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VN Ren'Py The Nature of Magic [Ch.1] [Slate Interactive]

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sisco1986

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man what world we living that a little banter counts as " humiliation", such a fragile ego
a lot of people don't really like when other characters have any agency in the story and i find it really funny because the most popular story heavy games on the site (eternum, artemis or BADIK just to give an example) have every single LI or secondary character having their own agenda

just to be fair here, the mc left Cerys to rot for 5 years and she still received him with open arms when he was forced as her fiance, a real person would have done a lot worse than a couple of practical jokes
 

Juerhullycin

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The other problem here is the one trick he learned isn't really versatile, its a lethal move, so its not like he can go all out against Cerys since it would outright risk her life, so obviously it force him to hold back so he won't beat her by killing her up like he'd do a target.
you maybe want to replay that part again because his lethal move was utter pointless against someone who's specialisation wasn't defensive magic. The terms of the duel was to topple over the other person, something force magic should be pretty good at.
He couldn't even make her flinch. He couldn't even made her shield buckle under his attack, so any Merc with the slightest proficiency of shield magic would have his ass.

And as far as the humiliation goes, it seems like I didn't do a good enough job articulating that nudity isn't a big deal in this world, and, as such, Cerys's actions were meant to be playful rather than humiliating. I had hoped for the short back and forth with Bael in the kitchen where she invites him to stay and eat would help convey that point, but it looks like I should add a bit more to help make it clearer.
I have no problems with the pranks perse because MC was clearly not bothered by it in the slightest but its a one way street MC is the one taking all that shit and didn't prank her once in return. If he would give as good as he got the story would be totally different. But as of right now he is playing a human punching bag, and his refusal to retaliate comes of as resignation.

This is very close to what I was trying to convey. The MC, as The Daemon, is very dangerous in the world outside of the most elite and highly trained mages in the world
And that's why Luthers "respect" for MC makes no sense at all. Luther was in the thick of it and he could best MC easily if they would square off against each other. On one hand MC is super dangerous but in fact he isn't.

Right now all people heap praise on him for what he has done in the past while their actions speak pretty clear that it was nothing.
Luthers respect would be far more believable if its backed up by actions from the MC or the acknowledgment of his raw unrefined power.

But all we got from the sparing was that his power is nothing. Like i said before he should not be able to beat Cery that would be ridiculous, but he should at least be able to spur her into action so she would win, right now all she did was toy with him and he had no chance. She took all attacks head on and didn't even try to dodge them.
Even a comment from her that his spells would crush other mages defences easily while wiping sweat from her brows would indicate that MC is a force to reckon with but he is out of his depths for now.

As an Author the characters can tell us anything, but it means nothing if its not backed up by visible actions.
You wouldn't trust someone in real life who constantly apologises for his wrongdoings just to turn around and keep going with the wrong behaviour.
it just shows the person as untrustworthy and a habitual liar the longer it goes.
 
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L3z1l3

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This game just jumped in to my toplist!

Interesting setting, great characters, beautiful models, nice music.
Can't wait for the next chapter!

Some minor things that I felt could have been done/explained better:
- MC's special technique feels a bit too simple to not be found by anyone previously by accident.
- the Grymm's manor feels too small compared to their status and the fact that they are taking care of 5 wards from the other leading powers of the world. I'd expect to see some servants and more security. The fact that everyone's rooms are on the same corridor makes the house look like a normal house and not like the residence of one of the major powers.
- I feel a bit similar about the fact that there are only 3 known males with the affinity. I don't know how many woman with affinity exist but unless the ratio of female to male magic users is million to one it's hard to see how mages can play an important role in the society but still be not appreciated enough for rogues to exist. And where are the other elder males?
 

Faptime

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A really great first chapter and I'm eagerly awaiting more.

I'm glad MC is not some Chad McThundercock who gets all pissed off over some pranks at his expense.

Narratively, showing him as being nonplussed and shrugging it off is a huge win for those girls that are going to be spending time with him. If he reacted as some of these vocal posters would have liked, the prospective LIs would all spend their time walking on eggshells trying to avoid him.

And the worst prank is literally "oh no I'm forced to show off my massive penis to all these women I'm planning on having sex with". That's a really terrible ordeal for him. Shame.
 
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akinari2014

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A really great first chapter and I'm eagerly awaiting more.

I'm glad MC is not some Chad McThundercock who gets all pissed off over some pranks at his expense.

Narratively, showing him as being nonplussed and shrugging it off is a huge win for those girls that are going to be spending time with him. If he reacted as some of these vocal posters would have liked, the prospective LIs would all spend their time walking on eggshells trying to avoid him.

And the worst prank is literally "oh no I'm forced to show off my massive penis to all these women I'm planning on having sex with". That's a really terrible ordeal for him. Shame.
Sure, do this so called prank to your female friend (strip her in front of bunch of male strangers) and see how it will end . She literally SA him, but it is okay, because she is female.
 

MidnightKing

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Sure, do this so called prank to your female friend (strip her in front of bunch of male strangers) and see how it will end . She literally SA him, but it is okay, because she is female.
I'm sorry man but literally it's a lewd game. Comparing it to the real world is nuts. I can't believe there's people seriously upset by her teasing? She's literally just a confidant woman getting back at the love of her life in a fun way for him up and vanishing on her for 5 years. The MC isn't a pussy with a fragile ego, thankfully.
 

sigvar

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Hmmm, quite a surprise to find this and Inanna Revenge both being initial offerings and not only being really good, aren't 5 minutes long.

This is very promising.
 
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The dev literally stated this was meant to be much more normal in the game's society and between the two characters and that this dynamic would switch around before long. It was just not perceived like that by some people with what was presented and how in the first chapter (me included).
Bitching about it now (or at all really) is showing who is really the fragile one here...
The chapter was good, let the dev cook
 
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Faptime

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Sure, do this so called prank to your female friend (strip her in front of bunch of male strangers) and see how it will end . She literally SA him, but it is okay, because she is female.
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It's a porn game about a magic man having a harem built for him by his incredibly thirsty bisexual fiancee for the purposes of aligning the magic families under one magic cock.

All she has done is show off her man (both his physical and emotional attributes) to the women she is trying to get interested in him. And it's working like a charm. MC, on the other hand, knows he is out of his element and is letting her do her thing. He's trusting her to not go too far and so far she has not betrayed that trust.
 

e6mill

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You can eventually learn to take waking up in your boxers on the lawn with no memory of the party in stride. :p
 

Faptime

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You can eventually learn to take waking up in your boxers on the lawn with no memory of the party in stride. :p
I really liked this prank in game because of who it targeted.

Lealla (sp?) shows up, sees a random dude lying in the grass in his boxers. She obviously knows it's not his fault, that he had been pranked. Then she finds out HE'S the fiance, and he just gets up with a roll of the eyes and a rueful chuckle.

And then again in the kitchen with his dong hanging free. She knows that he's not being a pervert, that he's been pranked again (with an illusion - her specialty) and he's like "oh shit, sorry about that" instead of being hUmiLiAtEd.

And you KNOW she's thinking "if someone had done that to my father, they'd be dead by now".

And I think that's the point: illustrate early and not at all subtly that MC is not like her father. And over time she'll come to see that life is more enjoyable when the man in charge acts like MC instead of her father.

Now that I think about it, every really vocal "MC is a pussy" poster would probably like the game better from the psycho family leader's point of view. Kill all the rivals, coerce all the virgins, be an asshole. That seems to be more their speed.
 
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It's a porn game about a magic man having a harem built for him by his incredibly thirsty bisexual fiancee for the purposes of aligning the magic families under one magic cock.

All she has done is show off her man (both his physical and emotional attributes) to the women she is trying to get interested in him. And it's working like a charm. MC, on the other hand, knows he is out of his element and is letting her do her thing. He's trusting her to not go too far and so far she has not betrayed that trust.
I feel the point more important than the girls being interested in him is the fact that he had already agreed to try and fuck all of them. Which is imo the paramount argument in why all that is ok and which is something the comment you answered to conveniently glosses over.
Yes of course that would be totally different if you just did that without prior consultation, only that here the consultation and consent actually happened before, even if it could have been communicated a bit more clearly.
 

Sterkh90

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It's a porn game about a magic man having a harem built for him by his incredibly thirsty bisexual fiancee for the purposes of aligning the magic families under one magic cock.
I haven't tried it, so I want to clarify. So, the MC plays a more passive role in building his harem and his fiancee does the main work?
 
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