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VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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Pixillin'

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Not the same thing for me since in a VN it's me that chooses what the MC does unlike in a movie/tv show. I make the choices I want to happen since I'm playing these games for enjoyment, not realism.
Sure, but even when I play D&D - my character makes choices based on what the character knows.
 
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Dr.TSoni

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And she also never issued a death warrant on MC!
And she has never confused partial or incorrect information as absolute truth
There have been hints of that, but MC doesn't actually know anything about it.
According to this MC should kill Finn, he knows that only one of them can survive the duel and Medb (who is much more reliable than the Templars) told him so
 
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Niuul

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That's the confusing bit, apparently MC isn't supposed to hate the Templars - he's supposed to be neutral, even after Finn. It may have worked too well, because I despise the Templars now - and if I finish the game with a Li at all, she'll be second best (unless there's one we haven't met yet).
I'd hate them via proxy from his parents lying to him all those years. Although I guess the MCs hate is more towards the parents (if you go full emotional in the conversation at the house with them).
 
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tslojr

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It's amazing how many people in this thread seem to think we shouldn't take Medb at her word about the Templar's involvement in Fin's death despite the fact that we have 0 evidence of Medb ever lying to us as far as I can recall. Yet a lot of these same people are eating up whatever shit Kaija feeds them despite her having admitted to lying to the MC for the entirety of their relationship.
 

e6mill

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we have 0 evidence of Medb ever lying to us as far as I can recall.
She told us her "brother" was killed by Templars too. And yet he wasn't, he died fighting with them to protect humans - as he should've since he was one (and therefore not her brother at all). But the whole "killed by Templars" thing is getting kinda stale, don't you think?
 

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It's amazing how many people in this thread seem to think we shouldn't take Medb at her word about the Templar's involvement in Fin's death despite the fact that we have 0 evidence of Medb ever lying to us as far as I can recall. Yet a lot of these same people are eating up whatever shit Kaija feeds them despite her having admitted to lying to the MC for the entirety of their relationship.
Yes because as I said, the whole story is being set up with a third party being behind it all. Also, it's not like Medb has been an ally to the MC considering what she did in the beginning. As for Kaija, I've never had a problem with the story telling trope of a relationship starting of as a job and then turning in to love, it's often used for a reason. But that's my opinion of course.

And to confuse my self even more, my 2 favorite LI's in this are Kaija and Medb.......
 

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Yes because as I said, the whole story is being set up with a third party being behind it all. Also, it's not like Medb has been an ally to the MC considering what she did in the beginning. As for Kaija, I've never had a problem with the story telling trope of a relationship starting of as a job and then turning in to love, it's often used for a reason. But that's my opinion of course.

And to confuse my self even more, my 2 favorite LI's in this are Kaija and Medb.......
I find Fiona quite intriguing. She's my current candidate for 2nd place LI. But you can't yet (afaik) pursue her far enough to get any answers out of her...
 

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She told us her "brother" was killed by Templars too. And yet he wasn't, he died fighting with them to protect humans - as he should've since he was one (and therefore not her brother at all). But the whole "killed by Templars" thing is getting kinda stale, don't you think?
Ah, yes. That huge lie that basically just amounted to "I blame the Templars for getting my brother killed." The one that was completely cleared up in a few sentences in one scene. Totally comparable to "Hey, I know we've been in a relationship for a while, but I'm really just a member of a secret organization that was assigned to bodyguard you and told to start a romantic relationship with you. Oh, yeah, I knew about that secret organization for our entire friendship before starting that relationship with you, and knew your dad was in charge of it and your mother was a high ranking member before retiring. But I'm totally being 100% honest now. Scout's honor!"

What's that old saying again? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice..." Shit, I can never remember the end of that quote.
 

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Ah, yes. That huge lie that basically just amounted to "I blame the Templars for getting my brother killed." The one that was completely cleared up in a few sentences in one scene. Totally comparable to "Hey, I know we've been in a relationship for a while, but I'm really just a member of a secret organization that was assigned to bodyguard you and told to start a romantic relationship with you. Oh, yeah, I knew about that secret organization for our entire friendship before starting that relationship with you, and knew your dad was in charge of it and your mother was a high ranking member before retiring. But I'm totally being 100% honest now. Scout's honor!"

What's that old saying again? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice..." Shit, I can never remember the end of that quote.
"Shame on me" ;)
 
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Dr.TSoni

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Ah, yes. That huge lie that basically just amounted to "I blame the Templars for getting my brother killed." The one that was completely cleared up in a few sentences in one scene. Totally comparable to "Hey, I know we've been in a relationship for a while, but I'm really just a member of a secret organization that was assigned to bodyguard you and told to start a romantic relationship with you. Oh, yeah, I knew about that secret organization for our entire friendship before starting that relationship with you, and knew your dad was in charge of it and your mother was a high ranking member before retiring. But I'm totally being 100% honest now. Scout's honor!"

What's that old saying again? "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice..." Shit, I can never remember the end of that quote.
The matter is that Medb is not this reliable source, even the information she had about the MC's sword was incorrect
 
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