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hathios

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The game is broken.
I follw the walkthrough to the letter and I should get 170k in Megail's Route instead I read 70k.
I used a safes from Grim8P and this looks good.
But restarting completely and reread averything.
 
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Fulminato

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The game is broken.
I follw the walkthrough to the letter and I should get 170k in Megail's Route instead I read 70k.
I used a safes from Grim8P and this looks good.
But restarting completely and reread averything.
yea, the game is broken, you are the first after thousands of player to discover a discrepancy no one even talked about.
probablility of a you problem and not a game problem? very, very high.
 
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Because I haven't seen the game before and started playing it.
when someone has a problem they should first search for other report of the same (o very similar) bug, if the research find nothing the probability of them making a mistake and not the game has a probelm is very, very, very high. expecially for a game in development for more then a decade.
 
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English is not my native language, so correct me if I'm wrong, but you're accusing me of complaining for no reason because I'm afraid of criticism ?
They are accusing you of complaining without proof. Since it's a very subjective issue, I assume they want you to mention specific moments in the latter half of the game that you disliked.

But I don't know what their point is, since they can't argue against an opinion. Maybe they just want more elaborate posts before they can feel like an opinion is valid?
 
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They are accusing you of complaining without proof. Since it's a very subjective issue, I assume they want you to mention specific moments in the latter half of the game that you disliked.

But I don't know what their point is, since they can't argue against an opinion. Maybe they just want more elaborate posts before they can feel like an opinion is valid?
the concept of "it's my opinion, you cannot say anything about" irritate me a lot.
an opinion, just for be an opinion isn't warrant any respect. there are a lot of bad, stupid and wrong opinions out there.
once someone substantiate their opinion enough to survive a superficial scrutiny one can start talk about it.
because "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"
 
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Dmonk66

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Is anyone else disapointed that we didn't get a lamia to join the harem, or is it just me? In my opinion, I feel that they didn't get enough love in this game. I mean there were only two sex scenes with them, and with all the work that goes into getting them equal rights with other succubi you would think at least one would join the harem. On a side note, I don't think this game is technically finished. On the main story side of things, yes the game is complete. However, there are some unfinished sex scenes still in the game (not to mention the possible artwork for said sex scenes).
 

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Is anyone else disapointed that we didn't get a lamia to join the harem, or is it just me? In my opinion, I feel that they didn't get enough love in this game. I mean there were only two sex scenes with them, and with all the work that goes into getting them equal rights with other succubi you would think at least one would join the harem. On a side note, I don't think this game is technically finished. On the main story side of things, yes the game is complete. However, there are some unfinished sex scenes still in the game (not to mention the possible artwork for said sex scenes).
budget constrain. the dev repetetly said to have wanted add a lamia in the harem but when the game started the budget was literally zero, and when the project make enough money for a commission of that level the story was advanced to a point to make it very, very difficult to have added a lamia charater.
 
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Hey so I'm in the Split the Party part of Chapter 2 and I've hit a bit of a snag.

I've been following this walkthrough more or less to the letter...

And i just started the Megail Route but for some freaking reason

Exit the building. Enter the Yhilin Bank in the northeast corner. Interact with the closest teller. He should say "Profits are higher than expected due to Yhilin's unusually good economic conditions

I'm in the Ari-Yhilina Bank and the guy didn't give me 10k ProN, I just got 5k and its... It's bothering me.

I'm short 5k! (My total is 165k)

I've shared my last three save files if anyone can tell what i did wrong... Maybe someone can tell me how to fix it or even better share a save file with the correct steps since i really dont wanna backtrack if i can help it...
 

Ner0nitas

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I have a question about the start of Chapter 2 (I'm in Chapter 4 already, so it's pure interest).

It's stated that you are only allowed to interact once with the cave (1000Sx, Fight or nothing).
So there is some sort of "XX Days Passed" system in play, and you shouldn't waste time.
Well, since the game is so cryptic, I interacted with the cave for basically a year to pass.

What would have been different if you didn't take too long?
I know there is one sub-mission in a quest that you always fail... I think something like "Don't attract too much attention" or so, but you always get caught in the end.

So, what do these days do/change?
 

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I have a question about the start of Chapter 2 (I'm in Chapter 4 already, so it's pure interest).

It's stated that you are only allowed to interact once with the cave (1000Sx, Fight or nothing).
So there is some sort of "XX Days Passed" system in play, and you shouldn't waste time.
Well, since the game is so cryptic, I interacted with the cave for basically a year to pass.

What would have been different if you didn't take too long?
I know there is one sub-mission in a quest that you always fail... I think something like "Don't attract too much attention" or so, but you always get caught in the end.

So, what do these days do/change?
The only changes are to two variables, according to the calculator: Social and Economy, so the faster you do this section, the more points you get on those. Why, exactly? Beats me, I have no idea. I've gave a thought once that maybe it's because the group shows high competence by doing everything they planned without taking too long.

You also get 1 point in religion by doing this section as fast as possible.
 
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The only changes are to two variables, according to the calculator: Social and Economy, so the faster you do this section, the more points you get on those. Why, exactly? Beats me, I have no idea. I've gave a thought once that maybe it's because the group shows high competence by doing everything they planned without taking too long.

You also get 1 point in religion by doing this section as fast as possible.
Thanks!
Yeah, it seems kinda random.
Maybe you get this 1 Religion point because people think you are a god, after showing that much speed.
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hey y'all, so I've been making my way through this game using a walkthrough that ultimately serves to hold your hand to the extent of giving me an "on-rails" experience. If I were to just switch to the less prescriptive general walkthrough on the wiki (and maybe also consult the "secrets" page from time to time), is there any chance I'll end up in a place some fifty hours later that'll leave me highly frustrated (i.e. blocked content, "emotional damage", unbeatable stages/enemies)? And if such were a distinct possibility, would y'all suggest I just take such hardships on the chin for impact purposes? Thankee.
 

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Hey so I'm in the Split the Party part of Chapter 2 and I've hit a bit of a snag.

I've been following this walkthrough more or less to the letter...

And i just started the Megail Route but for some freaking reason

Exit the building. Enter the Yhilin Bank in the northeast corner. Interact with the closest teller. He should say "Profits are higher than expected due to Yhilin's unusually good economic conditions

I'm in the Ari-Yhilina Bank and the guy didn't give me 10k ProN, I just got 5k and its... It's bothering me.

I'm short 5k! (My total is 165k)

I've shared my last three save files if anyone can tell what i did wrong... Maybe someone can tell me how to fix it or even better share a save file with the correct steps since i really dont wanna backtrack if i can help it...
you yhilin score is to low, where exact you miss them it's very unclear.
grim had set up a database of save game in the checkpoint of his playthrough


the save 015 is at the end of aka route and at the start of megail one.

I have a question about the start of Chapter 2 (I'm in Chapter 4 already, so it's pure interest).

It's stated that you are only allowed to interact once with the cave (1000Sx, Fight or nothing).
So there is some sort of "XX Days Passed" system in play, and you shouldn't waste time.
Well, since the game is so cryptic, I interacted with the cave for basically a year to pass.

What would have been different if you didn't take too long?
I know there is one sub-mission in a quest that you always fail... I think something like "Don't attract too much attention" or so, but you always get caught in the end.

So, what do these days do/change?
hidden stats, they are crucial to pass check in the whole game [expecially the second half] and every point count. expecially if you want the best result in most game events.

hey y'all, so I've been making my way through this game using a walkthrough that ultimately serves to hold your hand to the extent of giving me an "on-rails" experience. If I were to just switch to the less prescriptive general walkthrough on the wiki (and maybe also consult the "secrets" page from time to time), is there any chance I'll end up in a place some fifty hours later that'll leave me highly frustrated (i.e. blocked content, "emotional damage", unbeatable stages/enemies)? And if such were a distinct possibility, would y'all suggest I just take such hardships on the chin for impact purposes? Thankee.
for the enemies fight if you are through and kill all enemies you can it's not a problem. there can be some blocked content, but it's only for a very bad save, depending the exact meaning of "emotional damage" it's a very concrete possibility.
if you aren't against a replay i usually suggest a blind run followed by a full optimized one, it's make you appreciate the range of outcome the game proived. if you don't want replay such a long game a middle ground can be to play blind until find some section going very bad, in this case you can pick an optimized save from grim playthourgh to start the nearest checkpoint with a very strong save and keep playing blind.
 

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Hey so I'm in the Split the Party part of Chapter 2 and I've hit a bit of a snag.

I've been following this walkthrough more or less to the letter...

And i just started the Megail Route but for some freaking reason

Exit the building. Enter the Yhilin Bank in the northeast corner. Interact with the closest teller. He should say "Profits are higher than expected due to Yhilin's unusually good economic conditions

I'm in the Ari-Yhilina Bank and the guy didn't give me 10k ProN, I just got 5k and its... It's bothering me.

I'm short 5k! (My total is 165k)

I've shared my last three save files if anyone can tell what i did wrong... Maybe someone can tell me how to fix it or even better share a save file with the correct steps since i really dont wanna backtrack if i can help it...
So can tell you have not followed exactly because you get 5K if Yhillin score is 5 or below and and 10K if 6 which is shy we do Aka route first like the bottom 3 are Aka Route things

to go into details of what you missed one of these or to be more exact one of the non strikethrough lines if following Grim guide
  • +1 for investing in Yhilin Bank by the start of chapter 2.
  • +2 for investing in Bridge Repair by the start of chapter 2.
  • +2 for investing in Mine Processing by the start of chapter 2.
  • +1 for investing in Anti-corruption campaign.
  • +1 for investing in Yhilini Public Works by the start of chapter 2.
  • +1 for copying Andrew (the scum Jade clerk).
  • +1 for copying the Kingsman clerk.
  • +1 for returning between 3 and 6 mine papers on Aka's route.

hey y'all, so I've been making my way through this game using a walkthrough that ultimately serves to hold your hand to the extent of giving me an "on-rails" experience. If I were to just switch to the less prescriptive general walkthrough on the wiki (and maybe also consult the "secrets" page from time to time), is there any chance I'll end up in a place some fifty hours later that'll leave me highly frustrated (i.e. blocked content, "emotional damage", unbeatable stages/enemies)? And if such were a distinct possibility, would y'all suggest I just take such hardships on the chin for impact purposes? Thankee.
I would say depends there is a small amount of content for optimised saves but most content can be done with any save, like was tested with a min level party in mind aka skipping all optional(optional in the sense of not needed to progress ) fights, as for emotional damage honestly that can happen even in optimised saves depending how you define it
 

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I lost my save, it was my first playthrough and made it to slightly after forging an alliance? with the elves, or meeting them or whatever, I had two elf girls in the castle. I'm not gonna ask for a save or anything, I'll start over when the game is 100% complete with after-touches etc, it's a good game and I don't mind playing it again but I have a question which is kinda spoilery, so it's for those who finished it.
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hey y'all, so I've been making my way through this game using a walkthrough that ultimately serves to hold your hand to the extent of giving me an "on-rails" experience. If I were to just switch to the less prescriptive general walkthrough on the wiki (and maybe also consult the "secrets" page from time to time), is there any chance I'll end up in a place some fifty hours later that'll leave me highly frustrated (i.e. blocked content, "emotional damage", unbeatable stages/enemies)? And if such were a distinct possibility, would y'all suggest I just take such hardships on the chin for impact purposes? Thankee.
I haven't beaten the game yet, but yes, dependend on your choices, it's possible to miss out on quests, locations and skills.
The emotional damage is always there, sometimes more, sometimes less.
It's war, and how much damage happens depends on your choices, so be prepared for it.
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Is the game unbeatable if too many bad things happen?
No, I've talked with Sierra about this, and she is confident that you won't play yourself into a wall.

I highly recommend playing without a guide.
Even the more drastic consequences can be highly impactful for YOUR playthrough.
Is it optimal?
No.
But it's the story you create out of the game.

To elaborate on the spoiler, since I think this still is a super cool moment, even if it has consequences:
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And the game is till perfectly playable.
Yes, you will miss out on stuff, but at the end, it's your story and these moments are a part of it.

EDIT: It'S highly unlikely to have overall great outcomes in your first playthrough anyway.
If you have the time and love the game that much, it's time for another playthrough, with your knowledge and ways to make less bad decisions.
It's always wise to listen to what party members have to say.
If they think that something is a bad idea, it propably is.
If they say something like: "The bad thing is, we didn't do much about the infrastructure.", for your next playthrough, take care of the infrastructure.

Most things seem like flavortext, but they reflect your choices either in recommendations or the outcome of choices.
 
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I haven't beaten the game yet, but yes, dependend on your choices, it's possible to miss out on quests, locations and skills.
The emotional damage is always there, sometimes more, sometimes less.
It's war, and how much damage happens depends on your choices, so be prepared for it.
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Is the game unbeatable if too many bad things happen?
No, I've talked with Sierra about this, and she is confident that you won't play yourself into a wall.

I highly recommend playing without a guide.
Even the more drastic consequences can be highly impactful for YOUR playthrough.
Is it optimal?
No.
But it's the story you create out of the game.

To elaborate on the spoiler, since I think this still is a super cool moment, even if it has consequences:
You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

And the game is till perfectly playable.
Yes, you will miss out on stuff, but at the end, it's your story and these moments are a part of it.

EDIT: It'S highly unlikely to have overall great outcomes in your first playthrough anyway.
If you have the time and love the game that much, it's time for another playthrough, with your knowledge and ways to make less bad decisions.
It's always wise to listen to what party members have to say.
If they think that something is a bad idea, it propably is.
If they say something like: "The bad thing is, we didn't do much about the infrastructure.", for your next playthrough, take care of the infrastructure.

Most things seem like flavortext, but they reflect your choices either in recommendations or the outcome of choices.
I appreciate the thorough response, thankee. I'm much inclined to just continue blind, though raw-dogging such an epic narrative has me a bit nervous lol. I sincerely hope that I won't be lead down into dire narrative straits because of what 25 hours prior had seemed to be an utterly arbitrary choice lol. It's largely the investment system that made me follow a guide cuz it kinda feels like playing the lottery on the first playthrough lol.
 
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