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zoyle

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I was unaware of that tool. I have been using Thosha's walkthrough for the most part throughout the game. A pin on the main post would be most helpful for newcomers!
EDIT: for peeps too uninterested to brows all 400+ forum pages for any info (or using the search bar)

The walkthrough is good but I always wanted to be able to customize exactly which outcomes I got, even though they ended up pretty close to what he chose in the walkthrough. Circa 2021 I had basically created something similar for myself in excel that went up through Eustrin Final, when I found Fulminato's tool which has the advantage of me being able to save my playthrough choices and then load them into the tool later when there are updates (i've generally come back to TLS every 12-18 months as content is added). This last section has been difficult because all the additions are in equivalent time (eg the final endgame section), so its impossible to have a 'final' plan for how to do the last couple investment cycles, because its not clear which upgrades and threshholds will be necessary in full yet (and surely they will also be relevant to the ending as well).

My last playthrough was in 63.3, so I've got a nice chunk of new stuff to do now. I prefer to do it in big chunks than come back and do 30-60m of play every update, especially now that all the events are in the same 'time block' and its easier to make choices between what order/what resources to invest in them when you know what all the options are.
 

zoyle

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the next update should add the ending. there is some other content pending (for example optional high difficult endgame dungeon)



after ten years sticking with the story made before start the developing i think the dev had earned some good faith about that
TLS clearly benefits a lot from the fact that its creator is also an author

I have not been tracking Sierra's Patreon or the like, is it confirmed that the *next* update will add the finale? If so, I might wait until then to plan out that whole final free period.
 

LScr

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Going by the roadmap, now that the harem quests are done, there should be five more major updates: Final Battle I, Final Battle II, Final Optional Dungeon (where we finally get the mystery last harem member that no one has been able to guess), Epilogue, and Postgame.
 

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Going by the roadmap, now that the harem quests are done, there should be five more major updates: Final Battle I, Final Battle II, Final Optional Dungeon (where we finally get the mystery last harem member that no one has been able to guess), Epilogue, and Postgame.
Good (?) news: I've decided against splitting the final battle into two updates. When TLS 0.74.0 releases, it will be an extra large update resolving the entire battle - the majority of plot threads, the "end of chapter" card, and even one ending of the game

in the last weekly patreon update
 

Lilium Steele

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Do you guys use saves from previous patches to continue playing?
Am I the only weirdo here who can't resist playing this game from the start each damn time?
 
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Jennnnnyyyyy

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Do you guys use saves from previous patches to continue playing?
Am I the only weirdo here who can't resist playing this game from the start each damn time?
Saves can break (happens) when a new version drops (mainly due to maps and scripts changing, sometimes you save in position X, Y, Z and then the map changes and now ya stuck in the wall or smth) so starting a new playthrough is not that uncommon (it does apply to a new playthrough every FEW versions like 1.0 -> 2.0 and so on, each version seems more extreme)

I also start a new save each time the game gets updated (and i actually bother to update it ._.) and i got over 600mb of save files (dont ask) so no, ya aint the only weirdo here. ur just one of em...
 
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Grufix

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Saves can break (happens) when a new version drops (mainly due to maps and scripts changing, sometimes you save in position X, Y, Z and then the map changes and now ya stuck in the wall or smth) so starting a new playthrough is not that uncommon (it does apply to a new playthrough every FEW versions like 1.0 -> 2.0 and so on, each version seems more extreme)

I also start a new save each time the game gets updated (and i actually bother to update it ._.) and i got over 600mb of save files (dont ask) so no, ya aint the only weirdo here. ur just one of em...
I had to restart a couple of times, because I screwed up some decisions or made wrong investments. But restarting each time for a new update? That's too much for me because Yarra's section in Chapter 2, specifically the Butterfly Hunt on a timer requires multiple reloads for me to get it perfectly and the RPGM engine does not lend it self to be enjoyable or control very well for that section. I have to keep a hard separate save after completing it, to not be stuck on that section.
 

Daken9

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Gotta say, started a new game after coming back to it and feeling bad about forgetting about half the story, and goddamn if i wish i'd forgotten all about Kalant and didn't just watch redeem himself in Ardford. A game with him as the protagonist was flashing into my mind all throughout the false start, and then enter Simon :KEK: Oh well, at least the number porn gonna be good.
 

ixcez

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Finishing up my save before the final battle and was just wondering if I missed something, tried to check the wiki but couldn't find much info there.

Think I've made all the unique items/equipments for everyone but I got 1 extra true gold + arcane formation in my inventory but I'm guessing their just extra or something? It was also mentioned, if I understood it right, that the pure divinity made from shining sword was an item for Carina to make some kind of equipment but I couldn't find anything about what to do with it, so I'm guessing it's either for the final battle or not implemented yet?

Also any clues on who the last harem member, the so called secret optional one, is? It would be weird if a new character was just introduced out of the blue and instead my guess is that it is probably Ulrissa since she has already interacted a lot with the gang and she is already stationed at the HQ. However, it's also possible that it might be Hester seeing as there was a bunch of hidden checks for making peace with her and the Ivalans that far as I know hasn't been used yet, she'd probably have become young or something while working to create the perfect goddess or perhaps she will have decided to become it instead. Would be kinda weird if it was Vhala since it's on the other tab where there are only goddesses and demons at the moment.

I had to restart a couple of times, because I screwed up some decisions or made wrong investments. But restarting each time for a new update? That's too much for me because Yarra's section in Chapter 2, specifically the Butterfly Hunt on a timer requires multiple reloads for me to get it perfectly and the RPGM engine does not lend it self to be enjoyable or control very well for that section. I have to keep a hard separate save after completing it, to not be stuck on that section.
Yeah I agree, there are also parts where I would just have no idea what I was doing wrong just getting one-hit killed by enemies at times even when I tried to have the highest lvls and gear, like getting instantly killed in liliths dungeon because you fight some enemies with high stats. It also takes some 40-50 hours at least to get to the latest part if you wanna do everything and thats when you know what to do and don't die much or have to reload a lot.

Thankfully there are saves for pretty much every part of the game if you wanna start at certain sections.


Gotta say, started a new game after coming back to it and feeling bad about forgetting about half the story, and goddamn if i wish i'd forgotten all about Kalant and didn't just watch redeem himself in Ardford. A game with him as the protagonist was flashing into my mind all throughout the false start, and then enter Simon :KEK: Oh well, at least the number porn gonna be good.
To be honest Kalant as an MC with the chosen powers at start and struggling with it and then gaining an incubus shard would make for a decent MC. Simon is not the best MC in my mind and instead it's mostly the harem and it's members who carry the story. Mostly because Simon is the stoic and often silent MC who is always serious when he speaks or does anything. Which works for a while but with the games length and how he acts most if not all the time it makes me wonder.
 
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LScr

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Also any clues on who the last harem member, the so called secret optional one, is? It would be weird if a new character was just introduced out of the blue and instead my guess is that it is probably Ulrissa since she has already interacted a lot with the gang and she is already stationed at the HQ. However, it's also possible that it might be Hester seeing as there was a bunch of hidden checks for making peace with her and the Ivalans that far as I know hasn't been used yet, she'd probably have become young or something while working to create the perfect goddess or perhaps she will have decided to become it instead. Would be kinda weird if it was Vhala since it's on the other tab where there are only goddesses and demons at the moment.
The fact that it's on the goddess tab is a clue in and of itself, and I believe Sierra has stated that this individual has been mentioned in the past, but only briefly. My best guess at this point is that it's going to be another personification of a major Tower force, like Lilith is of chaos--perhaps Death (who has a statue in the Eustrin mausoleum) or Destiny.

I'm probably way off, though.
 

Daken9

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To be honest Kalant as an MC with the chosen powers at start and struggling with it and then gaining an incubus shard would make for a decent MC. Simon is not the best MC in my mind and instead it's mostly the harem and it's members who carry the story. Mostly because Simon is the stoic and often silent MC who is always serious when he speaks or does anything. Which works for a while but with the games length and how he acts most if not all the time it makes me wonder.
Simon would've still been been the mastermind in my mind, teaching 'Kalant' how to be actually effective if not a decent person, but yeah.

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Like come on. Experienced old guy yadda yadda but at least a full beard and shaggier hair to make it a competion:KEK:
 

ixcez

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The fact that it's on the goddess tab is a clue in and of itself, and I believe Sierra has stated that this individual has been mentioned in the past, but only briefly. My best guess at this point is that it's going to be another personification of a major Tower force, like Lilith is of chaos--perhaps Death (who has a statue in the Eustrin mausoleum) or Destiny.

I'm probably way off, though.
Nah your probably right seeing as if I remember right it was mentioned that the last harem member will appear in the last dungeon. Which was why I thought about Hester since my guess is that there will be a big fight between forces in the final battle then the optional dungeon might mean going after Hester in the dungeon. So maybe in the final battle depending on choices Hester becomes a goddess or creates a new goddess and the final dungeon is about confronting her or this new goddess.

But it would also make sense if Death or Destiny was in it, especially Destiny because of Varia and how there has been talks about how the world is being governed by it's rules / "destiny" so to prevent stuff from happening again or control the tower better it would sense to confront destiny if the story goes in the direction that destiny for instance is what is causing a lot of the stuff.

Could also make sense with them going deep diving into the towers core when they follow Hester + Anak which is what their doing to control the world and they find out that at it's core there is some kind of goddess or entity in charge or something.

Ulrissa as I mentioned is "sort of" part of the harem already in my mind and she is supossedly no longer a mortal and more of a tower entity, though her immortality comes mainly from slowing down time affecting her to nothing. We also don't know all that much about her agendas so it could also make sense that she somehow does something during the final battle or after it that makes us go after her in the dungeon.


Simon would've still been been the mastermind in my mind, teaching 'Kalant' how to be actually effective if not a decent person, but yeah.

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Like come on. Experienced old guy yadda yadda but at least a full beard and shaggier hair to make it a competion:KEK:
Yeah I agree, Simon is pretty much the typical sensei/teacher/boss or whatever that helps or guides the MC in most stories, games or animes, heck could even be their idol or goal.

My personal take is that Yarra is sort of the deuteragonist in the story or heck at times it feels like Simon is the deuteragonist while Yarra is the MC. There is a very big cast in the game and for most characters SL has tried to flesh them out and give them space. Which in turn means less space and time for the MC it's just that while Simon has a troubled past and all that the other characters are for the most part more interesting to me.

Just to make it clear I like Simon but even then he feels more like a side character for a lot of the time even though he's the MC, though this is just my personal opinion on the matter.
 

ixcez

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Also anyone know how to fill the last three bookcases? Kinda hurting my OCD to not have all the HQ stuff finished.

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Jennnnnyyyyy

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Also anyone know how to fill the last three bookcases? Kinda hurting my OCD to not have all the HQ stuff finished.

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They are either for the upcoming update as they are marked as "???" in switches OR i am fucking stupid and you can get them from some war.
How do i know they are spoils of war?
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The other one (on the right) just says "These are books"

If you need to have em in the game they are switches "2350 and 2351"
 

Blizzard99

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Completed the game after almost a year since I began playing it. Wow- I feel like TLS has world building that can be seen in best selling fantasy books. It's a little complex (gave up playing without the WT's help halfway) but incredibly well-written. Eagerly waiting for the final update.

With regards to the final Harem member: I suspect that it's going to be a honorary position for Ulrissa, after some sacrifice she undergoes to save the world in the Final Battle.
 
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