Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

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Terry Zimmerman

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Tahaelhour1 said:
this whole discussion is proof of how garbage the western comics model is. if you wanna go read a manga, you look up the name and go to chapter 1. once the author is done, the story and the world is done. No 70 authors on one character fighting for everyone's attention for 60 years.

Not that good stuff can't come out of this model, but it inherently breeds stagnation. you will die and superman will be constantly retold, but once demon slayer is over, it's over.
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I disagree with almost everything you said. A lot of the best stories about this characters came (in my opinion) 60/70/80 years after their creation by a variate of different people. You want goofy batman? You got it! theres Adam Wests batman. You want dark batman? Watch the Nolan or Snyder movies. What about Dragon Ball? Can I jump straight into Z? or Super? Sure as hell I did, didnt watch a single original dragon ball episode.
edit: Maybe we should stay on topic. Im gonna shut up now.
 
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Niki Boxcer

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Mac version crashes on startup

Code: 
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/characters/Charles/displayables/chair.rpy", line 57, in <module>
Exception: Could not load Live2D. b'/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/MacOS/libLive2DCubismCore.dylib' was not found.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "characters/Charles/displayables/chair.rpyc", line 57, in script
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/ast.py", line 922, in execute
    img = renpy.python.py_eval_bytecode(self.code.bytecode)
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/python.py", line 1202, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/characters/Charles/displayables/chair.rpy", line 57, in <module>
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 591, in __init__
    common = self.common
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 542, in common
    return self.create_common()
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 530, in create_common
    rv = Live2DCommon(self.filename, self.default_fade)
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 188, in __init__
    init()
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 95, in init
    onetime_init()
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 68, in onetime_init
    raise Exception("Could not load Live2D. {} was not found.".format(dll))
Exception: Could not load Live2D. b'/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/MacOS/libLive2DCubismCore.dylib' was not found.

macOS-10.14.6-x86_64-i386-64bit x86_64
Ren'Py 8.3.0.24022002+unofficial
The Null Hypothesis 0.4b
Thu May 23 14:35:59 2024
 
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HunterSeeker

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Dang. This is way better than the other game it's inspired from. It looks like I came across a bug where if you piss Jean off, none of her optional events trigger anymore even when you make up with her.
 
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ShinyBoots1993

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RandomNumber said:
And what the fuck was wrong with "Oracle, Batgirl, and Spoiler"? Who thinks "Batgirl, Batgirl, and Batgirl" is an improvement?
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I don't remember what issue it was but they actually make a joke about this. It's not funny. Since acknowledging a problem isn't the same as fixing the problem.

RandomNumber said:
Green Lanterns
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Until they brought back all the old ones and now we got like 5 human Lanterns and a squirrel.

Tahaelhour1 said:
this whole discussion is proof of how garbage the western comics model is. if you wanna go read a manga, you look up the name and go to chapter 1. once the author is done, the story and the world is done. No 70 authors on one character fighting for everyone's attention for 60 years.

Not that good stuff can't come out of this model, but it inherently breeds stagnation. you will die and superman will be constantly retold, but once demon slayer is over, it's over.
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Naruto and One Piece would like to have a word with you.

acowasto said:
Hard to not agree about drawing and animations being nicely done, as they really are. My only complain here, or rather wish, would be to have more accurate facial expressions and, as already someone stated, changing of those into more lewd with each orgasm as MC is fucking thier brains out.
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It's on the to-do list.

acowasto said:
And also a bit more accurate movements, yet not too much.
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We're trying. Though there's only so much we can do with live 2D.


acowasto said:
Still, having Laura doing blowjob while movement are out of sync is quite hilarious.
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This being an example of it being hard to work with lol

acowasto said:
And there would be quite a lot more cum on them, but... it simply disappeared from various body parts when they got thier clothes back on.
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We're working on this.
 
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Conrad-N7

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ShinyBoots1993 said:
I don't remember what issue it was but they actually make a joke about this. It's not funny. Since acknowledging a problem isn't the same as fixing the problem.


Until they brought back all the old ones and now we got like 5 human Lanterns and a squirrel.


Naruto and One Piece would like to have a word with you.


It's on the to-do list.


We're trying. Though there's only so much we can do with live 2D.



This being an example of it being hard to work with lol


We're working on this.
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yall doing a good job. This isnt a full 1.0 chapter yet so such things can still be fixed on the way... however close it is possible
 
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sleepingkirby

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Niki Boxcer said:
Mac version crashes on startup

Code: 
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "game/characters/Charles/displayables/chair.rpy", line 57, in <module>
Exception: Could not load Live2D. b'/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/MacOS/libLive2DCubismCore.dylib' was not found.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "characters/Charles/displayables/chair.rpyc", line 57, in script
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/ast.py", line 922, in execute
    img = renpy.python.py_eval_bytecode(self.code.bytecode)
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/python.py", line 1202, in py_eval_bytecode
    return eval(bytecode, globals, locals)
  File "game/characters/Charles/displayables/chair.rpy", line 57, in <module>
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 591, in __init__
    common = self.common
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 542, in common
    return self.create_common()
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 530, in create_common
    rv = Live2DCommon(self.filename, self.default_fade)
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 188, in __init__
    init()
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 95, in init
    onetime_init()
  File "/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/Resources/autorun/renpy/gl2/live2d.py", line 68, in onetime_init
    raise Exception("Could not load Live2D. {} was not found.".format(dll))
Exception: Could not load Live2D. b'/private/var/folders/4g/7myybq7j0tsd1pm6rwy4w7rw0000gp/T/AppTranslocation/E07556A3-CD3B-41E5-A48B-566273B188C7/d/TheNullHypothesis.app/Contents/MacOS/libLive2DCubismCore.dylib' was not found.

macOS-10.14.6-x86_64-i386-64bit x86_64
Ren'Py 8.3.0.24022002+unofficial
The Null Hypothesis 0.4b
Thu May 23 14:35:59 2024
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Am I reading that right? Are you still on Mojave?
I'm not an expert, but the last time I saw this, the error message was misleading/wrong. It turns out that the libLive2DCubismCore.dylib included was built for newer mac versions or something like that.
 
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Nast33

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One suggestion: have the 'asking for consent' dialogue when selecting any of the sex options being asked once, and after they agree once it's assumed they are comfortable with it.

Each time we re-select a bunch of options and keep asking about it, it breaks the flow - like, we've done it 5 times over the last few days, do we still need to confirm it's fine to do cunnilingus, grabbing their tits or sucking on some nips? Once they have enough trust and agree once, dispose of the dialogue for any options they're fine with.

If you rework the system to have them refuse every once in awhile I can see asking them about it as 'are you in the mood for it now?' - but they never refuse after doing it once, so get rid of that annoyance.
 
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Tahaelhour1

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Terry Zimmerman said:
I disagree with almost everything you said. A lot of the best stories about this characters came (in my opinion) 60/70/80 years after their creation by a variate of different people. You want goofy batman? You got it! theres Adam Wests batman. You want dark batman? Watch the Nolan or Snyder movies. What about Dragon Ball? Can I jump straight into Z? or Super? Sure as hell I did, didnt watch a single original dragon ball episode.
edit: Maybe we should stay on topic. Im gonna shut up now.
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I mean sure, maybe. but in manga that same thing happens and instead of being the corpse of a character being played with by a corporation, it's a bunch of actual human beings doing the interpretations, codifying the genre and twisting it around. And even in comics, you wanna have evil superman, you can, jut don't call him superman, call em homelander or omniman, you wanna have gay superman, same thing, not that any of this bothers me really I just find it funny when people get so mad about it. it's just incredibly difficult to make it as an artist if you don't piggyback off already existing IPs.
 
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Guys I've a problem, in winter chapter I got a messege from Rogue and she asked if I can train with her in DR, then I came there to train with her to progress through her story and when she asked me how I'm doing mentally the further conversation frozen, I can't even skip it, any tips about how to solve it??
 
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Faqovich

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Is it possible to make Jean and Rogue be friends? 20 days calling them both - nothing. 10 days to mall - nothing
 
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biggiemac

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why are people so defensive? Have you even played the other games? Any sane person would be able to see there are clearly some similarities here...the fact that people became ultra-defensive when all I did was to just lay out some facts just speaks for itself.

It is indisputable that there are similarities, period. It is also undisputable that there are controversies or discussions about this, period. Who's right and who's wrong, I don't know. I don't have the facts, so I won't speculate.

What I do know is that this is a really great game, and I would love for the developers to work out any differences so that the development of this game can continue.
 
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Bekai7

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Nast33 said:
One suggestion: have the 'asking for consent' dialogue when selecting any of the sex options being asked once, and after they agree once it's assumed they are comfortable with it.

Each time we re-select a bunch of options and keep asking about it, it breaks the flow - like, we've done it 5 times over the last few days, do we still need to confirm it's fine to do cunnilingus, grabbing their tits or sucking on some nips? Once they have enough trust and agree once, dispose of the dialogue for any options they're fine with.

If you rework the system to have them refuse every once in awhile I can see asking them about it as 'are you in the mood for it now?' - but they never refuse after doing it once, so get rid of that annoyance.
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they said they are gonna work on it
 
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Dazzier31

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biggiemac said:
why are people so defensive? Have you even played the other games? Any sane person would be able to see there are clearly some similarities here...the fact that people became ultra-defensive when all I did was to just lay out some facts just speaks for itself.

It is indisputable that there are similarities, period. It is also undisputable that there are controversies or discussions about this, period. Who's right and who's wrong, I don't know. I don't have the facts, so I won't speculate.

What I do know is that this is a really great game, and I would love for the developers to work out any differences so that the development of this game can continue.
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I think the issue with your comment was the word "plagiarised", it has such a negative connotation that it's hard for people to take the rest of the comment in good faith.

And I don't know where you got the idea that there were differences between the developers that were stopping the game but rest assured, they are doing fine and working on it day in and day out.
 
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