just download one of his to put yourself back in sync with his walkthrough.
Just a warning, I don't know if Thosha saves are updated for the latest version, but if it isn't then loading an old save can make you miss new skills added in 0.75. The earliest this can happen is in Simon's route on chapter 2 (he learns Command when training with the Empress)
 

Mr. Cofman

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Aint hating it, just stating that the game is crap from the glace u can take on this site
Judging a game only by taking a glance is quite unfair, but I made the same mistake in the past, thinking that Black Souls is just some dumb Jrpg porn game. It requires some brain to completely enjoy it.

By the way, if you don't like a glance of Black Souls so much, what do you like then?
 
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Fulminato

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Public release:

TLS 0.76.3

New update is public!
Download*:
Mirror*:
RTP:

*Requires to be installed. If you don't know what that means, use the RTP link.

This one wraps up a ton of long-running pieces, from Yarra's harem list to the base library to the very last Shining Sword. I also hope it kills off the crashes some players were having with the conversation log. In general, the new content is focused on final combat challenges, but this is also a major polish update.

Please enjoy! Next up is the epilogue, which will be another relatively small update. I'm also juggling past improvements and new features, though, so we'll see how the update shakes out.
 
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TLS 0.76.3, 0.76.2, 0.76.1 & 0.76.0 changelog:

TLS 0.76.3 [10/25/24]
- Added new rewards to the final optional dungeon, including RP and a Shining Sword.
- Final touch-up.

TLS 0.76.2 [10/23/24]
- Many new interactions added for the new harem member.
- Minor balance and fixes.

TLS 0.76.1 [10/20/24]
- No real bugs, for once, but still good to put out an improved build.
- Final harem member now has dialogue busts.
- Minor additions to the final optional dungeon.
- Minor balance tweaks.

TLS 0.76.0 [10/18/24]
- Final optional dungeon and last combat challenges.
- Final harem member with attached sex scene.
- Final base books and unique equipment.
- Minor changes to final battle due to optional dungeon.
- LUK has been slightly rebalanced, notably no longer adding to enemy evasion.
- Improvements and bugfixes to the dialogue busts, thanks to Rachnera and Lamsey.
- Improvements and bugfixes to new skills thanks to Lord Forte.
- Three new illustrated scenes: Orilise x Altina, Rescued Erosians, Robin Transformation
 

Bonercat

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the bandits are literally nothing even with explosives. they would suffer the same as the solders guarding the bridge when Riala is made weaker by being mindbroken and just brute forcing everything where she just kills the entire group there with one spell

thing is a lot of the time Simon dealt with Riala he had Wendis and a lot of other backup and was during the war so he would have much better backup. there is a reason his reaction to her showing up is sacrifice him and Alaina life so the chosen has a chance to get away because that was there only hope they had for anyone to live through that.
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It is a lot easier for her to find them and trap them in a forest and they would have 0 reason to be on the lookout for such things, Like they are prepped to deal with bandits and such and then surprised multiple elite succubus surround them or trap in a cave or clearing either through barrier or just knocking things down, like it requires a bit more effort than close door and jump with 3 elites but does not need much more.

also ranged in open field is going and all succubus is ranged fighters


she tracks Simon same way she tracks Megail to the warehouse magic means plus having some spies in the church that Simon works out with no one knowing to start with. she knows where and when he is going to be somewhere, Also Yhilian and Ardford are basically the only real options for Simon to start building power from so since she is teleporting around at that point because she has to find a chessboard she can just keep track of him.


Really just the fact she can teleport and has an unnamed amount of spies alone makes avoiding her difficult)
if it like you claim, riala should have just pop up right in the beginning and thrash them since the intro literally showing simon and altina already waiting the hero there for a while yet she choose to wait inside the fortress, although it was openfield you forgot it was forest field not grassfield it have obstructive object like tree to take cover or hide not really a good field for range attack, beside riala objective was capturing simon without incubus king or his secretary iris noticing and not total obliteration of the party outside of simon can die in the process so she need to restrain her power too, hence i say the other have better chance to slip out since riala focus was capturing simon, also time actually not on her side and yet again she choose to wait an ambush inside the castle an enclosed cage. also i remember riala mention she only have two elite incubus at hand who agree with her outside of the whitered fortress one and she need to held her power to only teleport that two and she also have to limit teleporting to often outside of direction the incubus king order her to, otherwise it can alert the incubus king that something amiss, and so now i doubt she can cover much field of the forest, also you underestimate the number of bandit lead by varia with lots of hidden explosive to much since she need to be disquiet or restrain her power to not make the incubus king or his secretary iris notice while also limited in number, i think they do have chance, though mind you i dont expect they survive without casualty or survive at all but they still quite organize at that time, beside explosive are loud too. also riala are not invincible as much as group of incubus king even fear a direct explosion impact (granted the explosion are more powerful than varia one), otherwise she can just storm simon house or teleport there right away despite yarra can do just fine with her illusion magic (though she did accompanied by simon to thwart a suspicion or guard asking checkup question) but again other did mention illusion magic are bonker and poorly established.
 

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Does anyone have any tactics to use against the Inevitable Eliminator? It's programed at 25%, 50% and 75% damage to "entangle" a random ally, putting them in time out. Not being targeted or damaged. That last team member gets eliminated and then everyone dies. There is no way to cure it and you can't do enough damage to kill it. You can't substitute an ally like you could in the Lamia fight, you can't poison, stun, silence or blind it.
I don't know what to do in this gimmick fight. Riala says the magic is almost impossible to block but you need to find a way to work despite this but I've got no items that stop the effect. Focus is also bullshit in doing 3k damage over 3 attacks, pretty much killing the last person left.

Edit: The Entangle effect failed on Varia while she was under Channeled Luck. Maybe that will help. I used Uyae, Hilstara, Varia and Carina and somehow got past it. Lilith makes a comment about chaotic random battles, so maybe you have to use her somehow.
 
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Goi

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It is weak to being debuffed which reduces the damage and makes it take more damage, also it does it in order of offensive capabilities

a suggested team is Varia, Nalili, Robin, Uyae

you can poison but very low chance like it has 25% resistance
 

Deepsea

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It is weak to being debuffed which reduces the damage and makes it take more damage, also it does it in order of offensive capabilities
The Eliminator, this guy. Believe me when I say I tried debuffs from Aka and Vhala. They don't work. I only got lucky with Varia still dealing damage and Carina being left to heal.
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Another thing. In order to unlock the last harem member, Sierra put in various anti-cheat functions otherwise you only get the victory sword. I got the sword from the coffin, does that mean I miss the last person cause I cheated in my saves?
 
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Goi

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It literally has double the normal debuff chance, 100% is normal, lower means less effective, Higher is more effective, though it does have a high luck stat of 999 so maybe try having a higher luck aka same reason Varia was able to doge the 100% Restrict though the Lucky state which has the effect of 200% Luck

Yes if you have not gotten them legit(or at least did the things to get them even if the previous anti cheat stop you can cheat the item in and it will work) aka open chest in cache and so on. that is checked when you enter the island
are the other requirements aka do not have over 300,000 Sx or so
Sx < 300,000: Not Cheat to many Sx
ProN < 10,000,000: Not Cheat to many ProN
Simon Level < 110: Not Cheat Simon Level (max legit ~ 105/106)
Shining Swords in Inventary < 52: |Not Cheat to many Shining Sword
Super Sword NOT in Inventary: Not Obtained the Last Shining Sword reward before was legit reach 50 swords


so yeah can't get them now due to that if you have a save before it can correct most of it easily enough, Victory sword is basically the alt reward instead of final challenge and reward of final party member
 
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I actually did it. Okay so I extracted the game, found the variables for cheat detection and made them 0 instead. I've uploaded it .
Play the game normally, defeat all the bosses and SAVE before entering the crypt. Load your save with this version, place the 5 incubus king items and you should summon the last harem member, fight, save after, then transfer the save back.
I've included my Save 81 which is before this. Just load that up, summon and save after then transfer back to the public release and you should have her.
I've only tested this myself so I don't know if it'll work for you. I also don't know if this'll corrupt a save, hence why I included save 81.

I'm planning on restarting TLS eventually but I'm not tossing my current 157 hour playthrough just because Sierra put in a roadblock for me.

Also including Save 82 which is my save after her battle. The trigger is baked into the map, not the save so using 81 in the public release will only get you the Victory Sword.
 
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Samshit

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Do you have any sex scene with the last Harem member ? Can't find any, where is she anyway ? I unlocked several optionnal dialogue on your save but no place to find her properly.

Anyway, thanks for the hack file and save !
 

Goi

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she is in the tower part of your headquarters and need to do a bunch of her scenes around the open world to unlock the sex scene
 
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