Ren'Py The Null Hypothesis [v0.7b] [Ron Chon]

[doizoid.]

Will there be any sort of 'list of interactions' so that we can make sure we saw all the available content/dialogues.

Like in RLE I didn't know until maybe my 10th playthrough that I could deny sex to the gals and then make them beg (if they have high lust and high submission) and if you force them to swallow cum - on the 4th consecutive time they will burp and say that their stomach and full and if you try to cum in their mouth - they will again say that they are already full. There are so many other hot/funny interactions like this but I only discovered them by mistake - cuz there's no guide. For games like these (trainer - I know there's more genre in null hypothesis but I think trainer is a big aspect) - these interactions are the best part so I don't wanna miss any of these moments.

I know it's not like RLE, so sorry for comparing - but that's the only X-Men trainer game I've played.

 

[Rapeseed]

Bioware never made good on the branching stories anyway. The writing teams and direction would change between installments. [Redacted: a long winded and unhinged rant about storytelling, immersive sims, corporate culture, advertisement, etc.]

Go on, I've got a ton to say myself - let's see your arguments.

 

[Buttholder]

Yes, yes it is. A lot of writers went around retconning rape into a lot of female heroes' backstories and portraying some as underaged prostitutes. Heck the most recent New Mutants movie injected child molestation by slenderman looking motherfuckers into Magik's origin story when her captor was just an emotionally hostile demon in the comic.

Yeah, Catwoman was retconned by Frank Miller (I think) into having been a prostitute before being a catburgler, Kevin Smith had the Black Cat's badassitude, overt sexuality and take-no-shit attitude be a direct result of a sexual assault, Rogue was implied to have been assaulted the first time the X-Men visited Genosha, there's a long and horrible history of this shit going on. Ignoring the infamous Ms. Marvel (Carol) story (the lunacy starts in Avengers #197 if you're looking for breakdowns of that particular saga, be warned, it's amazingly weird and gross), Magik's backstory gets real dark, real quick.

For those unaware, Illyana comes into the X-Men as a six year-old and, while she's out in the mansion's grounds, a demon literally steps out of the shadows and says 'hey, come with me and I'll take you to a wonderful place of magic where you'll be loved and adored above all else' and gives her a pretty necklace saying she'll be a queen and can have everything she wants. And she goes with him and, to all intents and purposes, vanishes off the face of the earth. She comes back from this relatively quickly, but because she's been in the demon realm of Limbo (one part of the actual, literal Hell) where time flows differently, from her perspective, it's been about a decade, so she's now 16, her personality has changed, going from a sweet little girl to a sullen, angry and confrontational teen and, most importantly of all, does not want to talk about what she was doing and what was done to her for the last decade.

Now, at the time this story was released, it was around the time of stuff like the Satanic Panic and the McMartin Preschool trial (both of those and Illyana's vanishing/return all happened around the same time IRL). While I've never seen any official indication that the story was influenced by the news, it'd hardly be surprising. Another thing to remember is that, at the very least, the Comics Code Authority was very much in effect at the time, and it seriously limited the kinds of things that could and couldn't be portrayed in comics at the time. In more recent years, Magik's likened her time in Limbo as a child to actual abuse, but obviously, they couldn't outright say it at the time. But, come on, a stranger tells a small child they've got special treats for them and they vanish into the shadows, never to be seen again? That's the very definition of Stranger Danger as every kid in the 80s was taught. You don't have to read that far between the lines to see what they were possibly suggesting.

 

[aj1]

You the player can cheat but as I said, don't get caught.

Ahem, i defer to Null's lawyer....

 

[ShinyBoots1993]

Will we be unable to make bisexual girls have threesomes? I'm into that, I enjoy boundaries.

Yes. Though the vast majority will most likely be bisexual. We're only enforcing canon sexuality. There are plenty of lesbians that will not be in the game.

I really hope I can be protective of her too

Eventually, and I promise it will be adorable.

I don't think anyone sane has unrealistic expectations of how spread out the game's story will be by the end.

See using the word "sane" was your first mistake.

Will there be any sort of 'list of interactions' so that we can make sure we saw all the available content/dialogues.

I don't believe we plan on having anything be kept too secretive. At least not in the example you gave.

We will have unlockable content for you completionists out there.

Catwoman was retconned by Frank Miller (I think)

Yep it was Frank Miller.

Though thankfully after one of the Crisis events(I don't remember which because there's like a dozen of them) events shifted slightly to her leaving the brothel before losing her virginity to prostitution. There was a story of her going back and rescuing a friend who she left behind.

so she's now 16

Yeah, any presence in this game is having that bumped up to 18.

You don't have to read that far between the lines to see what they were possibly suggesting.

The thing is that there is no in-between the lines. There was a mini-series that came out that detailed her entire experience. I read it like a week or so ago. There wasn't any sexual abuse. Any modern comments aren't retcons, they're contradictions.

RETroactive CONtinuity adds information previously unseen. We saw what happened to her. Any further publications saying sex stuff was involved is an alternate universe, such as the young mutants movie, or someone failing to fact-check with both instances just trying to abuse Illyana for no reason other than thinking it makes her story deeper at best, edgy at worst.

Rogue was implied to have been assaulted the first time the X-Men visited Genosha

Yeah, another mini-series focused on Gambit and Rogue's relationship was released awhile back and clarified that this didn't happen. Rogue lost her virginity to Gambit and it's a memory she mostly looks back upon fondly.

Ahem, i defer to Null's lawyer....

I was not expecting this to be Reggae. Regardless I'm going to annoy the writer into allowing "It wasn't me" to be an excuse

 

[Buttholder]

RETroactive CONtinuity adds information previously unseen. We saw what happened to her. Any further publications saying sex stuff was involved is an alternate universe, such as the young mutants movie, or someone failing to fact-check with both instances just trying to abuse Illyana for no reason other than thinking it makes her story deeper at best, edgy at worst.


Yeah, another mini-series focused on Gambit and Rogue's relationship was released awhile back and clarified that this didn't happen. Rogue lost her virginity to Gambit and it's a memory she mostly looks back upon fondly.

Oh yeah, they've retconned the hell out of most of that stuff, absolutely for the better, but before any of those happened, the implications were pretty obvious.

Though, funny fact, one of the times the Sentry died (it's happened a lot), they had a funeral for him and Rogue mentioned that he'd been the first person who could touch her without issue and he was her first. But the Sentry is probably the best and worst example of what you can do with the power of retroactive continuity

 

[Crichton]

"[lie] Nah that was Mystique disguised as a clone of my twin step-brother from another dimension. I was dead at the time btw."

Edit: "[lie] Pretty fucked up of you to not notice I died, that hurts!" Is there a mutant gullible enough to believe that? Xavier's school doesn't raise many dummies, does it?

 

[Rapeseed]

Eventually, and I promise it will be adorable.

I'll take you up on that, it better be the cutest thing in the world or I'll leak all the fan-fics you've done about Nightcrawler.

We will have unlockable content for you completionists out there.

Can you give an example.

Yeah, any presence in this game is having that bumped up to 18.

I don't know, Shiny. Seems rather silly to not be completely degenerative and have underage girls in a sexual setting. I mean, Marvel does it all the fucking time apparently so why not?
I'll never do the Reddit thing, but this is obviously not a real complaint.

I was not expecting this to be Reggae. Regardless I'm going to annoy the writer into allowing "It wasn't me" to be an excuse

Make sure she presents more than sufficient proof while being denied.

 

[SauceMixer]

Not every girl is bi and there are girls who simply don't like each other enough to even consider it.

aww, there goes my mix-n-match bingo board.

But ultimately it's all about consent. Girls are mostly fine if you tell them about your interest in another girl. Though having a bunch of hookup sex behind their back is going to lead to hurt feelings.

consent, hottest shit ever (follow closely by bdsm)

This is a world where giant robots hunt down mutants on the daily.

Sentinel flashback intensified

That depends on your definition of ugly. I know plenty of chicks who have a thing for the Creature of the Black Lagoon.

Can I have their numbers or something? .....Asking for a friend.

 

[doizoid.]

I don't know, Shiny. Seems rather silly to not be completely degenerative and have underage girls in a sexual setting. I mean, Marvel does it all the fucking time apparently so why not?
I'll never do the Reddit thing, but this is obviously not a real complaint.

Eventhough some games fly under the rader, patreon banned multiple creators whose games had taboo fetishes - and that includes underage gals. The most recent example is 'But I'm the bad guy' (It's an amazing game btw - try it out. Crichton especially cuz he likes home wrecking/netori)

 

[Rapeseed]

Eventhough some games fly under the rader, patreon banned multiple creators whose games had taboo fetishes - and that includes underage gals. The most recent example is 'But I'm the bad guy' (It's an amazing game btw - try it out. Crichton especially cuz he likes home wrecking/netori)

Does Patreon ban any underage presentation or is it especifically sexualization of underaged characters?

Also, again, I wasn't being really serious. I know why they shouldn't put children or teenagers in the game, I'd be against it myself since I'm rather fond of the age of the characters being presented in the game - young adults are more practical, more understanding and lead to more natural changes in behaviour.
That being said, some of those young adults are woman, so... thankfully, they are coded a certain way - 'cause real women can be tricky to understand, let me tell ya'

 

[Crichton]

Eventhough some games fly under the rader, patreon banned multiple creators whose games had taboo fetishes - and that includes underage gals. The most recent example is 'But I'm the bad guy' (It's an amazing game btw - try it out. Crichton especially cuz he likes home wrecking/netori)

The "reddit thing" Seed mentioned was an indication of sarcasm. We don't cotton to those things in this thread. Consent is a must and our standards are better than Marvel's editors apparently.

 

[Buttholder]

Can I have their numbers or something? .....Asking for a friend.

Uh-huh, random question, how many digits does your friend have and are they seperated from each other?

 

[doizoid.]

The "reddit thing" Seed mentioned was an indication of sarcasm. We don't cotton to those things in this thread. Consent is a must and our standards are better than Marvel's editors apparently.

My bad - english isn't my first language.
Btw, if this story took place in Europe (especially in Germany) - 16 would have been perfectly legal (even 14 is legal). It's really crazy to think how low the age of consent is in Europe. I come from a third world country and even here the age of consent is 18

PS - You can skip the underage content in the game that I mentioned - so you can play it safely

 

[Rapeseed]

My bad - english isn't my first language.
Btw, if this story took place in Europe (especially in Germany) - 16 would have been perfectly legal (even 14 is legal). It's really crazy to think how low the age of consent is in Europe. I come from a third world country and even here the age of consent is 18

PS - You can skip the underage content in the game that I mentioned - so you can play it safely

In Brazil it's also legal to have a 14 year old bride. I don't agree with it, I don't think 14 year olds should be given like that - they don't have the mental capacity nor the physical threshold to maintain what a man who gets with 14 year old girls wants. But it's so incredibly rare that it's more fitting to a fairy tale - I've had teachers not knowing it, and I almost gaslighted myself since no one was willing to do the research.
But then a girl (I'm not kidding, an actual girl) one day said the urethra and vagina were the same thing - as an example of the people you deal with in low-class schools - and the smartest teacher we had talked to me about it, sharing the sentiment of dissaproval over it.

At least there's some restritions, like needing parent approval, and up to a certain age you might as well have the entire society trying to kill you - but you see that in the more rural parts of the country. I've heard about it since moving to the exterior of Minas Gerais. This cute teen's that came to the place I work at was born out of that olden times relationship.

 

[doizoid.]

In Brazil it's also legal to have a 14 year old bride. I don't agree with it, I don't think 14 year olds should be given like that - they don't have the mental capacity nor the physical threshold to maintain what a man who gets with 14 year old girls wants. But it's so incredibly rare that it's more fitting to a fairy tale - I've had teachers not knowing it, and I almost gaslighted myself since no one was willing to do the research.
But then a girl (I'm not kidding, an actual girl) one day said the urethra and vagina were the same thing - as an example of the people you deal with in low-class schools - and the smartest teacher we had talked to me about it, sharing the sentiment of dissaproval over it.

At least there's some restritions, like needing parent approval, and up to a certain age you might as well have the entire society trying to kill you - but you see that in the more rural parts of the country. I've heard about it since moving to the exterior of Minas Gerais. This cute teen's that came to the place I work at was born out of that olden times relationship.

It's the same thing in my country but the difference is that it's not that rare - it's not a common thing but prevalent enough that everyone knows about it. Although it's illegal - parents marry off their kids before they are 18. My friend's cousin was married off to a 35 yr old dude and at that time she had just turned 15 - and people even celebrate it, threw a big fat wedding party. There's very few people who found this problematic (but I'm from a very small town - so maybe that's why people don't have any problem accepting child marriage)

The absurdity of this conversation just dawned on me - we are talking about child marriage in am X-Men porn game thread XD

 

[Crichton]

I am looking forward to the next page where we never mention this ever again.

 

[Rapeseed]

Mention what? No one's talking about anything, matter of fact, dude; this is just a common western porn vidya thread.

 

[Buttholder]

Hey, you know what would really suck?

Sitting by Colossus at the beach

 

[Crichton]

Hey, you know what would really suck?
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Sitting by Colossus at the beach

It looks like they're in the desert! Is he metal all the way through? Does he get hot?