Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

[Hatler]

Aww man, we get sad Rogue when we close the game now? =(

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[qwoppe]

I love to rollback and forward big parts of the story too. Do you mean asking to be a girlfriend or asking out on a date? Have you tried texting them? I think texting is the initial way of setting up the first date night.

It might just be a stats thing, they all have different thresholds for everything. If you get their love and trust to 600 each and you're still not getting the option to ask them out then you've def got a bug and should post to the discord and send your save to Ronchon.

I'm actually braindead, I was looking over phone and conversation options in every location and situation, and the one thing I forgot was a thing, texting, was the answer.

Well that sure fixes the shit out of my problem. Thanks dude.

Chalk it up to coomer impatience, I guess, as even though this is a game where I decided not to skim the text, I evidently skimmed at least a bunch of the text. Can't be just me who's gonna have problems like this though, the porn game audience being what it is. It would be nice for Kurt to have more tutorial repeat/hint for next step type convo options, that might help the matter considering some of the complaints I've read in this thread.

 

[zack200]

For now? Nothing too outstanding. In the future though, the girls will have their "quest completed" by some other means. Meaning you won't get to see their growth or influence their quirks or opinions.

Some girls may even date off-screen and lose their virginity. We're not considering this NTR as you'll never see it happen and they won't talk about it.

Y'all can blame me. I put my foot down by saying Jean remaining celibate for half a decade was bad writing.

This is stupid just stop

 

[wiseold6996]

Hopefully we eventually get to collars and leash etc

 

[poil]

Not having the possibility to skip when you release a version that needs a replay from the start i quite a bummer. My mouse button is only rated for 50 million clicks. I can't waste them like this. I was very pleased with 0.2 and had big hopes but playability is made so low by this simple change that I'd rather not play 0.3. Hope this get fixed soon, I don't want to stay disappointed.

Also, like many here I believe, I don't play the games available here with both hand on the keyboard and mouse. So the most commonly used function should be accessible with the mouse only. Right-click needs to lead to the full save menu or at least to a menu with quick access to it. I save scum like there is no tomorrow and having to go for the escape key is slow.

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

Spoiler: Damn Laura...

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I laugh every time I get to that point.

 

[forgotp]

Is there any way to unlock new skills or is that not in the game yet?

 

[Mutation8888]

Aww man, we get sad Rogue when we close the game now? =(

Better than an angry Laura.

 

[ShiShi!]

We've intentionally made things non-uniform. Oni's game may have different starting points but pretty much everything is the same.

We decided to make each girl a different experience in what they're comfortable with to make things less repetitive.

And you're free to play that game if all you want is simple sex. We've never said otherwise.

This is not about "simple sex" and what not, I'd just go watch porn if that was what I wanted. It's simply my opinions regarding things being simple to understand and figure out (which, in this case: the sex mini-game).

I think it's safe to assume most players would assume that you CAN get the girl in the mini-game to orgasm when they are presented with the bar. Now that you clarified that it is intentionally made that way so that players can't get certain characters (e.g Jean) to orgasm during early stages of the relationship due to her being more restrictive than other characters then it makes sense.

I now know that you intentionally did this to give the characters more personality. However I'd like you to consider this from a video games perspective. This is what we'd call a "scripted loss", the players were lulled into thinking they could accomplish it simply because they were presented with the ability to "play" through it with a progression bar only to find out no matter what they do it's non-achievable.

Most gamers don't like this.

It's also just a sex mini-game so I don't think it needs to be too serious.

I like the game so far though, keep it up.

 

[Hansel123]

Hitting continue from the main menu (at very first boot) gives a traceback just fyi

EDIT: Ah it's because my old save is there

 

[Maddeninggg]

Now that you clarified that it is intentionally made that way so that players can't get certain characters (e.g Jean) to orgasm during early stages of the relationship due to her being more restrictive than other characters then it makes sense.

I believe shiny was mistaken. It is possible to bring even Jean to orgasm in the first season. It's not necessarily easy which as you said it is intentional, but it is possible.

 

[stormtiger]

I have finished every objective on Fall except the Jogging with Rogue. I can not figure out how to trigger this event. Anyone know what you have to do?

 

[Conrad-N7]

This is not about "simple sex" and what not, I'd just go watch porn if that was what I wanted. It's simply my opinions regarding things being simple to understand and figure out (which, in this case: the sex mini-game).

I think it's safe to assume most players would assume that you CAN get the girl in the mini-game to orgasm when they are presented with the bar. Now that you clarified that it is intentionally made that way so that players can't get certain characters (e.g Jean) to orgasm during early stages of the relationship due to her being more restrictive than other characters then it makes sense.

I now know that you intentionally did this to give the characters more personality. However I'd like you to consider this from a video games perspective. This is what we'd call a "scripted loss", the players were lulled into thinking they could accomplish it simply because they were presented with the ability to "play" through it with a progression bar only to find out no matter what they do it's non-achievable.

Most gamers don't like this.

It's also just a sex mini-game so I don't think it needs to be too serious.

I like the game so far though, keep it up.

i think, and i would hope devs implement this, devs should make a speech bubble or something pop up where it says Jean is resisting, so that at least it makes some sense for this situation. feels less like a loss then and more like progress

 

[Kalifax]

if they were lucky made a profit from selling it for $20-50 after it was released as completed

I, too, begrudge people their livelihoods and financial security. They're so much less desperate to squeeze themselves dry for a vague promise of it coming in the future. And they should only get it, if they're lucky. I am a generous god.

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

I have finished every objective on Fall except the Jogging with Rogue. I can not figure out how to trigger this event. Anyone know what you have to do?

Meet up with her in the Danger Room when she's there with the "Action Available" marker thingamabob on the map.

 

[Schwert]

So how much content there is currently on the game?

 

[Mutation8888]

I, too, begrudge people their livelihoods and financial security. They're so much less desperate to squeeze themselves dry for a vague promise of it coming in the future. And they should only get it, if they're lucky. I am a generous god.

I already ignored him after his last post. Nothing he said made any sort of sense in relation to this game.

 

[KD_OP]

Can you edit/overwrite the default outfits? And how would you make the girls wear custom outfits around?

 

[Deleted member 4909039]

wish list
-iipstick optional/changeable
-hairstyles in sex minigame
-ability to make non-rogue girls at least slightly submissive/neutral. why does laura get to tap my balls as chastisement and I can't say anything, she is crazy
-something is wrong with the shape/size of Jean's mouth and jaw is too wide. maybe could use some eye makeup options


bugs(?) (macos 14.2.1)
-what happened to most of the clothing and lingerie
-rogue lingerie panties missing images in minigame, see screenshot
-game gets substantially slower as it progresses
-have never seen any stat rewards for gifting clothing, in this or last version

-many small things are clunky or broken but not notable enough for me to have remembered them in detail

That said, very much more fun than 0.2b

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

How to get more clothes for the girls ? I't doesn't show anything news in the mall. I already finished all main quest.

We're updating the clothing art.

There seems to be a bug in my save. I'm pretty damn far in the story (Spring), with all relationship variables in the 400-600 range, but the option to date Laura or Rogue isn't available to me, only Jean. She gave me the go-ahead to date them, and I've done all their special events before moving on to the next chapters so far, but no dice.

Can anyone tell me if this is a bug and if it can be fixed?

Edit: I should also add that I haven't cheated or anything, though there were plenty of rollbacks.

Huh, you should be able to text or call them. I'll check and see what's up.

The art:

The gameplay:

The Technical:

Final thoughts:

Thank you for the detailed feedback. I'll pass it on.

Why can't we break up?

Dev team decided to omit this early on. Popular consensus is not to punish the player or lock them out of dating.

Thats how we should see it instead of a full fledged game

Thank you.

there is a lot of promise here but the devs need to watch out for feature creep and the urge to redo things endlessly thinking it will be a better end product

Making Chapter 1 as feature complete as possible is being done so that way players will have a complete experience in the SIGNIFIGANTLY OFF CHANCE that we decide to stop.

Also, if it's done in Chapter 1, it means all we have to do for future chapters is art and writing.

Haven't tried the game yet but is there no plans for a harem route?

One of the major features is polyamory. So yes.

Alright I went into this super skeptical but honestly playing this just for Kurt is equally hilarious mother fucker keeps jump scaring the mc anytime he's fucking groggy in the morning or tired as shit after Laura goes mma on your charecter he just pops up gives you a micro heartattack advertises his cellphone app then disappears without warning

Kurt was originally just meant as a cameo but the dude is so beloved that he became an actual NPC and with the rising popularity more male characters will be added to be bros with.

Ah damn, didn't know this. Hope those options get restored in relatively quick patches!

Yes, the girls are actually pretty okay with you dating other people... as long as you let them know first.

Consent is important. Inviting someone into your relationship is quite a change.

We've stretched ourselves for reasons why the girls would be open to a relationship while still maintaining some level of realism.

This is ultimately a porn game no matter how good the writing is so there will be the occasionally spotty bit.

Poor chaps certainly deserve to get some

About the boys, without disclosing too much info I can tell you that they are not gonna die alone, at least not most of them (there are always some assholes, those might end up lonely)

We respect the characters more than Marvel does sometimes. Including one off characters that fit as good girlfriends for the dudes and are often neglected for several years by writers.

The writers have confirmed the guys will have off-screen girlfriends. We will not get to cuck them nor will there be any swinging...

I was shot down real quick with my Kitty + Colossus three-way suggestion but worry not. Mods exist for a reason.

All the other girls will be mutants too.

We never established that restriction.

but no threesomes yet.

They will be implemented as soon as they can, believe me.

I miss it that we dont see where the characters are on the map itself, that was a nice feature without having to look to the side at the rooms names and the character circle.

As I said previously, with characters being added it would clutter the map beyond reason. As some of you may notice, the girls are chilling out in the background rather than the foreground in some cases. Once we go above 3 characters, the space on the map gets blocked.

And secondly, for me the dotted background of the speech bubbles make it harder to read, i liked the more clear background (if i remember that correctly).

Gotta agree, the dotted text bubbles are honestly just incredibly ugly and downright painful/hard to read.

This can be toggled.

Oh how about if you could click on the character circle on the side of the map and go to that room? That could be a great shortcut.

I will pass this on to the dev team. It's a good idea.

the art feels a bit Ai-cg but overall good

It's not AI.

let's hope it will get improvement in the future .

We've publicly stated that it will be.

That just makes me miss the good ol' days before Patreon existed

Statistically more projects got abandoned due to lack of funding than the existence of projects sustained by scam artists.

In fact several projects STILL get abandoned due to funding issues.

when nothing still under construction was released to someone that wasn't on the dev team or at least a closed beta tester before it was finished and devs funded development with their own money

We did fund the first release in house. We then ran out of money. Ron actually went into the red slightly.

and if they were lucky made a profit from selling it for $20-50 after it was released as completed.

We can't sell this game as it is a parody of an existing IP.

As it is now if it it takes 20 updates to finish with 2 months each and one is subbed at $5/mo that's $200 for a game when even a AAA title is $60-70

We surprisingly do work fast for the amount of content we put out/update. We also don't force anyone to pay for our work.

The only benefits of being a patron are-

1. You see some art early.

2. You get access to the OST.

3. You help get the art done faster as we can pay the artist more.

absolutely ridiculous, esp when there's no guarantee it will even be completed

We're all hyper focused on getting chapter 1 as complete as possible. Unfortunately you're gonna have to take me at my word.

but only because there are no free options at all and never will be

Yeah that's sad and you never have to worry about us blocking content.

We haven't and will never paywall people to play this game.

Aww man, we get sad Rogue when we close the game now? =(

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You monster.

This is stupid just stop

Make me.

Hopefully we eventually get to collars and leash etc

It will depend on the girl and situational content.

If you want to collar all the girls, then this isn't the game for you.

I now know that you intentionally did this to give the characters more personality. However I'd like you to consider this from a video games perspective. This is what we'd call a "scripted loss", the players were lulled into thinking they could accomplish it simply because they were presented with the ability to "play" through it with a progression bar only to find out no matter what they do it's non-achievable.

I thought we did a good job of telegraphing the girls having different preferences. We also haven't put any scripted losses.

I believe shiny was mistaken. It is possible to bring even Jean to orgasm in the first season. It's not necessarily easy which as you said it is intentional, but it is possible.

I think something was lost in the conversation. If I said anything that implied that you can't get girls to finish then I'm sorry.