All, the girls in the novel are whores ! and Medb is a Elfen whore, so what is wrong with that ?
Blasphemy. Our lovely ice maiden is pure.
We can do that my good sir.
I do see what Kaija did wrong and why some may not forgive or like her. Honestly only reason im willing to defend Kaija / be more forgiving and understanding and not the parents is for a few reasons. As far as I can recall I think it was the parents idea to have Kaija keep the secrets from the MC initially , as well get close and be a "bodyguard". But correct me if im wrong but didn't the parents recruit her when she was young so I feel there has to be some kind of brainwashing done there as well. Because of that I do put more of the blame on the parents but she is still to blame for going along with everything while in a relationship and not at least saying , hey I have some big secret I cant tell you, you cool with that. But as you know I understand the why and forgave her.
I'm probably one of the only ones with this take on this thread unless there is something I forgot completely from the love path , at this point feels like im forgetting more and more about the game. But I really don't believe she slept / became his gf to make the job easier on the love path. Unless there is a line of dialogue I just missed or forgot about on the love path. But I recall her not going along with that order but fought against it then later became the girlfriend because she wanted to. To me that says she didn't do it to make the job easier but to see how things can work out and if she can fall in love with him, since at this point she only liked the mc more than friends but not in love. At least that's the way I recall interpreting it at the time. Gonna have to do a replay of this game once the update is out for sure id do it now but I feel the update could be 2 - 3 months away or less.
Think love path slightly changes the line. She started relationship out of duty, but fell in love with MC and it was a mix of love/duty, so win-win for her.
That is on the love path, but alas, I acuse her of faking feelings and pretending she liked the sex, and she answers
I hope you are saying this for humour reason not as your real thought.
First we have to find out the reasons and not only the Kaija but also the Templars to know clearly the reasons that motivated them to lie and make the MC suffer, making decisions without understanding the truth of what is happening is stupid for me, taking Decisions without having the necessary knowledge always end in a bad choice, the further the story progresses it will be easier to make the right decision about Kaija, don't you think?
Unfortunately, that is you reading between the lines. First, because Kaija will doesn't say the relationship "made several things easier" if you have high affection with her. Since Kajia's backstory changes based on the points we rack up with her in the first chapter, you can't apply what she says about her motivations in one the branches on her path to another branch. I think that was a very bad game design decision that needlessly complicates her character, but we're stuck with it.
Dude I have no objection to your mindset. You know she did wrong and after listening her excuses you decide to forgive her. In the end it's all subjective and it's all up to you. I wouldn't and you would, that's that. What makes me tick that people saying she did nothing wrong or she has a right to do that because she had reasons. Even Kaija is not that cruel and understood her mistakes. On love path, she is even apologetic about it.
That is the thing though, you don't do such a thing under any circumstances. She could have stayed as a friend then I would not have any problem with her. I'd consider her as untrustworthy and stopped being a friend because she can lie with ease but that's about it. When she started the relationship, that's a line you'd never cross.First we have to find out the reasons and not only the Kaija but also the Templars to know clearly the reasons that motivated them to lie and make the MC suffer, making decisions without understanding the truth of what is happening is stupid for me, taking Decisions without having the necessary knowledge always end in a bad choice, the further the story progresses it will be easier to make the right decision about Kaija, don't you think?
You are wrong about that. There are two sequential scenes she says, before I really realized it, we both were a thing then she adds over time I fell in love with you which means she started the relationship before she loved him.
That like part can only be referenced to the friendship since all the paths cover that. On top of that, she differantiate them by using like and love verbs.
I think this take is a good one but as far as we know MC did not force her into a relationship, is she so weak willed she could not stop it? Intended to keep it platonic but could not, then for her love path the task compromised. She should have asked reassignment.
Really?
Defen, unfortunatley that what you describe is more common (from the male side) as from the female side, and that is each ones morals ethics etc. if you do so, If you have any of self respect, you (and that is true how you said it) won't do anything, on the other hand there are millions of "so called males" that do so, I personally despise them, and to be fair Kaija, has emotions towards MC (that if you count platonic love as an emotion of course) and she comes clear, about all, she takes the bull by the horns and put her cards on the table, thing what we can't say about MC mom, or dad they don't say a word, Kaija has to get backup from Linae, and Hilda, to tell MC, and only because he witnessed and was target of an killing atempt.
No, I'm just stating that she has the same right as you (MC) to feel lust and joy of sex, On the middle path and on the No points path, you as MC can: Flirt and date Elea, fuck Anissa, flirt with your boss, flirt with the Bartender, flirt and Date with Fiona, while in a formal relationship with Kaija. (you two even share an apartment).
Which doesn't actually disagree with my statement.
That's possible, but the likelihood depends on the branch. Kaija's very clear the original friendship wasn't fake across all the branches (and given their age in the flashback, it would be almost impossible for it to be fake). But what prompts her denial is when the MC accuses her of pretending to like him after she reveals the Templars ordered her to protect him.
Of course. It's practically the national pastime.
As long as it's from you xapi.
Being common does not make it right though, innit? She did neither of those, she only gave an explanation after everything unravelled. She only answered questions did not take any initiative either. If Jessicca did not ask about her relation to MC, she did not mention it. MC's mother tried to cover even after everything happened that much is correct and I despise her for it. Though, neither MC nor Jessica was buying it, so they had to explain. On top of that, Templars needed MC. So talking about bare minimum is not a show of courage.
Yes and no. I don't see flirting as a cheating so if she is or MC flirting with others, that is normal for me. So flirting with Elea, boss, bartender or Fiona is not a problem for me. Irl, flirting is only a problem if the other side is a problem. If they tend to make it more than what it is, if the other person someone I despise etc. and it goes both ways, np with that.
Okay, no need for further discussion, we are on the same page. Details don't matter much tbh. You accepted she wronged him, that's all I am saying. Forgiving her is entirely up to the player. For me, there is no reason can make what she did forgivable. If someone can forgive her in such a situation it's up to them.
Okay then. Fuck Kaija and everything she stands for. I hope she'll end up on a stake. I'll bring the oil and wood.Of course. It's practically the national pastime.
Yes we know, you have said a few times and every time we shoot it down. Yet you keep regurgitating this gender bias crap. One last time, the short version: I don't give a shit what is between their legs, if a person deliberately lies, deceives, manipulates, someone they supposedly care for then they are an asshole no matter what is between their legs or what their background is. In fact the biggest asshole of all is the damn father (surprise he isn't a girl). Since he isn't an LI, there is less focus on his bullshit actions. Kaija get so much focus because she is one of the four LIs. Otherwise no one would talk about her.. However, I'd like to see you drop this gender bias crap and go back to your more interesting commentary.
The MC is also an asshole if he screws the girl at the pub, if you get on that path. Since us men are such horrible hypocrites, I'm sure you can find some girls to hang out with and drivel about how bad men are and where have all the good men gone.
