Eland51298
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okay as someone who's played every game you've released so far this is...a stretch
it's not hard to see why people call your games abandoned when you set out big lofty goals for your games and then the moment it's not doing as well as you think it should you scale back the story and nature of the game entirely and then the next update is "totally complete 1.0!"
I know you approach making games like a business but it's no wonder people stop subbing to your patreon when every game is a business transaction and you don't actually seem to care about making a decent product
you can make justifications about artists being expensive however much you want but at the end of the day the quality of game you output doesn't seem to justify anyone being interested
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Also your 'statistic' there isn't even correct
you, and even your patreons, have absolutely said before other games were rushed. Literally both your examples both you and your patreons have said felt rushed and incomplete.
Everyone knows you're here for the money, man. You can just say that's all you make games for, to fleece your patreon
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I generally don't involve myself in discussions and stick to reviews, but this is so backwards it just annoys me.that's an ending, bro
ending was rushed, story was too big and game was not selling so I decided to cut my losses before I went broke
First of all, this is not an ending, this is a cop-out. There is a considerable difference between the two. An ending by definition constitutes some kind of resolution or a conclusion. This was an unfiltered cop-out.
Second, just a reminder, YOU are an author, YOU are a writer. YOU determine how big or small the story is. The fact that your story got too big after FIVE previous similar projects (so you by no means should be an amateur, yet here we are) is a fault on your end and either an inability to scope down and assess the project size according to your capabilities, delusions of grandeur or just a desire for a quick patreon buck on people who don't know better. Perhaps a combination of those.
Here is a simple truth: you make a good game, people gonna buy it. Game was not selling because it was a badly designed game to begin with. If you scale down and make a shorter, finished, cohesive game within your range of capabilities, it will sell.
Also the "story was too big" and "my games were always just fap games" are not arguments you should make together. Pick a lane. If they were always meant to be fap games, make them shorter, more coherent and more importantly finished and with closure.
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There are a few constants in this world:
- The sun rises in the east and sets in the west
- The sky is blue and water is wet
- Whiteleaf Studio games will be "complete" at v0.06
- The sun rises in the east and sets in the west
- The sky is blue and water is wet
- Whiteleaf Studio games will be "complete" at v0.06
Eland51298
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I'm reading this thread after someone posted that the game is trying to access the Internet, and it makes me think: Check if a virus or miner has been installed on your device along with the game, because who knows, maybe that's how the developer wants to make money.
By the way, if def hasn't built up trust, his writing isn't anything special, his renders aren't that great, and on top of that, he has a reputation for abandoning or “finishing” games, so how does he expect to make money? xD
By the way, if def hasn't built up trust, his writing isn't anything special, his renders aren't that great, and on top of that, he has a reputation for abandoning or “finishing” games, so how does he expect to make money? xD
My dissapointment is immeasurable. I was suprised how it got to the ending so fast. Honestly the plot doesn't matter since at least the previous update. There was entire plot with Anastasia zombie girl "becoming human" and learn to feel and love (dropped out of the planet), Gwen mean girl we saved that gradually getting more and more into MC (not a single scene, but hey look her get defeated by some random girl and no comment from MC). Skye and Aoi didn't get much better. Aoi at least get a scene or 2. She wasn't my favourite girl, but she really well summed up the protag, only she should be more pissed. All just to rush to generic harem incest ending. I mean I don't mind incest, but potential was really wasted. It deserves 1 star and nothing more..
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First of all, I don't even have a Patreon. Got banned because of incest a few years ago.
Second, we only have three completed games.
1 - Tamas Awakening
Short visual novel about hypnosis and fucking the whole family.
Fucked everyone, got everyone pregnant, END.
There's no "big story" here. It's all just an excuse to fuck.
COMPLETED GAME, NO RUSHED ENDING.
2 - Family Breeding
Same as above with a bit more plot. Plot is you need to get everyone pregnant to become family head, you do it and game ends.
COMPLETED GAME, NO RUSHED ENDING.
3 - The Necromancer Arises
A lot of plot, too large of a story, too many charaters. (Bad decision which I won't be making again)
Game was not selling well so I made a business decision and decided to cut it short to minimize losses.
COMPLETED GAME, RUSHED ENDING.
So, we have ONE rushed ending. I don't really care if you enjoy my games or not, that's your personal taste, but I'M THE CREATOR and I'm telling you the ONLY game we rushed was The Necromancer Arises.
The other MIGHT FEEL rushed (for your personal taste), but they were not. I just wanted to make fappable incest games. I don't really care much about plot.
Eland51298
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"I don't really care if you enjoy my games or not, that's your personal taste, but I'M THE CREATOR and I'm telling you the ONLY game we rushed was The Necromancer Arises"- And your opinion doesn't matter because you're simply wrong. ;p
Mine too, I'd like to continue the story but it was simply not possible unless I'd keep spending a lot (and I mean A LOT) of money from my pocket every month. I have a family to feed which is more important to me.
We have an animator now, we didn't had one when this game started being made.
Our newest games (like My Demon Family) have more fluid animations.
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Well... You say there is 3 games complete.... out of 6 on f95, 3 complete, 1 looks like in progress and 2 abandoned... well at least according to f95 site.
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Well 1 of those was remade into Family breeding, so its not really abandoned. Rise of Outcast Hero is abandoned though
F95 is wrong. I have 4 games.
Tamas Awakening (Completed)
My Demon Family (In Progress, soon will be finished)
The Necromancer Arises (Completed, but rushed for financial reasons)
Family Breeding (Completed)
Rise of the Outcast hero was a prototype, it was nowhere near being a final product so I don't consider that as abandoned. It was almost a demo, a beta testing to check if people would enjoy that kind of setting for my games. Turns out they didn't. so I changed the game and characters to something else (My Demon Family)
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.....Thats still an abandoned game
On f95? Sure, if that's what the rules say.
On my mind? nah
also, for me a game only counts when I release it on Steam. Anything before that can be changed (and most of the time will be)
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I mean sure in my head I could think that oxygen doest actually exist and we actually breath carbon dioxide through gills on our ass. Doesn't mean that most people think that way. Im sorry but to just about everyone, not just F95 that's an abandoned game
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Art incredible. But no animations... Sad. I more like ART in your old games.
True, and I get what you mean.
But it was never sold. I'm creating games TO SELL, not for fun or for free. I only release them on F95 for the feedback, so I don't feel like I abandoned anything. I think of this place as a beta testing place.
Unlike The Necromancer Arises (which I'm ashamed to have rushed it but there was no other way) and people actually paid for it.