Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]
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There seems to be an error where bedrooms are considered public places; if this has already been reported, sorry for the repetition. For reference this was flirting with laura in her room while not in an open relationship with rogue.
It ain't.
I wish people would stop. Staff already refuses to let us tag the game properly. I feel like they'd add AI-Art just to spite us.
As Derp mentions here, managing to create all these little layers and variants for the facial expressions/animations would be basically impossible with AI. There's a *lot* of unseen layers behind the scenes, and we have dozens upon dozens of expressions/poses and clothing pieces that all need to be congruent with the rest of the character art. AI isn't that consistent.
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This threw me back to this video. It stuck out to me ever since the first time I saw it.
As mentioned awhile back, we're doing a rewrite of it. Just takes time folks.
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Oh yes, artists certainly do try to put meaning into things, and sometimes they do it even unintentionally (an unconscious bias that they put in without explicitly meaning to), but it seems to me that most people don't actually get what the artist intended unless it was blatantly obvious, seeing instead their own interpretation based on their own biases.
John Lennon - who did put meanings into his songs for sure - was amused by people spending so much time trying to find meanings in all his songs, even ones that had no deep meaning. After getting a letter from a student at his former high school "that his English teacher had assigned the Beatles’ lyrics to the class — the students were to analyze the songs", Lennon decided to "confuse, befuddle, and mess with the Beatles experts”, and a unsuspecting high school teacher, by writing the song 'I Am The Walrus', which is - according to Lennon - by and large utter nonsense with just whatever crossed his mind at the time he wrote it. Which hasn't stopped people spending a lot of time and effort to find the hidden meaning anyway.
Apparently that was a bit of an overreaction on the part of the Devs when some... people wanted it to be a rape simulator instead of a dating sim. They basically did it to spite that lot. As Shiny says they will calm it down at some point, probably before going on to Chapter 2.
Also, their hands and feet look like hands and feet, not like they were drawn by Rob Liefeld while stoned.
Oh... and the reason a lot of things look like AI is because a lot of things were analyzed by AI to learn how to do things, so commonalities in those ended up becoming how AI makes stuff. The assumption is backwards.
It's like complaining about Cassablanca being so cliche (it was the source of the things that became cliche), or Lord of the Rings being like Star Wars (kinda the other way around...)
That's not to say that any art from Null Hypothesis was analyzed by any AI programs, just that the art here is of a particular style that is used by quite a few artists, and became part of the program. RLE was trying to copy the style of the TV show X-Men Evolution, while NH is trying to copy the (general) style of the comics (complicated by different artists having drawn the same characters in different ways).
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Okay, just to be clear. I don't think that ALL the art in the game is the result of AI work, definitely not. However, this NEW art of Rogue in this pose looks like it's been given the AI treatment. “Enhancement”, upscaling, whatever you want to call it. Specifically the body - chest, stomach, and everything below.
In retrospect, yes, perhaps I should have worded my thought with these amendments right away.
In retrospect, yes, perhaps I should have worded my thought with these amendments right away.
I'll pass it onto the devs. It coule be amusing.
I don't know what to tell you my dude. We receive in-progress sketches throughout the creation process and due to it being a paper doll it has so many pieces. An AI can't be responsible for its creation. They're not advanced enough.
While I risk coming off as more slighted than I actually am, I think it is quite demeaning to accuse an artist of using AI when they improved upon a design and gave it more detail aka "upscale". It's an insult to their skill and character.
You should probably self-analyze and think about what you consider AI art because you're seeing it in places where it doesn't exist.
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Admittedly I've tried using AI to enhance my own art (with mixed results), but I think many people see anything that looks airbrushed or has a digital oil painting look to it as being made with everyone's favorite art AI algorithm, Stable Diffusion.
I honestly feel bad for the folks running all the online art forums because they've been having a hell of a time with people uploading AI work and claiming it as their own, especially earlier on in this big AI boom.
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It is absolutely possible for an artist to run parts of their work through AI tools to "enhance" the quality and detail. By presenting my argument as if I believe that art was entirely the result of AI, you distort my argument and cast me in a more dishonest light.
You are slighted. And while I understand there it coming from, this makes you kinda not see my question more clearly and therefore not answer very convincingly.
I have recently had to deal with AI art quite a lot (so, so many digital boobs ffs). You involuntarily begin to recognize patterns, skin shine, body proportions, symmetry in certain places where it usually does not exist. I'm absolutely sure that the game's art is entirely due to the artist honest work, but so far this Rogue art looks like the artist decided to try using AI tools to improve it. Of course I'm not sure, this is just an observation. It will become clearer as we see further progress, i guess. Will be first to admit I was wrong, no shame in that.
Just a general announcement. My cheat has been updated to include removal of statuses via Hum-Hum. While this won't fix/overcome any bugs via cross version saves and the new friendship system, it should help ease the gameplay for those stuck in that situation.
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Kitty. That's all I need in this world.
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So, I'm running into several occurances at the end of chapter 1 when in the hot and heavy stuff with the girls that the selections I choose aren't the ones that the game responds to. Lets say I ask them to make out and they respond with That's not going anywhere close to my ass.... and that gets counted as a bad choice and the penalties are applied. very frustrating sometimes when trying to balance the girls out and suddenly they start to get up and walk out on you after giving you a negative and then they are miffed at you.
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Wait,since when chapter 2 will have 4 girls?
Did I miss the addition of 1 to the promised 3 girls?