Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

[Dudlbert]

That... Has nothing to do with the original point.

You were disparaging the fact that we use both love and trust to proceed and were corrected.

We don't need a tooltip to explain that side quests aren't required for progression. It's a fundamental part of gaming and the name should spell it out for you. They're quests you do on the side, separated from the primary objectives.

Onto your latest question. We implemented the side quests because people were complaining about having to read dialogue explaining how to get with a girl. However, we have several people who only want to pursue one girl so we don't make it a requirement to have sex with all of them. In fact, you can get through the game without dating any of the three.

tl;dr -> My opinion doesnt matter anyways, you develop and i will play.

I guess we are running circles now BUT i think you are the one who needs to be corrected... I spesifically asked about the usefulness of two stats if you need both to advance WITH GIRL QUESTS... I never said anything about general progression.

"...of the stats Love/Trust since you need both anyway if you want to advance with the girls."

Next is, you need both stats for every girls side quest, not only Rogues, which yu stated some posts above.

So again, both stats together are useless. I know, that you only need trust, to advance the MAIN Quest but if you only need one stat, you could only have implemented one stat - love, which already counts separately for each girl. Does not go against your rare situation in which someone want to play an ero-game for only the story and skips all the girls so far...

Change the requirement in the main quest from trust to something else like idk, player lvl and *poof*, you could erase the stat trust completely from the game.


Side note: Sad that the game is only a wholesome one so far and has no real corruption.

 

[Dazzier31]

Side note: Sad that the game is only a wholesome one so far and has no real corruption.

And that's how it shall stay

 

[drMAD]

And that's how it shall stay

Aw, too bad. I really like corruption mechanics in games, partially because it is so, SO far from anything I would ever do in real life.

So four or five days ago I discovered Roguelike for the first time. Played it through, loved it. Discovered the Prime mod for it that had ideas I myself had thought would be cool while playing it, so I downloaded and played through that. Great! But still needed a fix because, while fun, it was still just a sex sandbox and eventually I got bored. Then I found this, and hoo boy.

As much as I like Roguelike, this game is just better on practically every level (to my tastes, obviously). I liked Roguelike's cartoony art; I LOVE NH's more realistic and super sexy art. Love the music. Love the fact that it actually has story and structure, and the possibility to be a full game built around the sex sandbox and not JUST a sex sandbox. As mentioned above, wish there was some option for corruption mechanics, but at least the shame outfit system has a hint of that.

Really, REALLY looking forward to seeing how the game develops, and hoping to see my favorite girl, Kitty, make an appearance soon. And, uh, maybe not the most popular opinion, but I hope she is actually shaped like the one in Roguelike. I know many (most?) guys prefer the giant melons, and don't get me wrong, they're great, but I love the perky little ones best and you rarely see that in games unless the character is a loli (which, ick). Just my two cents.

Anyway, based on some of the comments in the thread (haven't read the whole thing, mind), I assume some of the game devs frequent here, so let me just say thank you for an incredible game! I will pledge on the Patreon as soon as I get a new source of income; currently have time to play all these games because I am disabled and unemployed.

 

[Poker_king70]

And that's how it shall stay

But, but, but what about my adamantium-laced hickey kink?

 

[Dazzier31]

Really, REALLY looking forward to seeing how the game develops, and hoping to see my favorite girl, Kitty, make an appearance soon. And, uh, maybe not the most popular opinion, but I hope she is actually shaped like the one in Roguelike. I know many (most?) guys prefer the giant melons, and don't get me wrong, they're great, but I love the perky little ones best and you rarely see that in games unless the character is a loli (which, ick). Just my two cents.

Well, the devs are very much in favor of keeping the comic representations of the characters and Kitty has always been more on the slim and petite side, so while not confirming anything, IF Kitty were to show up at some point, she has a decent chance of being that way.

But, but, but what about my adamantium-laced hickey kink?

Sounds more like lead poisoning tbh.

 

[Buttholder]

Aw, too bad. I really like corruption mechanics in games, partially because it is so, SO far from anything I would ever do in real life.
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Really, REALLY looking forward to seeing how the game develops, and hoping to see my favorite girl, Kitty, make an appearance soon. And, uh, maybe not the most popular opinion, but I hope she is actually shaped like the one in Roguelike. I know many (most?) guys prefer the giant melons, and don't get me wrong, they're great, but I love the perky little ones best and you rarely see that in games unless the character is a loli (which, ick). Just my two cents.

It's not really something I'm particularly interested in writing either, tbh. Characters going 'wait, I'm into that?! Since when?!!', that's always fun, but a lot of corruption stuff just feels icky to me. More power to you if it's your thing though, not about to yuck someone's yum.

As for Kitty, yeah, if she makes it in, we'll be aiming to make her an A/B-cup at most. We get asked about it on the Discord all the time, and basically, we want a good amount of representation of various body types, from the Itty Bitty Titty Committee to the Mega Milks, from slender, willowy figures to outright Muscle Mommies, we're wanting to make sure everyone has something they can find appealing. And if you wind up getting into a character you didn't know existed until ten minutes after you started playing them, so much the better.

 

[Poker_king70]

Sounds more like lead poisoning tbh.

The shared locker room proves Xavier is a cheap bastard (not that I personally want to know if blue-furred mutant smell like wet dogs in the shower), but I can see him cutting costs on the dorm rooms too. As often as they get trashed, we're all lucky we don't have lead paint and asbestos poisoning.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

but at least the shame outfit system has a hint of that.

See this is a good perspective to have. A lot of the time people conflate corruption and brainwashing.

I want to point out the quirk system again. Null is noticing a personality tick that is an unhealthy coping mechanism and encouraging it because he's a kinky bastard.

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At least to me, making a girl act depraved based on something that was already there instead of making them cum addicted bimbos with no sense of self beyond wanting your dick is infinitely more interesting.

As Holder phrased it.

'wait, I'm into that?! Since when?!!'

maybe not the most popular opinion

I have the data backing that it is the most popular opinion in regards to Kitty.

I assume some of the game devs frequent here, so let me just say thank you for an incredible game!

I'm the community manager and I read EVERY post. The rest of the dev team pokes their heads in here every once in a while as the above quoted Holder.

I will pledge on the Patreon as soon as I get a new source of income; currently have time to play all these games because I am disabled and unemployed.

Dude, we like money but not at the expense of anyone's health. If you're in a tight spot you should focus on you.

we're all lucky we don't have lead paint and asbestos poisoning.

The twist ending is that Null is attending a normal boarding school and is just high off of fumes from a mansion made in the 1800s.

 

[Poker_king70]

The twist ending is that Null is attending a normal boarding school and is just high off of fumes from a mansion made in the 1800s.

Good point. Linseed oil on the woodwork would make anyone a little giddy.

 

[Mutation8888]

I have the data backing that it is the most popular opinion in regards to Kitty.

Yep. Or as Stan Lee would say, "Nuff said."

 

[chopolander]

Aw, too bad. I really like corruption mechanics in games, partially because it is so, SO far from anything I would ever do in real life.

I agree. I think corruption in this type of game is necessary.

 

[Clobbertime]

Who said the news broadcast is what triggered it?

Not the broadcast itself, but his reaction to it. First his emotions rise when hearing about 'more attacks' then his reaction is...
"There can't be anything worse than being brainwashed like that. I'd give anything to not be affected by that kind of danger." -Null

Then he is hit by the same pain and nausea that hits him when he thinks about having abilities like Laura's and Rogues. So his original power that hasn't been identified yet gives him a new power that lets him nullify other powers as protection. Unless you're saying that Farouk triggered it, but their exchange doesn't start until after Null starts feeling ill from the effects of his power.

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

I agree. I think corruption in this type of game is necessary.

1. It's not necessary. F95 refuses our request to have the trainer tag removed. We can't even get the female domination tag applied.

2. Check my post up above

Unless you're saying that Farouk triggered it, but their exchange doesn't start until after Null starts feeling ill from the effects of his power.

Who knows?

 

[Buttholder]

Not the broadcast itself, but his reaction to it. First his emotions rise when hearing about 'more attacks' then his reaction is...
"There can't be anything worse than being brainwashed like that. I'd give anything to not be affected by that kind of danger." -Null

Then he is hit by the same pain and nausea that hits him when he thinks about having abilities like Laura's and Rogues. So his original power that hasn't been identified yet gives him a new power that lets him nullify other powers as protection. Unless you're saying that Farouk triggered it, but their exchange doesn't start until after Null starts feeling ill from the effects of his power.

In canon, sometimes mutant powers are triggered by trauma or heightened emotion - fear, anger, even romantic feelings, in Rogue's case. And sometimes, it just happens out of the blue, a kid is eating a cheeseburger and suddenly the burger is on fire, or they're running laps around a track and wondering where that sonic boom just came from.

What I'm saying is, it could be response to external stimuli - or it could just be a weird coincidence. Wouldn't be the first time it happened in the comics.

 

[Poker_king70]

In canon, sometimes mutant powers are triggered by trauma or heightened emotion - fear, anger, even romantic feelings, in Rogue's case. And sometimes, it just happens out of the blue, a kid is eating a cheeseburger and suddenly the burger is on fire, or they're running laps around a track and wondering where that sonic boom just came from.

What I'm saying is, it could be response to external stimuli - or it could just be a weird coincidence. Wouldn't be the first time it happened in the comics.

Or a combination of mitigating circumstances. Null is stressed by the newscast, Farouk senses it and sends out a mental probe to see if Null suspects him. The mental probe while already stressed is the trigger and nullification is the result.

 

[Poker_king70]

The first wave of LI all feature a heroine who are lonely to the point of being broken. Rogue isolates herself out of fear of her power. Jean isolates herself with an obsessive need for scholarly achievement. Laura has no social awareness and is feared and ostracized.

With the second wave, does the confirmation of Storm as a possible LI suggest an alternative thematic grouping?

 

[Buttholder]

The thematic line was actually accidental until we realised what we'd done, then we started leaning into it more. Since then, we've had discussions about the potential ch.2 girls and we'll be going in with the intent of establishing a theme more concretely, maybe not from the off, but it'll definitely (hopefully) be more obvious. Feel free to debate what that may be!

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

The first wave of LI all feature a heroine who are lonely to the point of being broken.

The thematic line was actually accidental until we realised what we'd done, then we started leaning into it more.

We accidentally pushed the Loneliness epidemic of the 2020s back to the mid 2000s

 

[Poker_king70]

The thematic line was actually accidental until we realised what we'd done, then we started leaning into it more. Since then, we've had discussions about the potential ch.2 girls and we'll be going in with the intent of establishing a theme more concretely, maybe not from the off, but it'll definitely (hopefully) be more obvious. Feel free to debate what that may be!

Not knowing the new arrivals, but postulating from Storm being claustrophobic, that would make Betsy Braddock (body dysmorphia) and Lorna Dane (bipolar) a logical guess.

 

[Buttholder]

We accidentally pushed the Loneliness epidemic of the 2020s back to the mid 2000s

Pfft, I was lonely before it was cool!