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VN Ren'Py The Neverwhere Tales [v0.5.0.4p] [Ceolag]

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ryansFLYIN

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Unless you have been under a rock for a couple of hundred thousand years...

Have you actually seen the human race? Watch the news? Even know what's going on around the world right now? As a species, we are utter garbage...and if elves really did exist, I wouldn't blame them/any of them for looking down their nose at us.

Why would a long-lived noble race not think that of us? Hell..I think it of us.

All that aside, she is not racist no, she is actually speciesist to be specific.
Yes, speciesist. "Human Race" popped into my head and I ran with that. Also, yea, we all suck, but from all the movies I've seen when there's another species/realm looking to invade we kinda come together, for the most part.

Dark Elves.
100%, assuming it's not some group we haven't met with coming from the top rope.
 
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Avaron1974

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Personally I feel like it goes against everything MC is set out to do.
This is the first choice where I don't know how I'll get to do it because it just feels:
1. Completely out of character
2. Completely insane thing to do while trying to STOP killing.

I'll probably run one of my saves through just to see how story goes after that choice, but don't think I'll stick with it.
Just feels wrong all around.
The option is there just to give people options I guess but it is completely against what the MC wants.

He didn't want to duel her in the first place, he only drew his sword to defend himself.

The story flows better if you spare her, it just kinda ends the update if you don't.
 

Avaron1974

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100%, assuming it's not some group we haven't met with coming from the top rope.
Absolutely.

At first I thought it was the Hellspawn themselves trying to start a war so they could come in and pick off the scraps.

Then it keeps getting mentioned they don't use magic and how they act is off so someone is obviously using them.

I only say Dark Elves because it seems suspicious how they were brought up and the story around them. It could very well be another group or even the splinter faction in the Templars themselves.

The only other idea I had was a really long shot that some Templars and some Elves were working together to start the war.

There are mentions of other factions and the gang the MC's grandfather put out of business. Could be them back for revenge. I NEED MOAR......
 

Avaron1974

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i didn't like finnabaire at first and i even killed her just to see what happened, sparing her in my main save just so you could make me like her, you monster.
I think that's gonna be a popular view.

She has a massive amount of character growth and is such a good character that the ending doesn't sit right.
 
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Maviarab

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i didn't like finnabaire at first and i even killed her just to see what happened, sparing her in my main save just so you could make me like her, you monster.
Spoilers spoilers spoilers....
 
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xapican

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I think that's gonna be a popular view.

She has a massive amount of character growth and is such a good character that the ending doesn't sit right.
I think it was a necesary plot point, a point of inflection, my prediction in the next chapter, MC has to investigate and stop the Elves, the 3rd party (personally agree with all 3 points Ava pointed out, most probably it is an alliance of extremly greedy and ruthless factions) Fionas family could be most probably involved at least from what she told us in previous chapters, this event is either the Templars (the non corrupted) and Elves get together (MC task) and here is the point, if you burned bridges, you don't have leverage to influentiate the Templars If you didn't get on Medbs good side also the War is inevitable, Midgard and Losjalfar are both doomed.
MC got also his task from the Lady in the Lake. exited till the next update.
 

Wazzatheboss

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Once again the update doesn't disappoint, kudos to the dev.

About the cliffhanger at the end and the elves in general

The apparent death of Finnabair is such a pity (maybe she's not dead but it is long shot at the moment). I really like her, even at the beginning. To good to be a side girl, her character growth was very enjoyable and the sex scene was great. I could see something bad happening to her coming but killing her off is painful.

I feel like the dev got a bit stuck, because of the choice to kill or spare her at the beginning which is a shame because canonically I can't see MC killing her off in that situation, even if you shaped his personality to be confrontational and impulsive.

A good alternative could have been to replace the choice to kill her with just knocking her out. That way you can still have a bad reaction from the Elves.

I know that having Finnabair allegedly killed by the Templars is a good way to rise the stakes and create conflict in MC but her father (Allill?) could have filled the role too, once MC starts to train with Finnabair, he almost disappear which is a shame. He is the first Elve to be friendly or at least not hostile to MC, he seems to be on the older side and antiwar.

You could have some dinner scenes with him teaching MC about Elve history (stick Medb to language duty). You could also quickly having MC to have huge respect for him for his values, his pacifism, being upfront and honest with his daughter (unlike MC father) etc. Him getting killed by Templars would also convince elves to start war, create conflict and anger into MC and even a rift between Finnabair and MC.

 

UnoriginalUserName

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Doing that to Finnabair was fucked up. :cry:

I want to go have another chat with Nimue now and see if she can toss Excalibur our way since it's the sword made for aggression and war, and clearly some bitches need seeing to. Should bring Lugh along, too.

Speaking of Nimue though, damn, she's gorgeous.
 

cb863

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anyone figured out how to get the kari scenes in chapter 5??? ive played it through a few times and cant figure it out for the life of me
 

e6mill

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Drink mead. Drink more mead with her. Be cocky. Already have thanked her before. That's all I recall, but it's do-able. Bit of a revelation on that path as well.
 
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