Ren'Py The Lewdest House [v0.2.17] [Cathornero Games]

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paxogre

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your game to a very specific bunch of people's tastes is like changing your restaurant from serving "ABC" to "XYZ", because there is a fat rich guy who always demands XYZ, and offers to pay you more. One day that fat guy will leave you or die or whatever, and you will end up with a restaurant that servers very niche food, and just can't gather new customers in that neighborhood.
... Yeah, the example sounded better in my mind before writing it but you get the idea.
Waifus on the restaurant main menu. Pinups would be better eye candy than scenery. Make the player work for it to unlock them.
Go with a buffet, so much variety to choose from and if they don't like something they don't have to put it on their plate.

Also if you realize your core market is people getting stoned and wanting munchies at 2am well party up and make some money like tacobell
 
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iju513

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Never cater to some small group of critics. You need to look no further than all the changes big mainstream tv or gaming has done for the so-called modern audience. So props to you for making a game you want. I definitely had fun the first two chapters.
 
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TwoStrokesOneNut

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Go with a buffet, so much variety to choose from and if they don't like something they don't have to put it on their plate.

Also if you realize your core market is people getting stoned and wanting munchies at 2am well party up and make some money like tacobell
The “buffet design” you suggest has been tried in many other games with…varying success. Usually what I’ve seen happen is this just leaves the fans with most routes being undercooked, unfinished snippets that take forever to be updated (*cough, cough* likeagamethatsoundssimilartothisone *cough, cough*) Devs use polls, sure, but then you’re back where you started but just with the financial supporters guiding the game’s focus and priorities instead of the creators.

Personally, I think the Chapter 2 style is the best compromise where sisters that have to wait for their chapter still get have some minor lewd events to tide their hardcore fans over in the meantime. At least there’s no false pretenses about the developer’s priorities. Could you imagine the game we have now, but sloppily rewritten to try and make every girl’s story happen at the same time, in any order? That’s not a buffet, that’s a pig trough.

There are not as many “Taco Bell stoners” in this audience as you make it out to be (this thread and its ratings are proof), and an Italian chef doesn’t get better at making Mexican food no matter the amount of them. This game can keep its integrity.
 

NicolasL4D

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The “buffet design” you suggest has been tried in many other games with…varying success. Usually what I’ve seen happen is this just leaves the fans with most routes being undercooked, unfinished snippets that take forever to be updated (*cough, cough* likeagamethatsoundssimilartothisone *cough, cough*) Devs use polls, sure, but then you’re back where you started but just with the financial supporters guiding the game’s focus and priorities instead of the creators.
Yeah. It either takes a while (for amazing success) or is short (with zero success).

As much as I'd love, and I mean would literally love for each character to have an individual route and have harem stuff be optional, I know it's not that realistic. And I'm fine with it.
 
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lunar_walker

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Personally. I like the Chapter 2 style (so to say). I hope that we get similar in Chapter 3 with a Cassagrade map for it. But if Chapter 3 is like Chapter 1 (a linear Chapter with a few choices sprinkled in) I wont be complaining.
 
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vilewe7570

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I like meaningful choices myself but it does take effort to make them work. Not like there is much overlap between the loli and milf hunters, vanilla vs ntr crowd is always a laugh, clean or scat, straight/gay, and the general waifu wars. Harem is nice but being able to pick your top waifu is better as each girl getting their own route means more content to enjoy. Ravager puts it's fetish options in the preferences so you can just chose what you want.

This game has relationship mechanics so it makes sense that if you prefer 1 girl to another you'll give her more attention. You can skip Lola's scene if S&M isn't your fetish or the Mom's scene for that matter. In games with a large cast and a poor walkthrough some players will get stuck as they seen a girl with a fetish they weren't interested in and just refused to interact with them unless absolutely forced to which doesn't make for the best experience.

Will our hero maintain himself 100% loyal to his crush, or will fall in the overcomplicated life the writers of the original cartoon made for him?
This at least implies there will be options :p
 

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I like meaningful choices myself but it does take effort to make them work. Not like there is much overlap between the loli and milf hunters, vanilla vs ntr crowd is always a laugh, clean or scat, straight/gay, and the general waifu wars. Harem is nice but being able to pick your top waifu is better as each girl getting their own route means more content to enjoy. Ravager puts it's fetish options in the preferences so you can just chose what you want.

This game has relationship mechanics so it makes sense that if you prefer 1 girl to another you'll give her more attention. You can skip Lola's scene if S&M isn't your fetish or the Mom's scene for that matter. In games with a large cast and a poor walkthrough some players will get stuck as they seen a girl with a fetish they weren't interested in and just refused to interact with them unless absolutely forced to which doesn't make for the best experience.


This at least implies there will be options :p
As we have the game designed, the only optional girl is going to be Lisa. Lily will be off limits.
All the other sisters have mandatory routes. We're a two man team and our goal is to give the best Loud House sister fucking with Ronnie Anne experience we can give. That means focusing on things this way.

Even when we move to the open world there will be "Chapters" with one sister at a time having their specific story you're going through. You'll just have an easier time doing things with the unlocked sisters on the side and do some fun story stuff with the others, all while being able to go after the side honeys if you want too.

But Ravager is a non-linear game. Our game is Linear. There is a firm beginning, middle and end. The sisters and Ronnie get involved in a specific unchangeable order that ties into a greater story.

Like DMF said, restaurants specialize in different things.

At this Restaurant we're serving Harem Incest with a dash of Loli and a side of Childhood friend. The reason Lincoln gets a harem is an integral part of the plot. So, this game might end up be disappointing to you if you wanted to run off with Leni and eschew every other sister! Sorry!
 

jefaulmann1

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For those who have lag issues in pc. I had them and could not solve them. Today I tried again and it just worked. I don't know if this is going to work for everyone, but with me the issue was solved when I play offline. In other words, when my wifi is deactivated. No idea why. But at least now I can play again.
 
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paxogre

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The “buffet design” you suggest has been tried in many other games with…varying success. Usually what I’ve seen happen is this just leaves the fans with most routes being undercooked, unfinished snippets that take forever to be updated (*cough, cough* likeagamethatsoundssimilartothisone *cough, cough*) Devs use polls, sure, but then you’re back where you started but just with the financial supporters guiding the game’s focus and priorities instead of the creators.
Yeah some put actual planning into it which shows in the final product while others don't care so long as they can profit off the flame war of polarizing polls with the vote with your wallet nonsense. Unfinished snippets was a feature not a bug as those types didn't have a story to tell, they just sold the hype till the cow ran dry...

There are not as many “Taco Bell stoners” in this audience as you make it out to be (this thread and its ratings are proof), and an Italian chef doesn’t get better at making Mexican food no matter the amount of them. This game can keep its integrity.
If the Italian is worth their salt as a chef they can but stereotypes will have marketing throw a Mexican milf in an apron who can't cook worth a damn on a billboard while they work behind the scenes because that sells. As for audience numbers it would be fun to see which fetishes the fans want most, which ones would make them tune out, and which girls have the most love. But analytical data can be a bitch as if you ask someone what coffee they like they'll tell you make it look like muddy water, and tastes like turpentine as it's the manly answer but behind closed doors make it a light, sweet, and creamy.

For those who have lag issues in pc. I had them and could not solve them. Today I tried again and it just worked. I don't know if this is going to work for everyone, but with me the issue was solved when I play offline. In other words, when my wifi is deactivated. No idea why. But at least now I can play again.
Now this is something I'm actually curious about. There is a news widget connected to the main menu but it should only be making inquiries there... If you switch your wifi back on after loading a save does it still lag?
 

jefaulmann1

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Now this is something I'm actually curious about. There is a news widget connected to the main menu but it should only be making inquiries there... If you switch your wifi back on after loading a save does it still lag?
Right now I can't tell. Let me explain the whole process (english is not my first language, so please forgive any inconcistencies).
Yesterday I downloaded the game and it did not matter what I tried, the game lagged so much that it was impossible to play. Today I brought my laptop with me to some place without wifi. I decided to try again and it just worked without issues. When I came home and started my laptop, it automatically connected to my wifi. When I started the game, it lagged again. So I closed it and tried to turn the wifi off, because I tought it was the only thing that was different. I opened the game and it worked perfectly again. That is when I wrote here in the forum. Then I played for quite a while without the wifi.
But now I tried the game with the wifi on, and it works perfectly anyways??? I dont understand anything.
I am very happy that the problem solved itself, but it is a bit annoing how unconsistent it is. It makes no sense.
 
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jefaulmann1

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Now this is something I'm actually curious about. There is a news widget connected to the main menu but it should only be making inquiries there... If you switch your wifi back on after loading a save does it still lag?
A bit of more data.
I made some experiments.
My wifi doesn't have internet directly. It opens a page were you need to put an user and password to activate internet.
When I am connected to the wifi, but the internet is not activated, the game lags to unplayable levels.
When I am connected to the wifi with internet activated, the game lags a little. Very little. Still playable.
When I am not connected to the wifi it doesnt lag at all.
I started a game connected and with internet. It lagged a bit. I loaded a game. It lagged a bit. I deactivated internet but stayed connected to the wifi. It lagged a lot. I disconnected from the wifi. It stopped laging completely.
I hope this helps. This game is great.
 
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vilewe7570

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As we have the game designed, the only optional girl is going to be Lisa. Lily will be off limits.
All the other sisters have mandatory routes. We're a two man team and our goal is to give the best Loud House sister fucking with Ronnie Anne experience we can give. That means focusing on things this way.
Do keep in mind there is a point you might limbo below Rule 7 and F95 has a habit of sweeping things under the rug if things get dicey. Just saying while ramming down certain fetishes might be funny it also might not do you well in the long run.

But Ravager is a non-linear game. Our game is Linear. There is a firm beginning, middle and end. The sisters and Ronnie get involved in a specific unchangeable order that ties into a greater story.
That actually was a fetish preference as not everyone enjoys every fetish. It's more a quality of life feature.
A game you might want to look up is IA and why IA2 was banned on F95. Project2 has had it's own share of controversy and only the censored version is allowed on here. Even Four Elements Trainer had some cheeky jokes when selecting the fun options. It's a reason many other games make content like that have an optional patch and make players who want it go through additional hoops as you still have a version which can standalone in the end.

At this Restaurant we're serving Harem Incest with a dash of Loli and a side of Childhood friend. The reason Lincoln gets a harem is an integral part of the plot. So, this game might end up be disappointing to you if you wanted to run off with Leni and eschew every other sister! Sorry!
Just keep in mind it has to survive code enforcement to keep the lights running. Best of luck, you're gonna need it!
 

vilewe7570

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I thought that rule 7 only affects games with realistic renders.
It's really a gray zone which is written ambiguously so it's at the mods discretion. I've seen plenty of games get "This violates it but shut up" slapped in the op while others just get spirited away as staff don't want to deal with it. Really depends on how much noise it makes and if staff can claim plausible deniability as it exist but not here like fight club as we don't talk about it.

Something to keep in mind if you're playing limbo.
 
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Rita And Lynn Sr. (Lincoln's parents):
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Sad. Would have liked it more if Rita would like it to be with Lincoln so much that she divorced Lynn Sr. Would have been better when she gets to love Lincoln romantically.

Lori Loud and Bobby Santiago (Canon couple from the show, present in the game)
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Hope for a break Up between Lori and Bobby. With a reveal that Lori liked Lincoln much more romantically since the beginning but chosed Bobby in the past because she was afraid of Lincoln feeling disgusted by Incest. But since she got her secret wish and did it with Lincoln in Chapter 3, she breaks up with Bobby for good.
 
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